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4670 vs gt240

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I am looking for a new card for my pc. Just sold my 4870 because I do not game on my pc anymore since I got an Xbox. I am looking for something for general use maybe some encoding. Which would you guys recommend. I prefer ATI but I just want the best midlevel card.

Or should I just wait and see what the 5670 brings to the table?

Would like to keep the price below $100 and would prefer it to be single slot. I have a shuttle sg45h7 its going into. The 4870 ran way to hot for this little case.
 
The 240GT is just a rebrandered 9800GT with a new, smaller die process. I haven't seen the benchmarks but I doubt it's significantly faster than the 9800GT green slim profile that might be better for an HTPC case. the 5750 also offers similar performance to a GTS250 and by extension the 240GT and consumes very little power as well as offering DX11 and media HD streaming.
 
vjcsmoke said:
The 240GT is just a rebrandered 9800GT with a new, smaller die process. I haven't seen the benchmarks but I doubt it's significantly faster than the 9800GT green slim profile that might be better for an HTPC case. the 5750 also offers similar performance to a GTS250 and by extension the 240GT and consumes very little power as well as offering DX11 and media HD streaming.
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No, it doesn't actually beat a 9800GT. The performance trades blows with a 9600GT, depending on the game. That makes it really hard to recommend, since you can get the card that trounced it (the 9800GT) for $100 here.
 
tsfroggy said:
Sounds like the 5750 could be a winnar. When does it ship out?
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Right now. But since supplies are limited, and ATI doesn't want to release a 512MB version (will cost exactly the same to make), you have to pony-up for the 1GB version!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125302&cm_re=5750-_-14-125-302-_-Product

If idle power is top priority, take a look at this list of idle power measurements:

4670 for $65 - VERY low idle power, marginal gaming performance.
GT240 for $99 - VERY low idle power, marginally better gaming
5750 for $145 - fairly low idle power (same as 5770 in my link), decent gaming performance.
 
defaultluser said:
No, it doesn't actually beat a 9800GT. The performance trades blows with a 9600GT, depending on the game. That makes it really hard to recommend, since you can get the card that trounced it (the 9800GT) for $100 here.
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Thanks for the benchmarks. This is really puzzling, so the 240GT doesn't even beat a 9600GT and trails the 9800GT significantly? what the heck is it good for then? Might as well buy a 4670 which is nearly as good and save yourself about $35. A 9800GT green edition also would probably be a better investment of money than a 240GT.

The 5750 1GB version is out now, but it looks like most retailors are charging over MSRP for it. If it were sold at its real MRSP it would be a pretty sweet HTPC card. The 512MB version is supposed to retail for $109 but I don't think its out yet. Don't know why though.
 
Thanks for the responses. Sounds like the GT 240 is not worth the money they are charging for it. Low idle power is important only as far as heat output is concerned. The 5750 or 5770 sound like the ticket. I sold my 4870 asus card because it didnt have the reference cooler and dumped all of its heat inside of my shuttle causing it to run hotter than I liked.
 
needmorecarnitine said:
Do current entry level or mid level cards help at all in encoding?

If not, why not just get a $20~30 card?




Like this one (just picked at random):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121310
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Not so much. They can handle the decode, but there's just not as much horsepower there for the encoding assist (encoding speed scales pretty close with gaming performance). The hardware used for decode is not the same as that used to speed encodes.
 
if i were you id get a 4850. most of them are single slot nowadays except the XFX one and the ones that have "improved cooling" AKA ICQ4 from HIS, but most of them should have single slot coolers and if you really wanna be small about it go for the palit ones theyr smaller PCB version of the original HD 4850 design and if you look around you can get them for sub $100
 
dinlee23 said:
if i were you id get a 4850. most of them are single slot nowadays except the XFX one and the ones that have "improved cooling" AKA ICQ4 from HIS, but most of them should have single slot coolers and if you really wanna be small about it go for the palit ones theyr smaller PCB version of the original HD 4850 design and if you look around you can get them for sub $100
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4850 is really not the way to go if you want lower power and heat from your video card. OP has a shuttle case. The 4770/5770/5750 or 9600GT/9800GT Green Edition would be better choices than a 4850 in this particular case.
 
I currently am running a old 3450 that I had lying around from an old HTPC. It works ok, I would like to have something better just cause I dont like to have low end parts in my pc.:p

I used to have the HIS ICEQ4 4850 that quit so I got the 4870 that I just sold. Wished I still had it. If I get a hot card it just needs to exhaust its hot air out the case and not dump it inside like the 4870 I had did.

I think I will end up going with a 5770 because it will have plenty of horsepower for what I need it to do.I just want the older style cooler that exhausts out the rear. Hope the price comes down after the first of the year, although that could be wishful thinking.
 
Hello, I am also looking for a budget gaming video card. I already have a Core i5 setup and was ready to go with a Palit GT 240 1GB GDDR5, but then I was told that the Radeon 4850 1GB GDDR3 was a better choice. The computer I'm buying is going to be used mostly for multi-tasking (web/music/downloading) and moderate gaming. Looking for something that will give maximum fps performance, not necessarily on maxed settings. I figured the 1GB GDDR5 card would fit these needs since has more bandwidth than a GDDR3 card. Now I'm hearing that the benchmarks for this card are inferior to the 9800GT GDDR3 and 4850 GDDR3 cards. I also heard that 512MB cards should be sufficient for smaller/single monitors, which I plan to use on a 24" lcd, but would 1GB make a bigger difference for multi-tasking? Also how much of a difference would memory interface and stream processing units make? I don't plan on using SLI/Crossfire so that's not necessary. Any suggestions for a budget around $100-$150?

Are these better options than the GT 240?

ATI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161288 (128-bit Memory Interface? GDDR3? 1GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161260 (256-bit Memory Interface? GDDR3? 512MB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161260 (256-bit Memory Interface? GDDR3? 1GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102866 (256-bit Memory Interface? GDDR5? 1GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161309 (More expensive? 1GB)

NVidia
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121334 (256-bit Memory Interface? GDDR3? 512MB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134079 (256-bit Memory Interface? GDDR3? 1GB)
Or any of the 9800GT/GTX models?
 
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vjcsmoke said:
The 240GT is just a rebrandered 9800GT with a new, smaller die process. I haven't seen the benchmarks but I doubt it's significantly faster than the 9800GT green slim profile that might be better for an HTPC case. the 5750 also offers similar performance to a GTS250 and by extension the 240GT and consumes very little power as well as offering DX11 and media HD streaming.
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the gt240 is not a rebranded 9800gt by any means. in fact I cant think of a single thing it has in common with a 9800gt.

gt240
40nm
96sp
32tmu
8rop
128bit
gddr5
DX 10.1


9800gt
65 or 55nm
112sp
56tmu
16rop
256bit
gddr3
DX 10
 
vjcsmoke said:
The 240GT is just a rebrandered 9800GT with a new, smaller die process. I haven't seen the benchmarks but I doubt it's significantly faster than the 9800GT green slim profile that might be better for an HTPC case. the 5750 also offers similar performance to a GTS250 and by extension the 240GT and consumes very little power as well as offering DX11 and media HD streaming.
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Here we go again...A GT 240 is NOT a rebranded 9800 GT...It's a mid-low end card, based on GT200, with DX10.1 support and is compared with the 9600 GT.

You are confusing GT 240 with GTS 240...
 
vjcsmoke said:
The 240GT is just a rebrandered 9800GT with a new, smaller die process. I haven't seen the benchmarks but I doubt it's significantly faster than the 9800GT green slim profile that might be better for an HTPC case. the 5750 also offers similar performance to a GTS250 and by extension the 240GT and consumes very little power as well as offering DX11 and media HD streaming.
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gt 240 is not a rebranded 8800/9800 gt. gt 240 has 96 shaders with 128-bit memory bus plus GDDR3 or GDDR5 memory. 8800/9800gt has 112 on 256-bit bus with gddr3 memory.
 
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