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6600 or AMD 4600+

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Im sure a lot of you are thinking this is a joke. Anyway, Im assuming the 6600 Conroe is a lot faster... how would the 4600+ fair with 6400?
 
Even in games, conroe being a tad better.. and if overclocked.. it will stomp it.
 
how about this. From the reviews I've seen, an E6400 clocked at 2.13Ghz was about on par with an X-2 5000+ at stock. With an overclock, the E6400 wins hands down by a decent amount
 
yea, im not going to OC... Im just looking to spend about 3-350 on a processor and not sure to go with AMD or conroe.
 
Imma wait this one out myself. A few people seem to be doing so & will just wait until Direct X 10 & Windows Vista hit. Can see a ton of people building there next rig as soon as that drops. The conroes are damn tempting I tell you, but I know how this market is. AMD will come out with something, may or may not be better, but they will. So Im just gonna wait. Supply for the conroes some to be more miss than hit for now as well.

-DarkLegacy
 
If you can afford it, got the E6600.

It is slightly faster than AMD's $800 flagship FX-62, so it will be much faster than an X2 4600+.

An X2 4600+ performs closer to E6300/E6400 levels.
 
harpoon said:
If you can afford it, got the E6600.

It is slightly faster than AMD's $800 flagship FX-62, so it will be much faster than an X2 4600+.

An X2 4600+ performs closer to E6300/E6400 levels.
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Good to know. I was thinking about the Abit AW8 Max for a mobo. Anyone see any problems with this?
 
masshole said:
Good to know. I was thinking about the Abit AW8 Max for a mobo. Anyone see any problems with this?
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Well, it's a 955X board. 955X itself can support conroe, but the board probably doesn't have the right power management spec needed for Conroe. A 965 board would guarantee compatibility.
 
Even better to know, thanks.

I guess I have to pull the trigger onthe P5B.
 
masshole said:
Even better to know, thanks.

I guess I have to pull the trigger onthe P5B.
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Jeez, you guys are impatient.....

WAIT for at least 1 month and you'll be able to find better motherboards, cheaper.
 
-=Antimatter=- said:
Jeez, you guys are impatient.....

WAIT for at least 1 month and you'll be able to find better motherboards, cheaper.
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Well... yes... I am cheap. I want to take advantage of New Eggs no payment until March deal.


I guess I could buy everything there except the mobo and processor. I mean whatever I buy will be outdated in sometime anyway.
 
The only reason I'd suggest the 4600+ is availability. There are no Conroes in stock anywhere, and from the looks of it, there won't be many in the coming weeks.
 
Thats what I was thinking. For my application (gaming and photo editing), I think I would be happy nonetheless. Besides, Im upgrading from a P4 2.4ghz, Nvidia 5900 vid card and an Abit IC-7 mobo. Needless to say, I know I will show a substantial performance increase.

Soo... I think its going to be a nice upgrade anyway.
 
masshole said:
Im sure a lot of you are thinking this is a joke. Anyway, Im assuming the 6600 Conroe is a lot faster... how would the 4600+ fair with 6400?
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Of course... the Conroe is faster, though (and I've said this before) the difference isn't ad amazing as people think. As long as you have a 3.4+ P4 or a comprable AMD cpu then your system won't go from fast to "light speed." As for your situation it's entirely dependent on what you are currently running. If the AMD is a drop in with the other hardware you have and don't have a huge budget then I would stick with the AMD. If you need to get a new board, memory, maybe video card, etc then I would go with the Conroe. No sense in upgrading everything and going with a slower system for the same price. Just my .02.
 
Just read your last post... yea, I would go with the Conroe. But my statment still apllies to other who are thinking aobut upgrading.
 
AMD solution. 250 bucks for a 4600. Intels solution E6600 400 or 500 bucks. 10% difference in the real world. Is the intel solution worth it if you consitter the rediculess prices on the mobos. You'll pay for a AMD system for half the price of a intel. Your not going to tell the difference whatever you go with in the real world. Save your money and get a X2 3800 and OC it to my level and be happy with a 150 buck FX-62.

You just saved about 500 bucks by going AMD congrats.
 
Serge84 said:
AMD solution. 250 bucks for a 4600. Intels solution E6600 400 or 500 bucks. 10% difference in the real world. Is the intel solution worth it if you consitter the rediculess prices on the mobos. You'll pay for a AMD system for half the price of a intel. Your not going to tell the difference whatever you go with in the real world. Save your money and get a X2 3800 and OC it to my level and be happy with a 150 buck FX-62.

You just saved about 500 bucks by going AMD congrats.
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$400 - $500 for an E6600???? Your inflating prices aren't you. ;) Only E6600 I've seen over $400 was a mwave but they are known for crap like that.
 
sparkie34 said:
$400 - $500 for an E6600???? Your inflating prices aren't you. ;) Only E6600 I've seen over $400 was a mwave but they are known for crap like that.
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LOL... not to mention that there are 965 based boards for ~$100. :rolleyes: Don't worry... Serge is just trolling like usual. Wonder if there is an Ignore button here. :D
 
I'd like to get one of the new Conroes too. The problem is I just bought my AMD X2 4200+ and can't really justify it. Though I could upgrade my wifes system with my old/new stuff and buy Conroe E6600 + Mobo + DDR2 but we're talking about $600 - $700 total.

Also I hesitate because we all know this is an interim chip for Intel until they launch thier next chip which should have integrated memory controller. My personal hope is that they will also go with a seperate cache for each core instead of the shared cache they have now.
 
I hear a lot of people saying if you have like an intel 3.0+ or AMD 4000 etc, theres not going to be a major performance increase for the money spent. Im just looking to upgrade because I bought Hitman 2 and its stuttering on my current rig. (it was a sign to upgrade)

Plus I have a grand to blow.
 
masshole said:
I hear a lot of people saying if you have like an intel 3.0+ or AMD 4000 etc, theres not going to be a major performance increase for the money spent. Im just looking to upgrade because I bought Hitman 2 and its stuttering on my current rig. (it was a sign to upgrade)

Plus I have a grand to blow.
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Lol. Come on. Be honest, you don't wanna upgrade because you have to. You wanna upgrade because you got a Grand to blow. Happens to all of us when we have money laying around.

So what do you have now? what processor and video cards... maybe you just need a GFX card upgrade.
 
n19htmare said:
Lol. Come on. Be honest, you don't wanna upgrade because you have to. You wanna upgrade because you got a Grand to blow. Happens to all of us when we have money laying around.

So what do you have now? what processor and video cards... maybe you just need a GFX card upgrade.
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Haha... Im "scratched out" as some guy I arrested for Burglary said to me.

Right now I have an Abit IC-7, 2.4ghz, 2gb of ram and a Chaintech 5900 vid card.

(plus a wd raptor, 120gb hdd sound blaster sound card antec 550 psu etc)
 
Serge84 said:
AMD solution. 250 bucks for a 4600. Intels solution E6600 400 or 500 bucks. 10% difference in the real world. Is the intel solution worth it if you consitter the rediculess prices on the mobos. You'll pay for a AMD system for half the price of a intel. Your not going to tell the difference whatever you go with in the real world. Save your money and get a X2 3800 and OC it to my level and be happy with a 150 buck FX-62.

You just saved about 500 bucks by going AMD congrats.
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Someone is mad that AMD has been put back in its rightful place of "the other cpu" Intel is the best, cry.
 
masshole said:
I hear a lot of people saying if you have like an intel 3.0+ or AMD 4000 etc, theres not going to be a major performance increase for the money spent. Im just looking to upgrade because I bought Hitman 2 and its stuttering on my current rig. (it was a sign to upgrade)

Plus I have a grand to blow.
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IMHO, that should have been if you have FX-55 or 4400+, Intel 3.4GHz or better, then don't upgrade to C2D. Even E6300 kicks the snot out of the 3GHz P4 and Athlon 4000+ or many of the lower end DCs from AMD.
 
Evil Weazel said:
Also I hesitate because we all know this is an interim chip for Intel until they launch thier next chip which should have integrated memory controller. My personal hope is that they will also go with a seperate cache for each core instead of the shared cache they have now.
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All chips are interim chips if you want to look at it this way. Each release is just an interim chip until they release something else. With that logic there's no good time to ever upgrade since new things will just best the old things. At some point you gotta bite the bullet.

And why hope for separate L2? Intel has worked some nice magic with the shared L2. It's definately better (without going into CPU architecture) shared than not atm.
 
The benefits for me changing my motherboard and ram to accomodate a Conroe CPU were minimal. I went for a cheap processor upgrade (X2 4600+). I guess the AMD price cuts have kept my rig AMD based for a while. If I was building a computer from scratch there is only one choice, Intel Conroe. AM2 is a big disappointment, very little performance increase over socket 939. I can't understand why anyone would want to go AM2 rather than Conroe!
 
spicey said:
The benefits for me changing my motherboard and ram to accomodate a Conroe CPU were minimal. I went for a cheap processor upgrade (X2 4600+). I guess the AMD price cuts have kept my rig AMD based for a while. If I was building a computer from scratch there is only one choice, Intel Conroe. AM2 is a big disappointment, very little performance increase over socket 939. I can't understand why anyone would want to go AM2 rather than Conroe!
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AM2 wasn't designed for performance, and it clearly wasn't intended to compete with Core 2. It unified motherboard and system memory manufacturers under DDR2. Conroe is the clear choice for building a new system on the high-end until AMD's new line comes out to attempt real competition. 939 is still as fast as ever, and nobody is forcing 939 users to upgrade to DDR2 to grab a cheap dual-core. That's what is so tempting about the price cuts.
 
-=Antimatter=- said:
AM2 wasn't designed for performance, and it clearly wasn't intended to compete with Core 2. It unified motherboard and system memory manufacturers under DDR2. Conroe is the clear choice for building a new system on the high-end until AMD's new line comes out to attempt real competition. 939 is still as fast as ever, and nobody is forcing 939 users to upgrade to DDR2 to grab a cheap dual-core. That's what is so tempting about the price cuts.
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This coming from someone with an AMD sig. :D
 
i gotta agree with Poncho here.
the 775 socket and conroe board also might (i say *might*) outlive the 939 socket since AMD already published a kinda road map for that.
if you are getting a new system, it is well worth it to buy a Conroe, even if it is a $200 chip
you upgrade path for the future is very good.
 
korrupted-drk- said:
All chips are interim chips if you want to look at it this way. Each release is just an interim chip until they release something else. With that logic there's no good time to ever upgrade since new things will just best the old things. At some point you gotta bite the bullet.

And why hope for separate L2? Intel has worked some nice magic with the shared L2. It's definately better (without going into CPU architecture) shared than not atm.
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You have to avoid that kind of philosphy when you're looking to upgrade. There are two times when it is good to upgrade in my opinion, and I'll explain why. First, right when a new technology or processor is released because it will last you a very long time before anything better comes out. Second, right before a new technology is released because prices for the high-end last generation items will be very low. The only conceivable reason for not upgrading now is if you want to wait for DX10, and in that case, just hold off on your video card (get a 7600GT or something).
 
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