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"4890x2 Coming"
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Not if you're overclocking.
silent-circuit
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Yep. Lower temps mean higher clocks without artifacting. Tolerances are lower the higher the temp you're running, generally speaking.
As the owner of a 4870x2 I must say that I think they need to fix the driver issues for these dual cards before they even consider releasing another one. I just paid top dollar for it in February and they are already trying to replace it without first working out the driver issues. 
From what I've seen of overclocking these new cards, it's not heat that is the barrier to overclocking, and they run at (basically) the same temperature overclocked as they do stock.
mastrdrver
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As the owner of a 4870x2 I must say that I think they need to fix the driver issues for these dual cards before they even consider releasing another one. I just paid top dollar for it in February and they are already trying to replace it without first working out the driver issues.
If your having the code 43 (disabled display) error. Try this cause these three things are the only things I did different between the two times I installed Vista x64. The first time game me errors that always popped up and I did everything I could find, and the second time where I never had a problem.
1) Uninstall everything and drive sweep it. Make sure you have no ATi drivers that you can update the card to.
2) Make sure both gpus are using the same MS vga driver. Go to device manager and right click the two gpus and make sure they are both using the MS vga driver. I know when I was fighting through it that one would not and the other would.
3) Turn off windows defender/firewall. Disconnect your Internet connection or have another firewall other than the windows one.
4) Make sure windows update is not trying to download, install, or check updates
5) Install 9.4 CCC driver package. I recommend starting from 8.10 since everyone, including myself, seem to never have a problems with that package and it is the last one that seemed to work without any problems. If you start from 8.10, then jump to 9.4 (or which ever) you will at least have something to roll back to just in case this doesn't work.
Heat is always a barrier with overclocking, especially with these newer high-end cards.
if they'd stop using crappy noisy heatsinks and just use a decent yet affordable aftermarket theyd make alot of progress on the heat issues
artic cooling has a nice one for the 4870x2 now, they just need to start using them in the reference designs
artic cooling has a nice one for the 4870x2 now, they just need to start using them in the reference designs
Seems like one of ATIs partners is dead serious on doing something like this. I just hope the pricetage isnt in the stratosphere.
ElMoIsEviL
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nVIDIA is going for a software solution. They are going to be re-introducing the nVIDIA compiler which many of us are familiar with from the NV30/NV40 era.
Yes, nVIDIAs next architecture will use a rather large increase in ALU to TEX ratio much like ATi.
I get a little annoyed every time someone complains about new revolutionary GPUs not coming fast enough. These are extremely large and complicated designs. We can't just snap our fingers and three months later out pops a new architecture. And things move fast in GPU-land. In CPU-land, you are looking at 3-5 years for a new generation.
28 noobs later
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This. From the 8800gtx to the 260gtx, and the 280gtx onwards, I think nvidia has it. The 4870x2 is an amazing card, but I fail to see why people say (with tiresome regularity) it kills the 280. It should, it's two cards in one (and it doesn't beat it that bad, in some games, not at all).
Don't get me wrong, it ATI comes out with something new, and it's dope, I'll be all over it, but Nvidia has a lot more cash in the bank than AMD/Ati. I know Nvidia lost a lot of cash last quarter, but so did everyone else, and if it turns out to be a see who makes it the longest without running out of money game, Nvidia wins. Not that I'm happy about that mind you.
What every happened to Intel getting into the graphics game? It thought that was on the horizon.
Still is, but we are still a year away.
silent-circuit
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...and it'll still be mid range shit when it gets here. Early impressions of Larrabee put it on the performance level of a GTX 260, if not lower. It won't be a "game changer" in any way save for improving accessibility of the PC as a true gaming platform.
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I don't get why Larrabee is getting so much hate. However it turns out, it'll be good for the customers with another competitor. And I, for one, think it's great that they're bringing something new to the table, even if it is, at least for the first few years, inferior to the high-end GPU products.
silent-circuit
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I saw some Project Offset videos not long ago supposedly running on Larrabee, and people were claiming 4850 to GTX 260 level performance. Admittedly not the most reliable source, but it does at least make it a little more interesting.
I wouldn't be overly optimistic about TSMC's 40nm processs. They dropped a node in feature size, but haven't changed thier process in any other ways (eg high k gates). As a result they're unlikely to see any major clock/power consumption gains. The only major thing we'll get out of it is cheaper GPU chips themselves.
matrix563
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wow thats impressive
Being able to put 2x as many shaders, etc on a chip of a given size should result in an approximate doubling of performance, so it's safe to assume that ATI/nVidia will release new cards based around the process. What we shouldn't expect is any free increase in clockspeeds out of it.Ouch, so it might even be longer
linkage? And there is a good deal of difference 4850 to 4870/260
I doubt ati will likely just double the hardware on the chip.
ATI will likely go with as small a chip they can get away with, and still have 256 bus width...
And then simply tighten up the timings like the 4890, for higher clock speeds.
ellover009
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Question is how much will it retail for? More in par with current 4870x2 or more priced like the 295gtx. If they do release it it's a given sign that we won't see the dx11 cards till end of year.