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6800 vs 9800XT

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Mizugori

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okay please tell me that a bba 9800XT 256mb would kill a evga 6800 non-pro with 128 mb of 256-bit memory

long story lol

thanks a lot!
 
well i wouldnt say "any" as that word can imply very many things and can encompass a very broad range of cards

but seriously, 9800XT vs 6800nu would be a very interesting matchup at the least...i have a "hunch" the 6800 would win tho ;)
 
good question, and because i dont know...im just gonna say wait for benchmarks.


but in theory, i suppose the 6800 would win. :eek:
 
yes i will tell you that a 9800xt would kill a 6800ultra.

i lied

heh you just bought your 9800xt? lol
 
i don't think that the 6800 will beat it by that much. Maybe around 10-20 percent in games like far cry. 10 percent can easily be made up by overclocking
 
tranCendenZ said:
Well in terms of 3dmark scores, the 6800 will beat it by over 3000 points stock (6800NU can do 9000+ points stock on a stock A64 CPU - similar score to an X800PRO stock). Yeh the 6800NU would pretty much pwn it heh. Once the SM3.0 v1.2 patch for Far Cry comes out it and the new Nvidia drivers it will take a nice lead there, too.

6800 $299 avail now ;)
http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?Part_Number=128-A8-N343-AX
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Ah...been waiting for this and the x800np. Personally I prefer nVidia's drivers, but ATi has come a long way since the days before (and slightly after) the Cats.Can't wait for the reviews to start appearing on the x800/6800np, so I can finally spend this 300 bux burning a whole in my pocket. Was originally gonna get a 9800pro 256mb Sapphire and flash the XT bios on it, but now I don't need to :)
 
I don't think a regular 6800 has ever been reviewed,( this is excluding the 6800GT), redirect me to a link if I'm wrong.
 
They haven't. That is what I'm waiting for. Will help decide where to throw my money :)
 
so if the 6800 (not pro) would win then why is a 9800XT $140 more? You can buy an evga 6800 for 299.99 from their website and newegg has a bba 9800XT for 439

what's the story here lol? Also, the 9800XT has twice the memory, shouldn't that count for something???
 
Featurewise I would stick with the 6800 series over X800 series, and also if you have noticed that after disabling the Trilinear filteratons optimizations in the X800 seres they perform on par or below the 6800 ultra...
 
If you bought a 9800XT anytime in the past month it was a bad move as many warned people to wait. To buy an 9800XT now is just plain stupid. Same applies to those who bought it just to get the HL2 coupon. Right now, the X800Pro kills the 9800XT and it doesn't cost that much more. Win the 6800np comes out it will more than likely beat it and at a cheaper price. The extra ram is used in some games for super-high rez textures and when you are running high levels of AA(4x+) and AF(8x+) at 1280x1024 and up...I think.

aces170 said:
Featurewise I would stick with the 6800 series over X800 series, and also if you have noticed that after disabling the Trilinear filteratons optimizations in the X800 seres they perform on par or below the 6800 ultra...
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I've yet to see a quality comparison that shows with out a doubt that loss in fps by doing that is worth the gain in visual quality.
 
6800 > 9800XT in most respects.. it does not exactly blow that card out of the water but still.. it does pretty good!
 
The 6800 and 9800XT aren't even in the same generation of cards. Comparing them is kind of useless. The 6800 vs X800 is probably a more evenly matched test.
 
Well they are close to the same price range so there is some use to comparing them. Besides, that's what the parent asked for.
 
I just love the comments like "It would own...it would take a dump on..." etc etc

It would be nice to have some facts to back up your comments.

While the general consensus is that the 6800 would outperfrom the 9800XT, those types of comments are just your opinion and as such...meaningless.

You have a brain....use it. Think before you speak/type.
 
If you play in 1024 X 768 a 9800XT and 6800NU are close in performance.

If you play higher the 6800 usually wins but there are times when the 9800XT hangs close.

Synthetic benchmarks (3dmark) are nice for bragging rights but that is about it.
 
NiViK said:
I just love the comments like "It would own...it would take a dump on..." etc etc

It would be nice to have some facts to back up your comments.

While the general consensus is that the 6800 would outperfrom the 9800XT, those types of comments are just your opinion and as such...meaningless.

You have a brain....use it. Think before you speak/type.
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ah don't give the guy such a hard time, the occasional colorful comment makes me laugh, it would be dull in here if no one ever said anything silly :p
 
my thanks go out to the two minds who said mentioned the uselessness of benchmarks and that fact that your opinions don't help me. to think that you guys filled over a page with almost totally meaningless posts kind of scares me
 
6800 hands down!

And if the 15-20% incress in preformence for you to call it bette than mabey i shouldnt mention that the 6800 is $70-$160 dollars cheaper....
 
I(illa Bee said:
And if the 15-20% incress in preformence for you to call it bette than mabey i shouldnt mention that the 6800 is $70-$160 dollars cheaper....
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i don't understand what the hell that says...for christ's sake take a second and put those words in the right order
 
The performance on the PNY 6800 128mb I got is great for the price. In Far Cry, it's very similar to a X800pro and those tough areas where the X800pro dropped to 25fps was the same on the 6800, so that was nice. There might have been spots where I got 100fps in Far Cry and the 6800 got 60-70, but that's not noticable, it was the minimum fps I was worried about.

The cards good, but at 1600*1200 the 2D is horrible, looks fine a 1280*960, but at 1600 every thing is kind of fuzzy, makes reading this forum hard to do with the reversed out white type and such. I have a monitor at work that's the same as mine at home, just older and about to die and it's razor sharp on a TNT2 and a intel extreme video mobo.

I'll just keep the card if I have to pay a 15% open box fee, but it drives me nuts because it's just down right fuzzy, especially with grays and such, kind of like a blurry jpeg of a desktop.

And besides just fuzzy, it was like the vertical lines were thinner and with the blur on that, very fadded, so like "l", would be thin and weak. I tried taking a screencap of my desktop here at work to blur it in photoshop to try and get it similar, but even with a heavy blur or horizontal moution blur it was still easier to read than how it is on my 6800 at home.


So anyone have on of these and a 21inch CRT at 1600*1200 to give a second opinion?

This guy had the same problem with the same card:
http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=336010&page=1&pp=15
 
TimothyB said:
The performance on the PNY 6800 128mb I got is great for the price. In Far Cry, it's very similar to a X800pro and those tough areas where the X800pro dropped to 25fps was the same on the 6800, so that was nice. There might have been spots where I got 100fps in Far Cry and the 6800 got 60-70, but that's not noticable, it was the minimum fps I was worried about.

The cards good, but at 1600*1200 the 2D is horrible, looks fine a 1280*960, but at 1600 every thing is kind of fuzzy, makes reading this forum hard to do with the reversed out white type and such. I have a monitor at work that's the same as mine at home, just older and about to die and it's razor sharp on a TNT2 and a intel extreme video mobo.

I'll just keep the card if I have to pay a 15% open box fee, but it drives me nuts because it's just down right fuzzy, especially with grays and such, kind of like a blurry jpeg of a desktop.

And besides just fuzzy, it was like the vertical lines were thinner and with the blur on that, very fadded, so like "l", would be thin and weak. I tried taking a screencap of my desktop here at work to blur it in photoshop to try and get it similar, but even with a heavy blur or horizontal moution blur it was still easier to read than how it is on my 6800 at home.


So anyone have on of these and a 21inch CRT at 1600*1200 to give a second opinion?

This guy had the same problem with the same card:
http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=336010&page=1&pp=15
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I have a BFG 6800GT and a Mitsubishi 22" 2070SB Diamondpro monitor.

1600x1200 Looks beautiful over here. It's possible the PNY 6800 Standard isnt quite as good as the BFG 6800GT in 2D.
 
all you utter dumb-ass's think a 9800xt would even be in the same league as ANY 6800... you need to put the pipe down.
I own the Asus 9800xt and the pNy 6800GT... i sold my evga5950 but i do know for a fact that the GT destroys DESTROYS any 8 pipe card on the planet. Ive tested both and have facts to back up whateveritisyouthinkineedproofon.
 
Sepal said:
all you utter dumb-ass's think a 9800xt would even be in the same league as ANY 6800... you need to put the pipe down.
I own the Asus 9800xt and the pNy 6800GT... i sold my evga5950 but i do know for a fact that the GT destroys DESTROYS any 8 pipe card on the planet. Ive tested both and have facts to back up whateveritisyouthinkineedproofon.
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I would never compare a 6800gt to a 9800XT, we're talking about the plain 6800, with 12pipes, which is still 4 pipes more than the 9800, and again, yes, the 6800 is better.
 
oh :eek:

well in that case, all you semi-doom-ahse's think the 98xt is better then then the 12 pipe'd 6800 ... are


still


nuttier then richard simmons diet :p
 
here's another review

6800vs9800xt

roughly 20% more performance. here the 9800xt ABSOLUTELY IS NOT worth it. however if u look at a 9800pro for $190 the choice becomes tougher whether the 6800 is worth the extra $100+.

Then when u look at the highly softmoddable 256bit 9800se's for $145, the desicion becomes even tougher whether the 6800 is worth double the money. its a gamble tho, a 75% chance of a succesful mod i reckon.

but then again, the 6800 is more future proof, with 12pipes SM3.0 and all, and it'll certainly be better for Doom 3 :D . For me, that looks to be the card to get.
 
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