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6800k vs 6850k

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XViper

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My computer keeps dropping the USB ports. Motherboard might be on it's way out. Asus Rampage IV BE.

Looking to upgrade. I'm just wondering if it is worth it to go to a 6800k or a 6850k. Price is about 200 dollars more for the 6850k. The biggest difference is the PCI Lanes. How does more PCI Lanes benefit? I figure the extra cash could go into a M.2 drive. Currently running only a single GTX 1080. Thanks!
 
On a single card it doesn't. Even in multi gpu setups those extra PCIe lanes have small gains, if any. If you've got money to burn sure get the 6850k for those extra lanes.

BUT on the same note you're not going to see much benefit going from an oc'ed 4930k to a 6800k. That asus doesn't have any warranty or you got the upgrade bug?
 
That's the issue. I can ask if there's still warranty left on it.

I honestly didn't want to upgrade. The board is still very expensive online.
 
Are the issues you are having limited to the USB ports? You can always get a PCI-E USB card to add your own ports, if that is all you need. I've worked on a number of boards where the LAN and/or USB ports failed (usually because of tards tripping or tugging on cables), and in every case I simply replaced the broken ports with a PCI-E based equivalent. Really no need to replace the whole board if there are no other issues. You could even use the opportunity to upgrade to USB 3.1.

As far as lanes (CPU based PCI-E Lanes, not from PCH), a 6800K has 28 which is still enough to do 2-way SLI on almost any board. Some boards, like the EVGA X99-FTW that I'm running can even do 3-way SLI with only 28 lanes.
 
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It's just a crazy irregularity. I did add the other PCI-E USB card but it still causes issues. Restarting brings some USB's back and another USB port goes out and ones that deemed not working appear to be working again. Also I get static over the USB headset as well. It sometimes comes and goes away after playing with the ports etc. It's like a grounding issue but I don't see how that would develop over time. I ensured the screws were fastened properly as well.
 
Grounding issues can develop over time in lead free solder due to something called "tin whiskers". The tin in the solder will actually migrate into tiny hair like structures sometimes, causing intermittent shorts or voltage drops if they start to bridge the gap between two conductors.
 
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It's just a crazy irregularity. I did add the other PCI-E USB card but it still causes issues. Restarting brings some USB's back and another USB port goes out and ones that deemed not working appear to be working again. Also I get static over the USB headset as well. It sometimes comes and goes away after playing with the ports etc. It's like a grounding issue but I don't see how that would develop over time. I ensured the screws were fastened properly as well.
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This sounds exactly like my 2010 Mac Pro, which is an old X58 implementation I think. I keep watching for Apple to do something new with the line, b/c no way I'm paying full price for the outdated model they are selling today.
 
the extra cache will help a little, in CPU limited games. Some online games, such as Battlefield, usually benefit from the extra cores.

Also, if you do any video processing/editing work: those extra cores will give you large performance gains. Even if we are talking about handbrake so that you can upload game captures to youtube. Your handbrake times will be reduced a lot.
 
I spoke to ASUS Tech support. There may be a port that probably overloaded and then is now causing all of the ports to go haywire. RMA process
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Grounding issues can develop over time in lead free solder due to something called "tin whiskers". The tin in the solder will actually migrate into tiny hair like structures sometimes, causing intermittent shorts or voltage drops if they start to bridge the gap between two conductors.
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Luckily, it's actually still under warranty. But I'm gonna switch it to a new board anyway. I do some video editing and my main work drives are on the RAID. If I buy a different board, will the RAID work as well? It's using the software raid on this board.

Do I have to maybe stick with an Asus board or will any board work to get the RAID back?

The computer doesn't start up anymore. Keeps throwing 9c code and sometimes 0d. There are no usb devices hooked up.
 
XViper said:
I spoke to ASUS Tech support. There may be a port that probably overloaded and then is now causing all of the ports to go haywire. RMA process


Luckily, it's actually still under warranty. But I'm gonna switch it to a new board anyway. I do some video editing and my main work drives are on the RAID. If I buy a different board, will the RAID work as well? It's using the software raid on this board.

Do I have to maybe stick with an Asus board or will any board work to get the RAID back?

The computer doesn't start up anymore. Keeps throwing 9c code and sometimes 0d. There are no usb devices hooked up.
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To keep your RAID intact, you'll have to use a board with the same RAID chip. Next time use a dedicated RAID card or create bare-metal backups with software that would also permit recovering onto dissimilar hardware, such as Acronis Backup Advanced ($119). Acronis calls it "Universal Restore," and I can attest to it's awesomeness.

I suggest you consider the 6850K if you can afford the processor. I own the 6800K and I've spent dozens of hours trying to find a motherboard that doesn't shut off or downclock all of the PCI-E slots because of the 28-lane CPU. Most of the X99 boards can take the 6850K no problem, and as a result you can spend less on the motherboard and use it towards the CPU. Although try to get a board that has been found to use high quality components to handle the stress of overclocking the more expensive processor (its why some boards are over $400)

Here is the new thread I just posted today asking for some opinion on the last 3 boards my research has led me to. All I wanted to do was be able to add 2 more devices into the slots aside from the GPU. The most annoying example are the new Gigabyte GA-X99-Ultra Gaming and GA-X99-Phoenix SLI motherboards. With those two, I cannot use ANY other slot except for ONE and that one would force the first PCI-E slot down to x8, while using the 6800K 28-lane CPU.
 
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Thanks! I'm going to actually hold off on the upgrade just because I spent all the funds upgrading my monitor and video card.
 
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