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6600gt water cooling
- Thread starter Teknokid
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Well according to their site, it can
http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/armor_lcs/ve2000bws.asp
http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/armor_lcs/ve2000bws.asp
You could take the cards out, throw them away, and buy a passive cooled card for the same price as two waterblocks, fittings and tubing. You'd also save yourself a lot of time...
I don't mean to sound flippant. But really, the blocks will be worth more than the components.
I don't mean to sound flippant. But really, the blocks will be worth more than the components.
Well, something along the lines of the twinplex isn't a bad idea. If you're in the UK I have a twinplex I don't think I need - might be able to save yourself some money on that.
In my opinion it would not be smart to use anything that couldn't be used on his next graphics card.
But bear in mind his cards are out of date, and need an upgrade. Likely the upgrade would not be SLi, it'd be a single card. So that's 1/2 of whatever you buy not going to any use when he upgrades it.
At the end of the day, if he wants it watercooled full stop... then watercool it.
In my opinion it would not be smart to use anything that couldn't be used on his next graphics card.
But bear in mind his cards are out of date, and need an upgrade. Likely the upgrade would not be SLi, it'd be a single card. So that's 1/2 of whatever you buy not going to any use when he upgrades it.
At the end of the day, if he wants it watercooled full stop... then watercool it.
MCW60's perform the best and cost cheaper than the competitors. However, why WC a 6600? It doesn't put out that much heat. You could go with a passive heat sink and still be fine while saving some cash.
He said he wanted to water cool... A lot of people around here water cool because they want to
Well there's no way you could put a passive heatsink on a 6600GT.
That aside, I agree that 6600GT is a little too dated to deserve a new watercooling system. But he's basically rebuilding an old system to integrate into it...
The problem is new GPU blocks (and CPU blocks) are fairly expensive. Unfortunately watercooling isn't mainstream, so parts like these are marked up pretty high. And with CPUs being more and more energy efficient, it doesn't look like that's going to change.
On the otherhand, GPUs seem to be going the opposite direction. I think we might find in the near future more and more loops that only cool the GPU. Even today, companies like Thermaltake are building GPU only WC systems.
And after all that's put aside, some just like watercooling for pure interest. Surely you couldn't justify the cost effectiveness of $900 phase change systems, but people still do it
That aside, I agree that 6600GT is a little too dated to deserve a new watercooling system. But he's basically rebuilding an old system to integrate into it...
The problem is new GPU blocks (and CPU blocks) are fairly expensive. Unfortunately watercooling isn't mainstream, so parts like these are marked up pretty high. And with CPUs being more and more energy efficient, it doesn't look like that's going to change.
On the otherhand, GPUs seem to be going the opposite direction. I think we might find in the near future more and more loops that only cool the GPU. Even today, companies like Thermaltake are building GPU only WC systems.
And after all that's put aside, some just like watercooling for pure interest. Surely you couldn't justify the cost effectiveness of $900 phase change systems, but people still do it
ill explain properly.
my brother is just an average gamer, his pc is my old one.
he doesnt want to spend much money, but wants to play crysis.
so to save money, i recomended him putting my water cooling in and water cooling to get the best OC possible.
however,
he said he will spend £100 on it
so
does he get a 7600gt
or
athlon dual core (hes on a 3500+ single atm)
so that he can play crysis?
which would give him the best fps boost?
the water kit will still go in for OC...
CHEERS.
my brother is just an average gamer, his pc is my old one.
he doesnt want to spend much money, but wants to play crysis.
so to save money, i recomended him putting my water cooling in and water cooling to get the best OC possible.
however,
he said he will spend £100 on it
so
does he get a 7600gt
or
athlon dual core (hes on a 3500+ single atm)
so that he can play crysis?
which would give him the best fps boost?
the water kit will still go in for OC...
CHEERS.
Aha! More information
His current rig won't run Crysis very well it seems. I'd suggest the cheapest dual core you can get your paws on, and spent the bulk of the cash on the graphics card.
Watercooling though will not save money for him. Top end air cooling is very effective these days on CPUs.
What you can do is try and get second hand watercooling stuff.
Does he have a total budget to work from? I suspect that whole budget might be spent on parts, not watercooling to bring his system up to speed for Crysis.
Since you're talking in pounds I'll assume you're British.
OcUK have a 3800+ dual core for GBP65, you'll get 2.2 out of that, maybe up to 2.5.
And for the best bang for buck I'd suggest an Ati 1950 pro.
Total cost for that is around GBP170 delivered. I really don't think any less than that kind of upgrade is going to be worth it.
Going ATi means he cannot later SLi things. I don't think that's a bad thing though.
Upgrades from that point won't be too bad. As people leave the 939 world and go for other platforms then second hand is likely to be your brothers best friend. In fact it's the best way to do things. I've just looked at eBay and there's 7800 GTXs going for 50 quid. The final price I guess will likely be 70 or 80. But even then that's a real bargain.
Here's a search I've done for you on eBay
For comparing graphics cards I use this chart/
If you still want to go down the watercooling route you'll find you can get second hand parts reasonably cheaply. It may just take patience to wait until you get everything needed together though.
My advice though is to get a total budget from him. Get the upgrades he needs, and then see what's left for watercooling.
Something else that might be wise is not to upgrade the CPU yet. To wait until he really needs the upgrade. Swapping a CPU isn't very time consuming. Just need to make sure you have thermal paste on hand. The longer he holds off on the dual core upgrade then the more beef he'll get for his cash. I did look on ebay but 939 X2s weren't very cheap.
His current rig won't run Crysis very well it seems. I'd suggest the cheapest dual core you can get your paws on, and spent the bulk of the cash on the graphics card.
Watercooling though will not save money for him. Top end air cooling is very effective these days on CPUs.
What you can do is try and get second hand watercooling stuff.
Does he have a total budget to work from? I suspect that whole budget might be spent on parts, not watercooling to bring his system up to speed for Crysis.
Since you're talking in pounds I'll assume you're British.
OcUK have a 3800+ dual core for GBP65, you'll get 2.2 out of that, maybe up to 2.5.
And for the best bang for buck I'd suggest an Ati 1950 pro.
Total cost for that is around GBP170 delivered. I really don't think any less than that kind of upgrade is going to be worth it.
Going ATi means he cannot later SLi things. I don't think that's a bad thing though.
Upgrades from that point won't be too bad. As people leave the 939 world and go for other platforms then second hand is likely to be your brothers best friend. In fact it's the best way to do things. I've just looked at eBay and there's 7800 GTXs going for 50 quid. The final price I guess will likely be 70 or 80. But even then that's a real bargain.
Here's a search I've done for you on eBay
For comparing graphics cards I use this chart/
If you still want to go down the watercooling route you'll find you can get second hand parts reasonably cheaply. It may just take patience to wait until you get everything needed together though.
My advice though is to get a total budget from him. Get the upgrades he needs, and then see what's left for watercooling.
Something else that might be wise is not to upgrade the CPU yet. To wait until he really needs the upgrade. Swapping a CPU isn't very time consuming. Just need to make sure you have thermal paste on hand. The longer he holds off on the dual core upgrade then the more beef he'll get for his cash. I did look on ebay but 939 X2s weren't very cheap.
i used tomshardware charts but i'm not sure what card to get.
my bro is socket 939 with 1gb ram.
what i recomended is spend £90 on a lga 775 mobo nd 2gb of cheap ram, then he take my e6600 and water cooling when i upgrade.
i'm trying to get him to stretch, but for a £100 which would be the best vid card on overclockers.co.uk, theres a nice 7900gs OC KO by evga.
or the 8600gt OC by leadtek?
cheers.
my bro is socket 939 with 1gb ram.
what i recomended is spend £90 on a lga 775 mobo nd 2gb of cheap ram, then he take my e6600 and water cooling when i upgrade.
i'm trying to get him to stretch, but for a £100 which would be the best vid card on overclockers.co.uk, theres a nice 7900gs OC KO by evga.
or the 8600gt OC by leadtek?
cheers.
Well, you've now got as much information as I have...
So really it's up to you what you think is best for him.
I just wouldn't ignore second hand for the graphics card. There's some bargains on eBay and he'd be getting a better card for less money.
Overclockers aren't the best prices, but it's a good place to find what you want. Generally I order from them unless someone else is significantly cheaper. For graphics cards though I think they're pretty much the cheapest around.
How soon would he be getting your e6600? If it's before Crysis comes, then that'll suit him.
So really it's up to you what you think is best for him.
I just wouldn't ignore second hand for the graphics card. There's some bargains on eBay and he'd be getting a better card for less money.
Overclockers aren't the best prices, but it's a good place to find what you want. Generally I order from them unless someone else is significantly cheaper. For graphics cards though I think they're pretty much the cheapest around.
How soon would he be getting your e6600? If it's before Crysis comes, then that'll suit him.
From what I've seen graphics cards either work or they don't. If they're going to pop then they'll pop within a few months.
So if you're buying second hand then you get them pretested
If you do buy one off eBay then make sure you artifact test it using Ati Tool the very minute it arrives, just in case.
So if you're buying second hand then you get them pretested
If you do buy one off eBay then make sure you artifact test it using Ati Tool the very minute it arrives, just in case.
There's an article, I think on Anandtech, that showed at what point the CPU started to cap graphics cards.
Basically as long as your CPU is fast enough then the graphics cards determines how fast a game runs (more or less).
I think it needed an 8800 GTX to start capping high end dual cores.
It'll be different for every game.
Might want to look that one up and see what you think after reading it. It seemed to be saying to me that unless you want to go dual 8800 GTX in SLi, then a 3Mhz dual core was going to be enough for anything.
If he gets your CPU, or he goes for a dual core A64 then it's going to be the graphics card holding him back.
Basically as long as your CPU is fast enough then the graphics cards determines how fast a game runs (more or less).
I think it needed an 8800 GTX to start capping high end dual cores.
It'll be different for every game.
Might want to look that one up and see what you think after reading it. It seemed to be saying to me that unless you want to go dual 8800 GTX in SLi, then a 3Mhz dual core was going to be enough for anything.
If he gets your CPU, or he goes for a dual core A64 then it's going to be the graphics card holding him back.