5700LE or 9600XT

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I am putting together spare parts for my Uncle. He currently plays DOD(original). He is really hoping to play BF2 on this PC Im putting together.

I am not going to buy a video card, only using spare parts for this rig. I have the 5700LE and the 9600XT to choose from. I know that the 5700LE ran Doom 3 better than the 9600, but I have a friend who was playing both BF2 and BF2142 w/ the 9600XT. All lowest settings, but playable. He actually tended to do better in the game than me, too :)

The 5700LE has 256MB RAM, the 9600XT 128 I think.

Any thoughts on which may be better for BF2? Im leaning towards the 5700LE, but I know that the 9600XT can somewhat handle the game.
 
That is what I would think too, but I remember when my friend who owned the 9600XT and I LANed w/ Doom 3, my 5700LE destroyed his. I played at 1024 rez w/ med settings, his was 800 rez w/ all low settings to keep similar framerates. Never took the effort to figure out why, thought maybe the additoinal memory helped w/ textures.
 
id go with the 9600xt.

also were the rigs you and you friend playing on the same? there could have been factors like faster/slower cpu etc.
 
9600XT is the better card, if memory serves me correctly and Iam pretty sure it does :)
 
sam0t said:
9600XT is the better card, if memory serves me correctly and Iam pretty sure it does :)
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correct, youd need a 5700u to keep up with the 9600xt, and that would be in dx8 stuff, in dx9 stuff (bf2 for instance) the 9600xt is far superior
 
DrFreeze said:
correct, youd need a 5700u to keep up with the 9600xt, and that would be in dx8 stuff, in dx9 stuff (bf2 for instance) the 9600xt is far superior
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i second this man, 5700LE is heavily crippled from 5700U, but you may correct about doom 3, nv is more optimus prime at that time on doom 3.
 
nösferatu;1031174029 said:
i second this man, 5700LE is heavily crippled from 5700U, but you may correct about doom 3, nv is more optimus prime at that time on doom 3.
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probably true, although im not sure how a 5700le would do im doom3

a few years back i was faced with the decission between a 5700le and a 9600pro. (i was heavily budget constrained back then, these two were the best on either side i could get) even though i know the 5700le would most likely OC to the level of at least a normal 5700, and possibly an ultra (core wise, memorywise the ultra is much faster), i went for the radeon

the 9600 didnt do all that well in doom3 (timedemo 1 1024 >> 20 FPS :( ), but it was quite OK for HL2. i never did play BF2 with that card, as i got a 6800le before bf2 launched, but my little brother did, and it was quite playable
 
I'll post my BF2 results when I get everything installed. The rest of the system is a socket A Athlon at 1.8 GHz w/ 1.25 GB PC 2700 RAM. Decent enough for BF2.

In Doom 3 I ran the 5700LE at 1024 rez w/ everything on Medium settings w/ a 25-45 FPS. I bought the 5700LE just to run Doom 3, as my 5200 at the time really couldn't cut it.
 
Standpoint said:
I'll post my BF2 results when I get everything installed. The rest of the system is a socket A Athlon at 1.8 GHz w/ 1.25 GB PC 2700 RAM. Decent enough for BF2.

In Doom 3 I ran the 5700LE at 1024 rez w/ everything on Medium settings w/ a 25-45 FPS. I bought the 5700LE just to run Doom 3, as my 5200 at the time really couldn't cut it.
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hey, as long as you're benching, why not swap out the cards? its really not all that much work, just clean out the drivers and install the new card

and if you're serious, try OCing the 5700le, its default clock is about 250 IIRC, but most cards should be able to hit 400 easy, maybe even close to 475 (ultra speeds)

and you might be able to force the 5700le to do dx8.1 pixelshaders instead of dx9, which should boost BF2 performance as well
 
I ran a 9600XT since they came out, until February of this year playing BF42, MOHAA and whatever else. I think you should be ok with original DOD defiantly.
 
i had a 5700le for quite a bit, it couldn't play bf2 worth a damn. Lots of lag even on lowest settings, and almost any newer game wont work.
 
The thing holding performance back in Doom 3 is shadows, and Nvidia had better shadow hardware than ATI cards at the time. Combine this with Nvidia's better OpenGL driver, and Nvidia cards destroyed ATI cards in Doom 3.

http://3dgpu.com/archives/2004/08/18/nvidia-on-doom-3-and-ultrashadow-ii/

http://www.hothardware.com/articles/NV35_Doom3_Advantage/

Unfortunately, ATI coudln't copy UltraShadow because Nvidia held a patent on the technology.

You'll note that few games use shadows to the extent that Doom 3 did - Quake 4, for instance, has the performance difference between ATI and Nvidia much closer, although both games use the same engine.

The 9600 XT will toast the 5700 LE in all games except Doom 3.
 
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