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3DMark 2005 released!

AMD T-type said:
No Vivo here, still beat your score without the "fix", and no flash

I can see where you're coming from though, you only like benchmarks when your card can beat an ATI, makes sense :rolleyes:
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Just the other day I was debating with myself on what exactly utopia entailed. I was trying to decide if executing people because of their stupidity was a moral and justifiable thing to do.

Thank you for justifying it.

What a spaz, my gt, his gt, winnie the pooh's gt kills your Pro in those strange fantastical things we like to call...*GASP!* games.

Actually, now that you mention it, your Pro beating my GT which is OCed to near Ultra Extreme levels is a RED FUCKING FLAG. A Pro beating an UE. Ya, that'll be a cold day in hell.
 
Actually, with volt modding the 12 pipe cards, most of them do outpreform the 6800 ultra extreme when the core hits around 630... Which isn't that difficult to do on water cooling.
 
Heres mine:

3dMark 05 score: 4789
CPU: Athlon 64 3500+
Vid Card: ATI X800 XT PE
1 gig pc3500 DDR

Is my score a bit low for my rig?

EDIT:

Second try with hot-fix drivers and overdrive turned on...

3dmark 05 score: 5888
 
The Batman said:
Just the other day I was debating with myself on what exactly utopia entailed. I was trying to decide if executing people because of their stupidity was a moral and justifiable thing to do.

Thank you for justifying it.

What a spaz, my gt, his gt, winnie the pooh's gt kills your Pro in those strange fantastical things we like to call...*GASP!* games.

Actually, now that you mention it, your Pro beating my GT which is OCed to near Ultra Extreme levels is a RED FUCKING FLAG. A Pro beating an UE. Ya, that'll be a cold day in hell.
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wow, i have no idea what to reply to this post...there's just so much to say that i can't put it in to words on how rediculous your post is. You want him dead because of a benchmark where his card beats your card? wow, i can't really put it into words. I think you need to take a step back and look how worked up your getting over a simple program. I can't believe how much that bothers you.
 
Not posting my score for want of saving embarassment ;)

But I had to comment to say "OMFG" about the nature scene.
Holy jesus.

I would cry tears of utter happiness were a game to come out looking like that.
Unreal Engine 3?
 
Drakensoul said:
Not posting my score for want of saving embarassment ;)

But I had to comment to say "OMFG" about the nature scene.
Holy jesus.

I would cry tears of utter happiness were a game to come out looking like that.
Unreal Engine 3?
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UE3 runs about 20 FPS on a 6800U, so the 3DMark05 is a good staple example of what UE3 looks like. I expect it to look as good.
 
Yeah, Where did everyone get the Catalyst 4.11 drivers? Looks like everyone is using the 6.14.10.6490
 
Yeah. You've got the powers ..
These are so great scores ever seen !
I didn't download 3DMARK05 yet,
I scared about how many low score shows to me with my computer..

How about Radeon9600XT ? and overclocked Radeon 9550pe? :eek:
 
rageworx said:
Yeah. You've got the powers ..
These are so great scores ever seen !
I didn't download 3DMARK05 yet,
I scared about how many low score shows to me with my computer..

How about Radeon9600XT ? and overclocked Radeon 9550pe? :eek:
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the 9600XT actly beats the 5950Ultra
 
Drakensoul said:
But I had to comment to say "OMFG" about the nature scene.
Holy jesus.

I would cry tears of utter happiness were a game to come out looking like that.
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I so want games to look like that stuff
 
The Batman said:
That's very low. I get almost a 1000 more at the same settings. And I've got a stock A64 3200+.
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Really...well...something is amiss then....yes?

Let us compare, do you have a link to your score so I can compare numbers....? And what drivers are you running? If I can find a reason I am going to fresh install everything...

What 3dm03 scores do you get? I get @12,200
 
Just the other day I was debating with myself on what exactly utopia entailed. I was trying to decide if executing people because of their stupidity was a moral and justifiable thing to do.

Thank you for justifying it.

What a spaz, my gt, his gt, winnie the pooh's gt kills your Pro in those strange fantastical things we like to call...*GASP!* games.

Actually, now that you mention it, your Pro beating my GT which is OCed to near Ultra Extreme levels is a RED FUCKING FLAG. A Pro beating an UE. Ya, that'll be a cold day in hell.
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:eek: Holy Jeebus Batman! you need to chill out your talking about him spazzing as you sit there all steamed up about his beating yours lol
 
plink said:
Heres mine:

3dMark 05 score: 4789
CPU: Athlon 64 3500+
Vid Card: ATI X800 XT PE
1 gig pc3500 DDR

Is my score a bit low for my rig?
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YES. My X800 pro in my sig scores over 5200.
 
The Batman said:
Just the other day I was debating with myself on what exactly utopia entailed. I was trying to decide if executing people because of their stupidity was a moral and justifiable thing to do.

Thank you for justifying it.

What a spaz, my gt, his gt, winnie the pooh's gt kills your Pro in those strange fantastical things we like to call...*GASP!* games.

Actually, now that you mention it, your Pro beating my GT which is OCed to near Ultra Extreme levels is a RED FUCKING FLAG. A Pro beating an UE. Ya, that'll be a cold day in hell.
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Lamer describes you perfectly.
 
DooKey said:
YES. My X800 pro in my sig scores over 5200.
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With some veeeeeeryyyyy questionable drivers that show very little if any gain over previous versions....in actual games.
 
The Batman said:
Then let me give you 2.

1) XTPE sees on average 1200 point increase. The almost exact XT only sees a 400 point increase.
2) GI is disabled and non-selectable. So how is 3D05 running under SM2b mode when FC 1.2 SM2b crashes to desktop.

And I only got a 100 point increase when going from the 66.51s to the 66.70s. 100 point increases aren't big shits, 1200 is however.

I think you need to read up some.
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Look at rancor's post above yours:
rancor said:
AGP (8.07 ATi)

ATi Radeon X800 XT "PE" 5.817

ATi Radeon X800 XT 5.494
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You and rancor seem to be in the same camp, so I have no reason to believe that you wouldn't believe the results he posted. You claim the XT increases 400 points with the new drivers, and the XT PE increases 1200 points. Now let's run the math:

X800XT PE (4.9, extrapolated) = 5800 - 1200 = 4600
X800XT (4.9, extrapolated) = 5500 - 400 = 5100

Your claim, then, is that the XT PE actually scores 500 points LESS than the XT's with the 4.9's! Do you think before posting, or does it all just explode out of you like diarrhea? Because honestly, the majority of your posts are about as welcome and useful to most people as just that. For someone who constantly badgers others to use "the facts", maybe it's time to heed your own advice. :rolleyes:
 
I belive the memory bug fix would have gotten them around the 5000 mark, and the extra tweaking of the drivers gave the other 800 and odd points, which seems to be reasonable. Not saying they are illigal things ATi did, but very questionable as they don't seem to effect any games or other then the first level of 3dmark05
 
With rig in the sig below:

2518 with 61.77 drivers
3441 with 66.70 drivers

Interesting. Though the new drivers did fix some graphical glitches in the forest portion of the run.
 
rancor said:
I belive the memory bug fix would have gotten them around the 5000 mark, and the extra tweaking of the drivers gave the other 800 and odd points, which seems to be reasonable. Not saying they are illigal things ATi did, but very questionable as they don't seem to effect any games or other then the first level of 3dmark05
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Not true at all. I gained 5fps in doom3 at 1024x768 on my x800 pro stock. Gained even more going to higher resolutions and at different aa/af levels. Can't wait to see what I gain with Catalyst AI.
 
rancor said:
I belive the memory bug fix would have gotten them around the 5000 mark, and the extra tweaking of the drivers gave the other 800 and odd points, which seems to be reasonable. Not saying they are illigal things ATi did, but very questionable as they don't seem to effect any games or other then the first level of 3dmark05
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Speaking of this, I have not heard of any confirmed Doom3 increases due to this driver. There should be some as Doom3 does use the memory. Anyone notice an increase? Brent?
 
usarnaem said:
Not true at all. I gained 5fps in doom3 at 1024x768 on my x800 pro stock. Gained even more going to higher resolutions and at different aa/af levels. Can't wait to see what I gain with Catalyst AI.
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5 frames in Doom3, first of 3dmark is not ogl benchmark! And it is very true, I've tested, and many others have noted that aswell. I noticed like 2-4 fps increase, not much. But in all other Dx games its was detrimental, not to mention in 3dmark03 aswell.
 
kcthebrewer said:
Speaking of this, I have not heard of any confirmed Doom3 increases due to this driver. There should be some as Doom3 does use the memory. Anyone notice an increase? Brent?
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i haven't tried the hotfix drivers in doom3
 
truffle00 said:
Look at rancor's post above yours:


You and rancor seem to be in the same camp, so I have no reason to believe that you wouldn't believe the results he posted. You claim the XT increases 400 points with the new drivers, and the XT PE increases 1200 points. Now let's run the math:

X800XT PE (4.9, extrapolated) = 5800 - 1200 = 4600
X800XT (4.9, extrapolated) = 5500 - 400 = 5100

Your claim, then, is that the XT PE actually scores 500 points LESS than the XT's with the 4.9's! Do you think before posting, or does it all just explode out of you like diarrhea? Because honestly, the majority of your posts are about as welcome and useful to most people as just that. For someone who constantly badgers others to use "the facts", maybe it's time to heed your own advice. :rolleyes:
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I took my figures from a poster here at hard with an XT. He got around an extra 400 points with the hotfix. I tend to take the word of posters here over the words of other forum posters/other websites. Incidently, those XTPE scores are rather low [5800], most XTPEs are doing over 6100-6500 [might change on image quality settings and such]. Maybe they're OCed, but the posters aren't mentioning their clocks in their sigs so I guess I assumed it was at stock. Also, your XT score of 5500 is defintely low. I hit that on my GT. Next time maybe you should double check your figures instead of posting to a website as proof for something that is readily available to everyone. You're awfully good at twisting math though, maybe you should look for a job as a statician.

As for the death comment, Jesus people, I was joking. Ya I should have put in a smiley and for that I apologize, but I was on my way to work so I didn't get to proof it before I hit post. Yeesh, string a guy up will ya. It just pissed me off that somebody was trying to drum up a synthetic as more important that gaming. Even with Hard fighting that good fight, alot of people are stuck on marks. I myself can't fathom it.

And it still doesn't change the fact that the XTPE is seeing a larger boost than the XT.

So instead of beating the drums of war maybe you guys could get off your asses and do something constructive, like maybe bench a bunch of GAMES and see if you're getting a large boost in them.

Ack, that's right, you'd much rather beat me up for playing devil's advocate. Because driver releases always bring about an extra 1000 3dmark points. That's totally normal, happens all the time. Give me a fucking break. :rolleyes:

On a light note, it's nice to see Hard giving Futuremark the bird. Hell ya. :D

usarnaem said:
Not true at all. I gained 5fps in doom3 at 1024x768 on my x800 pro stock. Gained even more going to higher resolutions and at different aa/af levels. Can't wait to see what I gain with Catalyst AI.
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Hm, I gained 12fps going from 66.32s to 66.70s in D3 [16x12 no AA]. However, I only gained about a 100 points in 3dmark05. I don't think you can point to one as validation for the other. Especially since one is OGL and the other is DX9. Bench Far Cry, Halo, and any other DX9 heavy game you can get a hold of. Those results are what we should be interested in.
 
The Batman said:
That's totally normal, happens all the time. Give me a fucking break. :rolleyes:
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Of course it's normal. Before purchasing this x800 I owned a ti-4200. Some detonator releases would increase 3dmark01 scores a few hundred points, some would lower them a few hundred points.
 
usarnaem said:
Of course it's normal. Before purchasing this x800 I owned a ti-4200. Some detonator releases would increase 3dmark01 scores a few hundred points, some would lower them a few hundred points.
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Okay, we're talking kinda nowish. I've tested all of the Forceware leaks [well most of them], and at best I would gain or loose a 100 points in 03. Granted if I went from say 61.21s to 66.70s I might game a few hundred but that's not the point. And a few hundreed points is still nowhere near the 1000 points some people are seeing.

Secondly, that was 3Dmark01.

Thirdly, wasn't Nvidia cheating on benchs alot back during those days? :p

Saying "oh ya it's perfeclty normal, Nvidia used to do it back in day [when they got bitch-slapped for being assbags]" isn't doing much to reassure me.
 
Damn it.... :mad:
Timedout.gif

I got owned by W1zzard's mirror...
 
With rig in SIG:

3DMark 5387
CPU Mark 5295

(Doom 3 Timdemo1, 1280x1024-High: 64.9 FPS)
 
The Batman said:
Okay, we're talking kinda nowish. I've tested all of the Forceware leaks [well most of them], and at best I would gain or loose a 100 points in 03. Granted if I went from say 61.21s to 66.70s I might game a few hundred but that's not the point. And a few hundreed points is still nowhere near the 1000 points some people are seeing.

Secondly, that was 3Dmark01.

Thirdly, wasn't Nvidia cheating on benchs alot back during those days? :p

Saying "oh ya it's perfeclty normal, Nvidia used to do it back in day [when they got bitch-slapped for being assbags]" isn't doing much to reassure me.
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forgot to mention ATi cheating aswell?
 
rancor said:
forgot to mention ATi cheating aswell?
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Everytime ATI cheated God killed a kitten. :D

Better?

Edit: Ah here's a great post that perfectly sums up my :confused: in regards to the hotfix.

http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1026679424&postcount=90

1300 points. That's big. Doesn't it stand to reason that people should be seeing HUGE gains in games? I mean really, somebody stop me if my logic is off here.

Edit2: I found this funny.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=19126
 
With a x800 PCI-E, I got 5,248 with the Cat 4.8's, and 5,545 with the Cat 4.9's + hotfix on the system in my sig.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=23339

If there's a 1,200-1,400 point 'cheat' in the hotfix, I sure didn't get it.

Edit: My sig isn't working. :(

P4 3.4 GHz (LGA 775)
Asus P5AD2 Premium (Intel 925x)
1GB Corsair DDR2 PC2-5400
Sapphire X800 XT PCI-E
2x WD 74GB Raptors, 2x WD 250GB 2500JD's
 
i gained 950 in 05 going from the the offical 61.77 to the 66.70
 
Elios said:
i gained 950 in 05 going from the the offical 61.77 to the 66.70
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Well ya, you skipped about 15 drivers inbetween. 61.80, 62.20/22, 65.62/73/76, 66.00/02/10/31/32/51/60/70. I probabley missed a few from there as well. Nvidia's been a busy body. If each driver gave you an extra 75 points you'd be set [and I know I missed a few in there, I never bothered with the 62s myself and skipped right to the 65s from 61.77 so my knowledge of them is rather limited].
 
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