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520watt PSU for $20?

... and the quality...

I wouldn't fuck around with a crap PSU, that thing could take out your entire system in one shot.

Edit: "You get what you pay for."
 
The regular price on that is only $25. :rolleyes:

With a cheap price like that, you can expect cheap performance.
 
You can't judge a power supply based on price. That same power supply sells for $45 at a local computer store so price alone is not a determining factor. Maybe they just don't price their PSUs as high as some of the other ones that rip people off.

So you saying that unless you pay $100+ for a 520watt power supply, that it isn't any good?

Noone ever heard of a good product at a reasonable price?

I'm not saying it's good but, everyone is jumping on it and dissing it simply because of price. Not one person has given any references to knowledge of the product and yet it's jumped all over because of the price?

I guess people better stop selling stuff at low, or reasonable prices so they won't be called junk.
 
Although it may be a good deal, it may not be effective. When you pay a little more for something like a Fortron or an Antec, you are paying for peace of mind. This may work fine, yes. It may also die and take your motherboard and processor with it. Buying a cheap PSU is like playing Russian Roulette.
 
Originally posted by Fetti
You can't judge a power supply based on price. That same power supply sells for $45 at a local computer store so price alone is not a determining factor. Maybe they just don't price their PSUs as high as some of the other ones that rip people off.

So you saying that unless you pay $100+ for a 520watt power supply, that it isn't any good?

Noone ever heard of a good product at a reasonable price?

I'm not saying it's good but, everyone is jumping on it and dissing it simply because of price. Not one person has given any references to knowledge of the product and yet it's jumped all over because of the price?

I guess people better stop selling stuff at low, or reasonable prices so they won't be called junk.
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So who gives a shit that the local computer store is selling it for $45? Its called the local computer store is ripping people off.
We know what brands are good, you haven't even mentioned any names.
You get what you pay for. Bottom line, dumbass kid.
 
Originally posted by Fetti
You can't judge a power supply based on price. That same power supply sells for $45 at a local computer store so price alone is not a determining factor. Maybe they just don't price their PSUs as high as some of the other ones that rip people off.

So you saying that unless you pay $100+ for a 520watt power supply, that it isn't any good?

Noone ever heard of a good product at a reasonable price?

I'm not saying it's good but, everyone is jumping on it and dissing it simply because of price. Not one person has given any references to knowledge of the product and yet it's jumped all over because of the price?

I guess people better stop selling stuff at low, or reasonable prices so they won't be called junk.
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Agree. Good post.
 
I think it's more of a supply/demand thing.

If this was a perfect power supply, just as stable as an Antec, for 20 dollars, don't you think someone might have caught on by now? I mean, if you could get a 520 watt PSU for 20 bucks, why would people waste money on a PC power and cooling PSU?

People pay for a product that is known to be good, and if they have to put the price on them as $16.50 to sell them, that probably means something.

All it would take was one person to say "Hey, this power supply is just as stable as my PC power and cooling PSU!" for someone to catch on, and then someone else, and eventually the demand would go up... Then the price...

I'm not saying that this power supply is 100% positively terrible, as I have never tried it. But chances are it will be just like the rest of the generic knock-off power supplies, and I wouldn't take the risk with my hardware.

Okay, now that that's said, flame me. :)
 
Originally posted by RS3RS
If this was a perfect power supply, just as stable as an Antec, for 20 dollars, don't you think someone might have caught on by now? I mean, if you could get a 520 watt PSU for 20 bucks, why would people waste money on a PC power and cooling PSU?

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How do you think Monster Cable has survived so long?

It's not supply and demand, it's simpley marketing. The same thing applies here.

Are the PSs worth $100-200? Of course not. But the marketing makes you think so.
 
Well one thing's for sure, lets see how it holds up when you use a $20 PSU. Go ahead, buy it.
 
I wouldn't touch it... MooCow provides a very valid point.

wouldn't fuck around with a crap PSU, that thing could take out your entire system in one shot.
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Invest in a good power supply, it is the component that powers all others within. I dont know the product, but for $25 you arn't getting your money's worth.

just my two cents.
 
The AG 520 Watt ATX Power Supply features sufficient power and compatibility for all the latest hardware.
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you know its crap when a resselers discription starts useing words like sufficient... lol
 
If this was a perfect power supply, just as stable as an Antec, for 20 dollars, don't you think someone might have caught on by now? I mean, if you could get a 520 watt PSU for 20 bucks, why would people waste money on a PC power and cooling PSU?
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ever heard of someone being first?

lets say the antec series are perfect power supplies...since everyone likes it...... now lets say their first model or first product in all their history, was bought by me....does that mean its not good because someone may have caught on by the time i bought it?...theres always a first...
 
Eh...yea

Crappy psu + high power usage compuer = not good

I tried it one time and i got lucky and the power supply didnt kill anything in the comp but thing annhilated itself. Once i plugged it in and powered on the comp the computer was hesitant on starting up and after hesitating for like 3sec or so the power supply started smoking up and i was about to reach for the plug. The whole freaking thing exploded with huuuuuuugggeee ass sparks. I pulled the plug and checked it out. Seemed like all the MOSFET things exploded/cracked and the capacitors were blown(yes a physical hole on it). To say the least. Once i checked that i didnt lose any body parts i went and put in another psu to test the comp to make sure it wasnt a gonner. It booted up ok and ever since then i never use anything besides enermax, antec, vantec, or basically any heavy weight power supply :p
 
Originally posted by MooCow
So who gives a shit that the local computer store is selling it for $45? Its called the local computer store is ripping people off.
We know what brands are good, you haven't even mentioned any names.
You get what you pay for. Bottom line, dumbass kid.
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Well, so much for civil discussions. No need to bring childish name calling into it.

My whole point was, everyone was dissing it simply because of price. I KNOW you get what you pay for. I have used Antec TruePowers in just about everything i have but, I have also used Sparkle and the ones that come with cases sometimes also with no problems.

All I was saying is, don't diss something simply based on it's price.

If they had charged $90+ for it, noone would have said a word about getting what you pay for :)

All the post was about was wow, nice price on a high wattage PSU. I wanted to know if anyone had had any ACTUAL experience with these things BEFORE I baught one. The reason for the post.

I just thought it was odd that everyone was saying bad things about it because of price alone and noone had any actual experience or references to people with experience. Hence my statement that if they sell something for a low price, expect everyone to jump all over it calling it junk.

I appreciate people's concern and understand it and that's no problem. I had the same concern. That's why I brought it up here. There are a lot of GREAT products at GREAT prices out there.

I have no idea if this is good or not. It would be good to see someone that knows how to test power supplies hnd has the equipment, to test one of these puppies.
 
yeah, the power supplies that come with cheap cases, i dont use those either. if i build a computer for someone, i want to be sure the power supply doesn't let the smoke out of their new computer. some may think this is being overly cautious. if you think thats true, by all means get the cheap one.

being $25 and 520watts, if it were a good power supply, i would think reviewers would be touting it as the best power supply $25 can buy. eh, who knows... i don't.
 
Originally posted by Fetti
If they had charged $90+ for it, noone would have said a word about getting what you pay for :)
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If it was $90, I still would have said you get what you pay for. Price is irrelevant. It is still a generic crappy PSU judging by its name.

I have had generic PSU's take out most of my system, and I have also had them work fine.
 
Originally posted by ChingChang
If it was $90, I still would have said you get what you pay for. Price is irrelevant. It is still a generic crappy PSU judging by its name.

I have had generic PSU's take out most of my system, and I have also had them work fine.
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Now that, I can totally understand. Basically, you wouldn't trust it with it being a generic or unknown, untested brand. Everyone has to start somewhere :) but, I can understand that and agree with it.

It is tempting though. 520watt with SATA and good amperage on the rails and all for that price.

I have to concede though and agree it isn't worth the risk. I could end up spending TONS more replacing my system from a bad PSU versus going with a known quality PSU and spending just a little more.

Thanks to the ones that gave civil opinions and discussion.

To the ones that resort to name calling, well, all I can say is get some help, there was no need for that.
 
Exactly :)

This would be a nice PSU to test stuff, or to use to power fans and lights though.

Or go to the local comp store with it, make up some excuse (it didn't work, not compatable with your AT board, got it as a gift but didn't need) and return for pofit ;)
JK that isn't right... but I bet it would work at some places lol
 
Originally posted by MooCow
Just buy the $20 PSU, save yourself some money.
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The opposing arguments whole point is that when you buy a cheaper psu...it doesn't save you money. It costs more money to replace the blown out parts the psu can take with it. It doesn't have the sophistcated circuitry protections offered by better brand names. A decent psu is cheap insurance for an expensive rig.

I'd drop my psu off an airplane if it took out an expensive video card or some sticks of ram :mad:

Edit: Sry MooCow....you were the "opposing argument" LoL I have ADD :p
 
Some PSUs never reach the intended wattage they say. I say it is BS
 
Originally posted by SJetski71
The opposing arguments whole point is that when you buy a cheaper psu...it doesn't save you money. It costs more money to replace the blown out parts the psu can take with it. It doesn't have the sophistcated circuitry protections offered by better brand names. A decent psu is cheap insurance for an expensive rig.

I'd drop my psu off an airplane if it took out an expensive video card or some sticks of ram :mad:

Edit: Sry MooCow....you were the "opposing argument" LoL I have ADD :p
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No prob. The only reason why I came up with that quick last statement was cause first he shows us the PSU, then we give our opinions on it (I mean, he did create a thread, right?), then immediatly tries to shoot down our comments, and then in the end, bends over and takes it up the ass while shouting "ok ok guys, you were all right from the beginning".
 
Originally posted by wayne
ever heard of someone being first?
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"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread" - Alexander Pope Essay on Criticism

Originally posted by Fetti
So you saying that unless you pay $100+ for a 520watt power supply, that it isn't any good?
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Id put it closer to $200

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=702661
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=703824&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

a few excerpts

4-Way Power Supply Shootout: Vantec, Enermax, ThermalTake, Antec
> "the majority of damaged RAM returned to memory manufacturers is destoryed by fluctuations in the voltage"

Winbond Launches New Bus Termination Regulator
"Computer systems architectures continue to evolve and are becoming more complex; CPU and memory speeds continue to increase ever more rapidly with every technology turn. More and more high current/low voltage power sources are required for PC systems. This is particularly true for high-speed components such as CPU, memory, and system chipsets. The performance of these components is highly dependent upon stable power. Therefore, motherboard designers require accurate, stable, low-ripple and robust power solutions for these components."

So for me, $200 for a PCP&C is nothing compared to the $1200 I paid for the RAM, not to mention other components
 
for that price buy it test it under load conditions on the bench, find out if it's any good. If it is tell us all and be our hero for finding a quality supply at a great price, if not you have a test supply. I would look at the specs on it really close before I put it into my system. One good way to tell if quality components are in it is the efficency rating(that is of course if they tell the truth). I have always gone with Antec after finding out that power to your system is very important.
 
Nice links and info Ice.

Wow, some major differences there. Good to know my Antec is so clean. Definately worth the extra price.

Never really realized there was such drastic differences like that. Those graphs say a TON though. Like the old saying, a picture is worth a 1000 words.
 
Originally posted by Fetti
Like the old saying, a picture is worth a 1000 words.
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and in the case of my workstation
a thousand dollars :p
 
Originally posted by Ice Czar
"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread" - Alexander Pope Essay on Criticism
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whats that quote mean?

i mean like, i dont see the concept.... it might be that i m kinda retarded or that i m working too late on my homework
 
Capacitors, Regulators, Chips, and even resistors come in 3 flavors. guess which ones cost the most.

Good
ok
crap

it would suck if your PC fried because they saved 1 cent on a resistor.
 
Originally posted by wayne
whats that quote mean?

i mean like, i dont see the concept.... it might be that i m kinda retarded or that i m working too late on my homework
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http://www.bartleby.com/59/3/foolsrushinw.html

The New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition. 2002.

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread


Foolish people are often reckless, attempting feats that the wise avoid. This saying is from “An Essay on Criticism,” by Alexander Pope.
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early adopters of technology\brands (being first) more often than not means you get to deal with "issues" if your lucky
if your unlucky, like in a core element such as a PSU, you can totally fubar several hundred dollars worth of very sensitive components
 
I think the product could be completely fine. For those of you who are driving Volkswagens, you do realize your'e driving an Audi essentially. Check your coolant hoses and vacuum hoses, they all have OOOO audi rings. Point is, just because its off-name, or a name not recognized, doesn't mean its using shit internals. I have a Cendyne DVD writer that literally says "Pioneer 104" on the inside casing. I bought it for $45 @ BJ's Wholesale, should I have said "Thats a crappy writer... forget it."? Or, as I did, give it a chance only to find out that it's more than meets the eye....


touche.
 
I guess most of the people here are assuming this PSU sucks. The only way to tell for sure now is to actually buy this product and see how it performs or to find a review of it and see how it did. ;)
 
- ATX 2.03 and 12V 1.1 Compliance
- Low Acoustic Noise
- Short Circuit Protection
- Over Voltage Protection
- Thermal Overload Cut-Off Protection
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Low acoustic noise can easily come from putting a small/weak fan in there. The last 3 come standard on just about any regulator you can use in a supply.

Now since the features list nothing specific besides all the things that are bare minimum on just about any part you can get i'm willing to bet it's a really cheap PSU spec'ed at temperatures that air conditioning can't even provide. If a company makes a good supply they would at least provide some specifications, pictures of internals, or some sort of evidence to prove it's a good supply.

I think you can pretty safely kiss voltage regulation goodbye with that supply.
 
There was a post like this only a small while ago.
The fact is, it may be a quality PSU that has been set a great RRP. As lil layzie said, you don't know until you try it. You never know, it may be a very good quality PSU that also supplies high power. Perhaps some people need to stop bagging things as soon as they see it just cause it isn't made by a big brand name, has a great price and pumps out big power. Okay guys? :)
 
Originally posted by UrineMachine
I think the product could be completely fine. For those of you who are driving Volkswagens, you do realize your'e driving an Audi essentially. Check your coolant hoses and vacuum hoses, they all have OOOO audi rings. Point is, just because its off-name, or a name not recognized, doesn't mean its using shit internals. I have a Cendyne DVD writer that literally says "Pioneer 104" on the inside casing. I bought it for $45 @ BJ's Wholesale, should I have said "Thats a crappy writer... forget it."? Or, as I did, give it a chance only to find out that it's more than meets the eye....


touche.
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your DVD doesnt power sensitive Integrated Circuits

but I bet it came with "full" specs, unlike that power supply
(either in the ad or on the "manufacturers" :rolleyes: website)



Coup d'arrêt :p

Originally posted by 4keatimj
There was a post like this only a small while ago.
The fact is, it may be a quality PSU that has been set a great RRP. As lil layzie said, you don't know until you try it. You never know, it may be a very good quality PSU that also supplies high power. Perhaps some people need to stop bagging things as soon as they see it just cause it isn't made by a big brand name, has a great price and pumps out big power. Okay guys? :)
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I disagree, there is a responsibility involved here
if its a quality PSU where are the specs?
Impressionable new members need to be made aware of these issues, its unlikely that any other component you select for a computer configuration, is capable of the same catastrophic damage that a PSU can deliver
and even if its just intermittent instability, that is still enough to put a n00b off building their own, arguably the "mission" of this site

this is not a court of law, when it comes to a "cheap" PSU
they are presumed guilty until proven innocent
 
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