4060 Ti SSD to Z490-i

[honegod]

my current computer has a 1050ti which does anything I want.
but i have a desire to add SATA plugs to the 4 on the Z490-i.
the SSD in the 4060 Ti SSD would allows me to use me 5 more SATA plugs.

but i looked at asus and the 4060 Ti SSD is only on the last couple types motherboards, NOT my older unit.

is it true that new video cards are useless in older motherboards ?

 

[wareyore]

is it true that new video cards are useless in older motherboards ?

No. Generally, newer GPU's are fine on older MB's.

But in this very specific situation, maybe. The reason is the m.2 slot on this video card. It requires the slot for the GPU to share bandwidth correctly with the GPU and other m.2 slots on the MB. So, ASUS is not guaranteeing it will work correctly on every MB and provided a list of known MB's from their lineup that will work.

I have the ASUS 390-i and 590-i. I was disappointed with the m.2 setup on the 590-i as it required an 11th Gen intel CPU to use one of the m.2 slots. I used it for a 10th Gen over/under dual system build and was unable to use the second m.2 slot. If I'd known that prior to purchase I would have opted for something different. But, by the time I was able to add a second m.2 nvme, it was too late. My guess is that either of those two MB's would not work with the m.2 on this GPU correctly or I may lose some capability with other parts of the MB. I'd have to really read through the info on the MB's to determine.

So, reach out to ASUS - maybe they can tell you definitively. If you proceed, purchase with a company that has a very easy return policy and test it right away.

 

[pendragon1]

is it true that new video cards are useless in older motherboards ?

no.
youre looking a a very oddball card. see above post.

 

[zandor]

The 4060 and 4060Ti are both limited to 8x PCI-e 4.0, which leaves the other 8 lanes in a 16x slot unused. Looks like Asus found a use for them.

This is mostly a bunch of guessing, but here goes...

I bet this card needs PCI-e bifurcation support to work. PCI-e bifurcation allows the lanes in a PCI-e slot to be split between more than one device on a card. The most common example are those cheap M.2 cards that put 2 M.2 slots in an 8x slot or 4 in a 16x slot. Not all add-in cards to get more M.2 slots need PCI-e bifurcation though. The nicer ones have a chip on them that allows multiple M.2 drives to share lanes and removes the PCI-e bifurcation support requirement, but these cards are a couple hundred bucks.

I wouldn't be surprised if this goofy vid card worked in older and non-Asus boards as long as the board has PCI-e bifurcation support. Might even work in my X99 board from 2012. Historically Asus has included PCI-e bifurcation support on boards that use higher end chipsets. You have to check the specific board, but I bet your Z490 board supports PCI-e bifurcation so this vid card might work. They're probably just too lazy to support years of past products. Does your mainboard have the ability to split the PCI-e 16x into 2x 8x? Rather than buying a new vid card it would be cheaper to just get one of those 8x -> 2x M.2 adapter cards. Asus calls their version "Hyper M.2". Gimping a 1050Ti to 8x isn't going to hurt it's performance noticeably.

Also, if your vid card slot is not running at a full 16x I bet the 4060Ti SSD will either not work or the M.2 slot will not work and it will just function as a vid card. Assuming it's wired the way I think it is it needs 12 PCI-e lanes, so effectively I expect it needs a full 16x electrical slot.

 

[honegod]

as long as the board has PCI-e bifurcation support

Thank You

I was excited that the Z490i bifurcates its x16.
surely it should be available to get a 1 into 2 pcie cable.
allowing me to have a x8 video AND some card to run as much sata as possible into x8

this video concept is sweet ! i have a M.2 plug with 5 sata sockets that should work, without needing to mechanic a second card into the lian li itx.

 

[mnewxcv]

How would the 4060ti ssd allow for 5 more Sata plugs?

 

[zandor]

How would the 4060ti ssd allow for 5 more Sata plugs?

The OP has an M.2 card with 5 SATA ports on it. Something like this, except the first one I found has 6. M.2 in PCI-e mode is a 4x PCI-e slot. They make other stuff too, like here's a 10Gb NIC and you can even get a ribbon cable adapter to turn an M.2 slot into a regular PCI-e slot.