6800gs or x850xt?

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Just wondering because i need to get a graphics card when i get the cash and i was
looking on newegg and saw that the x850xt was only $209.


-TopGun
 
I'd go x850xt if it were me. Its a fast card and a good oc'er. Yes the 6-series has SM3, and the benifits (of lack of) have been well documented all over the net by now; I'm not trying to start yet one more debate about that.

The 6800 was a great value when ATi refused to lower prices a while back, but at $200-ish right now I think it's the better deal.

Just my $.02
 
Thanks for the replies guys , gonna go with the x850xt when or if i sell my ps2 or get
some cash together.
 
I made this same thread a while back. I ended up getting the X850XT and I couldn't be happier. Sure, it doesn't have all the latest bells and whistles, but it will do me just fine until all the new DX10 cards and games come out.

Honestly, you'll like either card I am sure. I got mine from Microcenter.com, they had a deal for $199 after rebate. Might still be going if you check it out...
 
Get the X850XT - faster, and more mature, and you will not miss SM 3_0 at all for quite some time IMO. Then when DX10 is mainstream upgrade again for both SM 3_0 and DX10 class.
 
I agree, when I got my 6800GS the price of an 850XT was something around 300

if theyre the same price now... go ATi
 
umm you will miss SM 3.0 sir. If you are going with the 850 cuz it is AGP the get a 6800gs.Dont get an older card for the same dough. If you think bells and whistles doesn't matter it because you don't have any.
 
6800GS. Shader model 3, when oced its at 6800 Ultra speed, and it scores more than X850 in 3DMark 2006 because it has SM3.0, whereas the ATI card doesnt.
 
x850xt, the SM3 on the 6800's are a mute point. They're not quick enough to utilize it effectively. I've owned both a 6800GT at ultra speeds and a x800xt at x850xt speeds.

x850xt hands down.
 
rmed64 said:
6800GS. Shader model 3, when oced its at 6800 Ultra speed, and it scores more than X850 in 3DMark 2006 because it has SM3.0, whereas the ATI card doesnt.
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so its faster in a benchmarking tool but not in games... wow thats a great argument for the 6800 :p
 
rmed64 said:
6800GS. Shader model 3, when oced its at 6800 Ultra speed, and it scores more than X850 in 3DMark 2006 because it has SM3.0, whereas the ATI card doesnt.
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Certainly true, my x800xtpe scored very poorly. But really did make my old system much better at gaming - still with the latest games I seem to be back at 1024 x 768. I need a new system - wish I knew how quickly this DX 10 will actually arrive with supported games.
 
I wouldn't use 3dmark06 for comparing the cards. Actually I wouldn't use any 3dmark for comparing cards.
 
Depends on what games you play imo.

Oblivion will render HDR on SM 3 cards only. SM 2 gets bloom.

That would be a large factor in my decision, but I can't speak for you.

I'd rather play with a lower resolution and get ALL the bells and whistles.
 
Unfortunately those cards aren't really fast enough to make use of HDR at higher res levels (which is the only thing you'll get over the x850xt with the sm3.0 6800gs), so I'd go for the x850xt. No other benefit to sm3.0 as the x850 will be able to render everything looping back and at the same speed (if not higher) as the 6800gs due to it's superior shader speed.
 
slickmitch said:
umm you will miss SM 3.0 sir. If you are going with the 850 cuz it is AGP the get a 6800gs.Dont get an older card for the same dough. If you think bells and whistles doesn't matter it because you don't have any.
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its not like nvidia complies with sm3.

the x850 is just a better card than the 6800. just the way it is.
 
TopGun said:
Just wondering because i need to get a graphics card when i get the cash and i was
looking on newegg and saw that the x850xt was only $209.


-TopGun
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Well... this discussion is going to take a radical turn here as soon as I get a response from this question:

Topgun, are you looking at an AGP or PCIe card for the upgrade?

Judging from your system in your spec... I would say AGP...

THEREFORE... there is no x850XT for $209 on newegg, only PCIe cards... there arent any x850XT's for sale on newegg in AGP, hell not even x850 pros...

So if you are looking for an AGP upgrade... It looks like you will be going with a 6800GS just by default.
 
BLiTzKRiEG said:
So if you are looking for an AGP upgrade... It looks like you will be going with a 6800GS just by default.
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So the only place he could buy one would be the Egg?
 
Earp Child said:
So the only place he could buy one would be the Egg?
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I never said about where he had to buy it... but pricewatch, the cheapest is $389 for an x850XT AGP...

http://www.pricewatch.com/prc.aspx?i=37&a=231157

and from pricegrabber: $299

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_attrib.php?page_id=5&form_keyword=x850+XT+agp&rd=1


but the fact he would be saving $80-$100+ is more than enough influence for me.


I was just pointing out the fact that there werent any x850XT AGP cards on newegg and that he was looking at cards for a different slot.
 
bobzdar said:
Unfortunately those cards aren't really fast enough to make use of HDR at higher res levels (which is the only thing you'll get over the x850xt with the sm3.0 6800gs), so I'd go for the x850xt. No other benefit to sm3.0 as the x850 will be able to render everything looping back and at the same speed (if not higher) as the 6800gs due to it's superior shader speed.
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You dont get these cards to play at 1600x1200
You get them for 1024x768 or maybe 1280 res
I get HDR and can run it nicely in Lost Coast and Rainbow Six Lockdown demo.

If getting a AGP card, go with whichever you want. If PCIE, 6800GS no doubt. I get X850XT 3Dmark 2005 scores AND have SM3.0
 
6800GS because you can OC it to well beyond 500/1360 (which I have mine) Plus yo9u can run SLI with 2 at that speed or faster :p
 
6800GS because you can OC it to well beyond 500/1360 (which I have mine)

1360 is not a typical mem OC for a 6800GS and X850XT's can also be overclocked

Plus yo9u can run SLI with 2 at that speed or faster :p

Three letters for you - A,G and P


Having said that, in AGP flavour an X850XT is too pricey. I had a 6800GT and it was fine, so I'd recommend the GS.
 
Sorry guys probably shoulda stated this , I got a socket 754 T-Force 6100 with pci-e
awaiting a pci-e card in its box. So ya basically im looking for the best card between 150 and 200 and they seemed the best , But idk what would be better for that price range if there is anything else.




-TopGun
 
i dunno id hav to go for the 6800GS since its only $159 after rebates on the 'egg :p
 
x850xt no question...i only wish i got one instead of a 7800gt....argh! the 6800gs at 200 is a good deal, but the x850xt is a better deal. no, it has no sm3 blah blah. it's a faster card in almost all games. later on, the 6800gs may be too slow to run games in sm3 mode anyway.
 
johnnq said:
x850xt no question...i only wish i got one instead of a 7800gt....argh! the 6800gs at 200 is a good deal, but the x850xt is a better deal. no, it has no sm3 blah blah. it's a faster card in almost all games. later on, the 6800gs may be too slow to run games in sm3 mode anyway.
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Exactly!
Its taking an old card, slapping some new features on it and selling it.. I mean, dont get me wrong, the 6800gs is a good card.. but personally, I think its a low end card with some new shiney's on it to make it sell..
 
6800GS is by far the better stock and OC card, performance is almost no difference with the human eye (68.9 to 69.2 might as well be the same for all you can tell). The reason I like the 6800 is the company Nvidia. Enless ATI has seriously changed there driver updates are a yearly event.

The 850 is a good OCer, and since the GS is comming with faster memory and a simular core to the 7800GT I would expect OCs to at least GTX speed, which is far and away faster than the 850. If you get an ATI other than the X1900 XTX .. Hope you don't play FEAR. :)
 
Brantoc said:
6800GS is by far the better stock and OC card, performance is almost no difference with the human eye (68.9 to 69.2 might as well be the same for all you can tell). The reason I like the 6800 is the company Nvidia. Enless ATI has seriously changed there driver updates are a yearly event.

The 850 is a good OCer, and since the GS is comming with faster memory and a simular core to the 7800GT I would expect OCs to at least GTX speed, which is far and away faster than the 850. If you get an ATI other than the X1900 XTX .. Hope you don't play FEAR. :)
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lmao, 13 driver releases last year (that's more than once a month), way more than nvidia fwiw...
 
Brantoc said:
6800GS is by far the better stock and OC card, performance is almost no difference with the human eye (68.9 to 69.2 might as well be the same for all you can tell). The reason I like the 6800 is the company Nvidia. Enless ATI has seriously changed there driver updates are a yearly event.

The 850 is a good OCer, and since the GS is comming with faster memory and a simular core to the 7800GT I would expect OCs to at least GTX speed, which is far and away faster than the 850. If you get an ATI other than the X1900 XTX .. Hope you don't play FEAR. :)
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Firstly, the 6800gs is not the better stock card, nor is it OC'd, the x850xt will be faster in both circumstances. ATI releases drivers monthly. The 6800gs has NO chance of running at GTX speeds. Please get your facts straight.
 
x850XT vote here as well. I would imagine the GS competing closely or a little better than the X800XL (because I know that competed with the 6800GT competitively, and I read that the 6800GS is meant as a replacement to the 6800GT). The x850XT has the 16 pipes instead of 12 and superior memory bandwidth, so yea thats my vote.
Jason
 
johnnq said:
x850xt no question...i only wish i got one instead of a 7800gt....argh! the 6800gs at 200 is a good deal, but the x850xt is a better deal. no, it has no sm3 blah blah. it's a faster card in almost all games. later on, the 6800gs may be too slow to run games in sm3 mode anyway.
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6800GS ftw. SM3 and oced ~X850XT speed and cheaper.
 
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