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3dmark score...

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sirsaechao

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Only scored like 5900 ish on the 3dmark last night at 1400 X 900 resolution. All stock. No over clocking. What can I do to up to better my score w/o hurting the life of my PC and components? Please don't flame. Any help and information is greatly appreciated.
 
The question is why do you want to up your score? Not trying to flame.

Are you trying to compare your pc to someone else's? Are you trying to see how much your score improved after an upgrade? You can also set your settings in your nvidia control panel to turn off AA and set video settings for performance.

Like most people will say up your hardware to something better. from what your sig shows you gave a XFX 8800GT OC. Maybe upgrade to an 8800GTS OC?
 
6000 is a bit low. Average is double my score. I'm just seeing if I can get mine higher than it is by tweaking. But I don't know anything when it comes to that kind of stuff. My 8800 GT is stock at 670 MHz.
 
Well, it is a Quad that the OP is using so I would expect something a bit higher than that. Although, I'm not quite sure where the Phenom falls with the C2Q's. I do know that the resolution you are trying to run it at is a tad bit larger than the stock res so of course you'd expect to receive a performance hit. Although, how much? I'm not sure but the higher the res, the less the CPU matters in everyday gaming. The best way without overclocking to up your score would be to use the stock resolution and change the nvidia control panel settings to Performance rather than Quality.
 
5900 is horrible for that setup. Did you get Vista SP1? It probably enabled the TLB fix for the 9600, and you need to disable that for performance. Unless you disable the TLB fix your system is crippled.
 
ocellaris said:
5900 is horrible for that setup. Did you get Vista SP1? It probably enabled the TLB fix for the 9600, and you need to disable that for performance. Unless you disable the TLB fix your system is crippled.
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My computer was built back on 3/3/08. I tried to d/l SP1 and it says I have it already...I tried looking for it but I can't find it, where will I need to look to make sure I have SP1. How do I disable the TLB? What is the TLB?
 
skizzled said:
Well, it is a Quad that the OP is using so I would expect something a bit higher than that. Although, I'm not quite sure where the Phenom falls with the C2Q's. I do know that the resolution you are trying to run it at is a tad bit larger than the stock res so of course you'd expect to receive a performance hit. Although, how much? I'm not sure but the higher the res, the less the CPU matters in everyday gaming. The best way without overclocking to up your score would be to use the stock resolution and change the nvidia control panel settings to Performance rather than Quality.
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My stock 19" widescreen is 1400 X 900 but the default on 3dmark is 1280 X 1024. Which one am I supposed to be running?
 
I'm at work. I will see tonight. Kinda scary for a person like me to do. I don't f*ck stuff up.
 
You can not really ^$^& it up, either TLB fix is enabled or it isn't. No worries!

Benchmark at the default setting that comes up in 3DMark, thats what everyone uses to get a score to compare.
 
That means you just open 3DMark06 and click "Run Benchmark" with adjusting any settings. When people say "My 3DMark score is XYZY!" thats all they did to get the score.
 
sirsaechao said:
I'm already lost in just reading the steps. Ouch.
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this means you havent even looked at 3D Mark to even know anything. Its not hard just open the app and click RUN. thats it. after about 5 to 10 min (never timed it) it will give your score.
 
firebug88 said:
this means you havent even looked at 3D Mark to even know anything. Its not hard just open the app and click RUN. thats it. after about 5 to 10 min (never timed it) it will give your score.
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I thought he was talking about the steps to turn off the TLB fix :D
 
skizzled said:
Well, it is a Quad that the OP is using so I would expect something a bit higher than that. Although, I'm not quite sure where the Phenom falls with the C2Q's. I do know that the resolution you are trying to run it at is a tad bit larger than the stock res so of course you'd expect to receive a performance hit. Although, how much? I'm not sure but the higher the res, the less the CPU matters in everyday gaming. The best way without overclocking to up your score would be to use the stock resolution and change the nvidia control panel settings to Performance rather than Quality.
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actually 1440x900 == 1296000 pixels
1280x1024 == 1310720

1280x1024 > 1440x900 ;)

@OP: Screw 3dmark - fire up a game and just play it.
 
@OP: Screw 3dmark - fire up a game and just play it.
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Without something like 3DMark to produce a synthetic (but easily compared) result, its likely he never would have realized his system was running like total ass.
 
Something seems very wrong with that score. My score was close to 7000 with my old pc with:

pentium d (thats right, the crap dual core)
3GB ram 533MHZ
8800GTS 640MB
120Gb Hdd IDE
 
I would start by going to nvidia.com downloading and installing the latest drivers for your video card!(174.74) WHQL Also a link to your 3dmark06 score might further help in diagnosing the problem.

Cheers!
 
bluehaze013 said:
I would start by going to nvidia.com downloading and installing the latest drivers for your video card!(174.74) WHQL Also a link to your 3dmark06 score might further help in diagnosing the problem.

Cheers!
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Mine is 32-Bit so it is only 169.25
 
Run 3dmark06 with default settings then submit your results and post a link to them here and perhaps we can see if antyhing is out of order.
 
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It could be his PSU. Or Cool'n'Quiet is on and he's running at like 1.5ghz. But I don't know if NZXT PSUs are good... Do you have an older card (like perhaps a X1900XT or so) and test 3DMark06 with it?
 
Any other suggestions? I'm going to go home after work and try it at 2GB of RAM and see. I want to see if it makes a huge difference between 2GB and 4GB on 32-bit.
 
sirsaechao said:
Any other suggestions? I'm going to go home after work and try it at 2GB of RAM and see. I want to see if it makes a huge difference between 2GB and 4GB on 32-bit.
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It won't make any difference. On 32-bit you aren't seeing a good chunk of that extra 2GB anyway, and individual programs are limited to 2GB max to begin with. So unless you have a background program running that both eats up tons of RAM *and* is staying active by using the CPU and accessing its RAM to keep windows from paging it (in which case that program would be why your score sucks :D), you won't see any difference at all.

You don't have like AA or AF enabled in the control panel or something like that, do you? Or is VSync enabled?
 
ocellaris said:
Without something like 3DMark to produce a synthetic (but easily compared) result, its likely he never would have realized his system was running like total ass.
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Unless, of course, all his games run great and it is just 3dmark that is screwed up, in which case he is wasting his time trying to fix something that is not broken.
 
Here is what I discovered. My MB only supports AM2 and Phenom needs AM2+. Is this my problem? If so, what are my options?
 
sirsaechao said:
Here is what I discovered. My MB only supports AM2 and Phenom needs AM2+. Is this my problem? If so, what are my options?
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Its working, isn't it? :p No, its not a problem. You will want to make sure you have the latest BIOS, though.
 
sirsaechao said:
Here is what I discovered. My MB only supports AM2 and Phenom needs AM2+. Is this my problem? If so, what are my options?
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Well since it is not an AM2+ mobo you cannot have the full quad core experience. your mobo will not support the high speeds that the new quad core produce - making it impossible to try and overclock. Even a bios update will not help, it will only make it so that you can boot up your machine (which you dont seem to be having that problem). I suggest getting a new AM2+ mobo.
 
kllrnohj said:
Its working, isn't it? :p No, its not a problem. You will want to make sure you have the latest BIOS, though.
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Yes it is working but not as expected or its potential...I will check CPUZ when I get home to see if I have the latest BIOS.

Wikipedia:

Socket AM2+ is a CPU socket, which is the immediate successor to Socket AM2 that is currently used in several AMD processors such as Athlon 64 X2. Socket AM2+ is a mid-migration from Socket AM2 to Socket AM3 and is fully compatible with Socket AM2, so processors designed for Socket AM2 will work on Socket AM2+ motherboards and vice versa.

Socket AM2+ has some differences however that will be used in AM2+ chips, there are two main features in Socket AM2+ not in Socket AM2:

HyperTransport 3.0 operating at up to 2.6 GHz
Split power planes: one for the CPU cores, and the other for the Integrated Memory controller (IMC). This will improve power savings, especially with integrated graphics, if the CPU cores are in sleep mode but the IMC is still active.
AMD confirmed that AM2 processors will work in AM2+ motherboards and AM2+ processors will work on AM2 motherboards. However, due to the lack of support of HyperTransport 3.0 and separated power planes in Socket AM2 motherboards, AM2+ chips will be limited to the specifications of Socket AM2 (HyperTransport 2.0 at the speed of 1 GHz, one power plane for both Cores and IMC). AM2 chips will not benefit from faster HyperTransport and separated power planes on AM2+ motherboards as they do not support them, AM2+ motherboard then fall back to compatibility mode using AM2 specifications.

According to confirmations from AMD, Socket AM2+ will have a compatibility path with Socket AM3, AM3 processors will work in AM2+ motherboards; however, AM2+ processors will not be compatible with AM3 motherboards.
 
You seem to have a multitude of problems. #1 - You don't know which mobo is compatible with your CPU. #2 - You're using some old drivers. http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_174.74.html

Go here. This may only be 'beta' drivers, however you'll see a significant jump in FPS (probably 10-20%)
#3 - You're trying to compare your pc to others. You have to ask yourself, is your pc fast enough for YOU. 3dmark is great for testing from 1 upgrade/tweak to another, but poor for comparing 1 pc to another.
 
djgizmo said:
You seem to have a multitude of problems. #1 - You don't know which mobo is compatible with your CPU. #2 - You're using some old drivers. http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_174.74.html

Go here. This may only be 'beta' drivers, however you'll see a significant jump in FPS (probably 10-20%)
#3 - You're trying to compare your pc to others. You have to ask yourself, is your pc fast enough for YOU. 3dmark is great for testing from 1 upgrade/tweak to another, but poor for comparing 1 pc to another.
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I finally found the 32-Bit under Beta... As for the MoBo...I made a mistake on ordering from iBUYPOWER. They had it as an option and I thought it was AM2+ and it isn't.
 
sirsaechao said:
Yes it is working but not as expected or its potential...I will check CPUZ when I get home to see if I have the latest BIOS.

Wikipedia:

Socket AM2+ is a CPU socket, which is the immediate successor to Socket AM2 that is currently used in several AMD processors such as Athlon 64 X2. Socket AM2+ is a mid-migration from Socket AM2 to Socket AM3 and is fully compatible with Socket AM2, so processors designed for Socket AM2 will work on Socket AM2+ motherboards and vice versa.

Socket AM2+ has some differences however that will be used in AM2+ chips, there are two main features in Socket AM2+ not in Socket AM2:

HyperTransport 3.0 operating at up to 2.6 GHz
Split power planes: one for the CPU cores, and the other for the Integrated Memory controller (IMC). This will improve power savings, especially with integrated graphics, if the CPU cores are in sleep mode but the IMC is still active.
AMD confirmed that AM2 processors will work in AM2+ motherboards and AM2+ processors will work on AM2 motherboards. However, due to the lack of support of HyperTransport 3.0 and separated power planes in Socket AM2 motherboards, AM2+ chips will be limited to the specifications of Socket AM2 (HyperTransport 2.0 at the speed of 1 GHz, one power plane for both Cores and IMC). AM2 chips will not benefit from faster HyperTransport and separated power planes on AM2+ motherboards as they do not support them, AM2+ motherboard then fall back to compatibility mode using AM2 specifications.

According to confirmations from AMD, Socket AM2+ will have a compatibility path with Socket AM3, AM3 processors will work in AM2+ motherboards; however, AM2+ processors will not be compatible with AM3 motherboards.
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Power saving via Split Power Planes won't hurt your FPS, so no loss there.The HyperTransport being bumped up to 2.6ghz won't do squat either, at least not from what I've seen. I dropped mine to 200mhz from 1ghz (weird BIOS glitch - long story) and saw zero loss in performance. HyperTransport isn't affecting your score.

Well since it is not an AM2+ mobo you cannot have the full quad core experience. your mobo will not support the high speeds that the new quad core produce - making it impossible to try and overclock. Even a bios update will not help, it will only make it so that you can boot up your machine (which you dont seem to be having that problem). I suggest getting a new AM2+ mobo.
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He will still get a "full" quad core experience (as AM2 vs. AM2+ doesn't limit the cores), and the chips will still run at full speed (except HyperTransport - which won't affect 3dmark). AM2 won't limit the multiplier of an AM2+ CPU, so there really isn't any reason to jump to a new AM2+ motherboard...
 
kllrnohj said:
Power saving via Split Power Planes won't hurt your FPS, so no loss there.The HyperTransport being bumped up to 2.6ghz won't do squat either, at least not from what I've seen. I dropped mine to 200mhz from 1ghz (weird BIOS glitch - long story) and saw zero loss in performance. HyperTransport isn't affecting your score.



He will still get a "full" quad core experience (as AM2 vs. AM2+ doesn't limit the cores), and the chips will still run at full speed (except HyperTransport - which won't affect 3dmark). AM2 won't limit the multiplier of an AM2+ CPU, so there really isn't any reason to jump to a new AM2+ motherboard...
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What do you reckon is my problem?
 
Do you have a game like COD4 or HL2 or Crysis to run a benchmark on?? It may just be your 3dmark messing up its not a good way to bench your system. I would try a game and compare it to others to see if the decrease in performance is related to the app or if its the system thats giving you problems.
 
Yep...I checked the cables.

I only play WoW at the moment. With full setting...I get about 30-50 fps. I would think I can get more since my sister's b/f is running a 4400+ w/ 265MB 8600 GT, 3GB RAM and get about the same.
 
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