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6200 to replace 9600xt??

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just curious...but would the 6200 be a decent replacement for 9600xt?

It's going to be used in an HTPC, and the max res is 1366x768. What I'm wanting to do is move the 9600xt to a pc I'm building for my son. All he'll be doing on it is schoolwork, some internet games (from disney and nick.com and stuff) and maybe some mild gaming like MLB2004 or something along those lines. He won't need anything like a x800xl or whatever 16-pipe card for what he'll be using it for.

All I need the 6200 to be able to do is keep up with VMR9 @ 1366x768 without stuttering/jumping or other anomolies.

maybe this should go in the HTPC forum...but I figured I'd start here first. I know the 6200 is a wimpy card, but wasn't sure about it's VMR9 capabilities (my 9600xt was great).
 
Maybe look into an X1300, they have very good media features from what I understand.
 
I was trying to stay around the $50-75 mark. If I'm going to drop $90 on an x1300, I may as well get another 6600GT and put that into my son's pc and leave the 9600xt where it's at.
This is going into the kids' HTPC. All it's playing is kid movies and cartoons. They don't need anything fancy, just decent VMR9 @ 1366x768.
 
argh! I'm not looking to upgrade, I'm simply looking to see if an el-cheapo $50 6200 would work fine for an HTPC with VMR9 @ 1366x768.

the PC that the 9600xt would be going in is only a P3 1.1Ghz w/512mb ram anyway...so why spend $100 on a decent card when the rest of the system would bottleneck it anyway????
 
For an HTPC I would go with an X1000 series card, you can't beat the quality. You can even get an X1600 with HDCP/HDMI.
 
You shouldn't have any problems using 9600xt for HTPC needs... Get one of those svideo to high def cables for your radeon off ebay or use DVI..
 
It seems like most people aren't bothering to actually address your question.

The 6200 is not much of a downgrade from the 9600XT, considering it's based on a better architecture and has the same amount of pipes. It will handle anything the 9600XT could.

If you're feeling adventurous, you could head over to the FS/FT forum and you'd probably be able to snag yourself a 9800Pro for about $60 shipped, which is much better than either the 9600XT or the 6200. If you just want a quick solution, the 6200 will do you fine, or you could grab a 9600Pro as an alternative like chris.putertech posted. Either way, it won't make much of a difference and either card will be adequate.
 
the biggest strike against the 6200 is the 64bit memory as opposed to the 128bit memory on the 9600 series the OP wants smooth video and the 2x memory bandwidth on the 9600 series will perform better.
 
Zero82z said:
It seems like most people aren't bothering to actually address your question.

The 6200 is not much of a downgrade from the 9600XT, considering it's based on a better architecture and has the same amount of pipes. It will handle anything the 9600XT could.

If you're feeling adventurous, you could head over to the FS/FT forum and you'd probably be able to snag yourself a 9800Pro for about $60 shipped, which is much better than either the 9600XT or the 6200. If you just want a quick solution, the 6200 will do you fine, or you could grab a 9600Pro as an alternative like chris.putertech posted. Either way, it won't make much of a difference and either card will be adequate.
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It seems you're not addressing his question either... :confused:

6200 is a downgrade from a 9600xt in gaming perspective... 6200 has 64 bit memory while 9600xt has 128bit... XT is clocked much higher too...

The guy already has 9600xt??? and why would he get a 9600pro?

6200 isn't so much better for HTPC either... I suggest you just keep??? your card and get an adapter or use DVI...
 
Marvelous said:
It seems you're not addressing his question either... :confused:

6200 is a downgrade from a 9600xt in gaming perspective... 6200 has 64 bit memory while 9600xt has 128bit... XT is clocked much higher too...

The guy already has 9600xt and why would he get a 9600pro?

6200 isn't so much better for HTPC either... I suggest you just keep your card and get an adapter or use DVI...
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Did you not read the original post? He's putting the 9600 into another PC and wants a new card for his HTPC. He's keeping the 9600XT for another computer, but he wants to know whether or not a 6200 will be an adequate replacement for it. Hence him wanting a 9600Pro or another comparable card.
 
Zero82z said:
Did you not read the original post? He's putting the 9600 into another PC and wants a new card for his HTPC. He's keeping the 9600XT for another computer, but he wants to know whether or not a 6200 will be an adequate replacement for it. Hence him wanting a 9600Pro or another comparable card.
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I was confused because he mentions he already has 9600xt... I edited my post before you even posted... so there... :p
 
Well a little research yeilded this bit of info...
In the ATI world VMR9 rendering suffers on video cards below a Radeon 9600XT level. NVIDIA, on the other hand, has been optimizing for VMR9 since the GeForce FX series. For using VMR9 on a standard definition TV a GeForce FX 5200 will suffice. If you want to use the higher resolution display of a HDTV a GeForce 5700 or higher is optimal.
so perhaps you might be better off with the 6200 even with it's lower bandwidth. who woulda thunk it.
 
You'll do just fine with a 6200, i would just try to avoid the 6200TC turbocache ones. I had a Leadtek 6200 which had the 128bit memory. It was one of the few 6200's you could soft mod into a 6600 (4 pipes to 8) I had for a 2nd rig for gaming so it did fair quite well.
 
hmmm....all kinds of input here :p

Didn't know about the VMR9 issues below the 9600xt...good to note ;) thanks.

as for the other cards, I may see which one I can pick up cheapest that has a 128-bit memory bus. The max res the card will be running is 1366x768 (32" LCD). No games are played on the HTPC, only movies.

Hell...depending on the prices, I may get another 9600xt :p I liked my card...overclocked to 650mhz on air.
 
so I got to looking at prices and whatnot...and thought to myself...f*ck it...I may just go for the x1300 card.

so I was googling for a long time about reviews and differences between purevideo and avivo...and ran across an artical at htpcnews.com. They showed the Nvidia cards having a slight edge over the ATI in picture detail...and I like picture detail.

and btw...I figured while I was getting a better card, I may as well take the 6600gt from my main htpc, stick it in the kids' htpc, and put the 9600xt in the kids computer.

anyone have any personal experiences with the x1300's? have you noticed any difference in detail from the Avivo vs Purevideo? From the pictures on the review, there was a noticeable difference, enough to make me go to Nvidia (however I don't like the pricepoint of any of their AGP cards comparable to the x1300 - like the 7600gs is around 149).
the review stated that the x1300 wouldn't be fast enough to play accelerated h.264 content at the highest HDTV resolutions (which, in the main PC I have running at 1080P).

I can get a decent x1300 for around $80...which I can live with. I can get an x1600pro for around $110 (without rebates...I never count rebates in with a price unless they're instant)...which is stretching what I have to spend (as i also need a wireless adapter as well)...throwing all gaming performance aside, will there be any benefit to going with the x1600pro????

This is going into an Ahanix Divine MC-601 case with the stock 350w psu and a P4 3ghz. So the power is an issue as well (the case uses a special psu...but an adapter can be gotten to use a regular mini-atx (I think that's right anyway) psu....which is yet more money for the adapter and psu...so I'm not going there)
 
hmmm...so looks like the x1300 then.

Unless there's a decent Nvidia card in the same price range. I just updated the drivers on the HTPC with the 6600gt and it made a very nice improvement in the IQ. The new nvidia control panel blows...but the IQ has definately improved.
 
chris.putertech said:
the X1300 only requires a 350W power suppy the X1600 requires at least a 450W
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I ran an X1600XT with a dual-core processor in a Shuttle XPC with a 240W PSU with 100% stability 24/7. The 'suggested' PSU specs are more to err on the side of caution, as many "generic" case manufacturers ship their cases with "500W" PSUs that perform more like 200W.

As to AVIVO's quality vs Purevideo....I'd take AVIVO any day. Read the HQV tests section in this article over at Anandtech. Or, this entire video at Firingsquad dedicated to comparing Purevideo vs AVIVO. This vid is actually quite informative.
 
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