390X coming soon few weeks

if the 390X is as good as advertised then what is Nvidia going to do?...wait for Pascal?
 
5150Joker said:
No I'm just saying in general. I read it in comments all the time in various threads and discussions. The 390x with 8 GB HBM + AIO may be the first AMD card that is actually worth $700+ IMO so AMD would have to be nuts to price it any lower.
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the last page was about the 4gb air version for $550, not the 8GB CLC version.
 
polonyc2 said:
if the 390X is as good as advertised then what is Nvidia going to do?...wait for Pascal?
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They will do what they've always done... Cut their prices.
And more recently, release a new Ti card.

AMD hasn't done anything for TWO YEARS! The 390X better be a destructive force.
 
5150Joker said:
8 GB HBM + AIO and near Titan X performance and people are delusional enough to think it'll cost $500? Get real. This thing will at least cost $700 if not a lot more. Cut down version may be in the $500-$600 range.
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lol that's what I said re the $700 part. Even gave a breakdown of why $700 could potentially make sense, depending on how expensive HBM is exactly.

The Mac said:
the last page was about the 4gb air version for $550, not the 8GB CLC version.
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I may have contributed to the confusion. :eek:
 
5150Joker said:
8 GB HBM + AIO and near Titan X performance and people are delusional enough to think it'll cost $500? Get real. This thing will at least cost $700 if not a lot more. Cut down version may be in the $500-$600 range.
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I'm guessing a minimum of $649, one slot above their old $549 max.
I could see upto $749-$799 for the WCE but no more than that.

I could see a lineup like this if the performance and power savings are there.

$749-$799 390x WCE w/ 2x8pins and much higher stock clocks.+Titan X ~300w TDP
$649 390x 8GB w/ 6pin + 8pin ~Titan X ~260-275w
$549 390 8GB ~GTX980Ti ~225-250w
$499 390 4GB(?) ~225-250w
$399-449 380x (384bit) ~GTX980 175-200w
$279-$329 380 (384bit)~GTX970 160-180w
$229-$249 370x (256bit) ~280x 140-150w
$179-$199 370 (256bit) ~GTX960 ~110-130w
$149 360x (128bit) ~7850 ~100w
$99-$119 360 (128bit) ~260x <100w
 
Considering the 8 GB and CLC are still premium features I hope we can see a sub-$600 "Sane Edition" for us regular folk. I don't need 8 GB nor water and I certainly don't want to spend $700+ if I don't have to. If AMD's response to my demands are "Buy our Hawaii refresh" then we might have a problem. I'd much rather buy Maxwell tbh. And if that's their response, I should have bought a 970 in September.

$749-$799 390x WCE w/ 2x8pins and much higher stock clocks.+Titan X ~300w TDP
$649 390x 8GB w/ 6pin + 8pin ~Titan X ~260-275w
$549 390 8GB ~GTX980Ti ~225-250w
$499 390 4GB(?) ~225-250w
$399-449 380x (384bit) ~GTX980 175-200w
$279-$329 380 (384bit)~GTX970 160-180w
$229-$249 370x (256bit) ~280x 140-150w
$179-$199 370 (256bit) ~GTX960 ~110-130w
$149 360x (128bit) ~7850 ~100w
$99-$119 360 (128bit) ~260x <100w
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but damn that's a lot of tiers.
AMD needs to consolidate. The water editions and 4 / 8 GB models just add to the mess.

A $500 cut Fiji would be very tempting, especially given what happened with the 290. Anyway, quality post as always. Looks good to me, hope AMD is listening.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
I'm not saying you're wrong, but damn that's a lot of tiers.
AMD needs to consolidate. The water editions and 4 / 8 GB models just add to the mess.

A $500 cut Fiji would be very tempting, especially given what happened with the 290. Anyway, quality post as always. Looks good to me, hope AMD is listening.
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Almost pure speculation on my part. I've heard 3-4 new ASICs with "2 filler cards" that are rebrands, obviously nothing can be confirmed.

That sort of lineup would require a decent performance/watt bump by being able to keep the same performance with a smaller bus size compared to previous GCN iterations.
While it is probably slightly optimistic, it is doable IMO.
 
I too really hope they release a CLC-free version. I'm throwing a block on it either way so a CLC is just wasting my money for no good reason.

Then again I'm waiting for the Lightning version so that should probably be taken care of. I just hope MSI doesn't "forget" to design an air-cooled version just so they could charge more lol
 
LordEC911 said:
I'm guessing a minimum of $649, one slot above their old $549 max.
I could see upto $749-$799 for the WCE but no more than that.

I could see a lineup like this if the performance and power savings are there.

$749-$799 390x WCE w/ 2x8pins and much higher stock clocks.+Titan X ~300w TDP
$649 390x 8GB w/ 6pin + 8pin ~Titan X ~260-275w
$549 390 8GB ~GTX980Ti ~225-250w
$499 390 4GB(?) ~225-250w
$399-449 380x (384bit) ~GTX980 175-200w
$279-$329 380 (384bit)~GTX970 160-180w
$229-$249 370x (256bit) ~280x 140-150w
$179-$199 370 (256bit) ~GTX960 ~110-130w
$149 360x (128bit) ~7850 ~100w
$99-$119 360 (128bit) ~260x <100w
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Looks realistic if they manage to do a full tier release. At least it would be logical to approach it like that assuming the performance holds up.
 
The Mac said:
i dont see a 4GB 390x in there...
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Well #1, I don't think they would limit their flagship to 4GB.
#2 If they are really doing an interleaved HBM stack, that means a custom base logic layer.

My question is, would they really want to design/manufacture two different logic layers just to have cut-down memory?
Basically I'm saying, if they are really going with 8GB HBM, I'm thinking we may not see 4GB HBM on the 390x/390.
Two different logic layers would only make sense if they could reuse one on a different ASIC that has higher volume, maybe rather than a 384bit 380x/380 we see a 4GB HBM 380x/380? That seems unlikely but if they clock the HBM down to 800mhz that would be 410Gb/s compared to Hawaii's 320Gb/s which is a 28% increase.
 
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The last slide leak said "Up to 8 GB" for the 390X so there will most certainly be both 4 GB and 8 GB models, assuming the slides are real. I'd say it's more likely the 390 will only exist in 4 GB, while the 390X has both 4 and 8 GB models.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
The last slide leak said "Up to 8 GB" for the 390X so there will most certainly be both 4 GB and 8 GB models, assuming the slides are real. I'd say it's more likely the 390 will only exist in 4 GB, while the 390X has both 4 and 8 GB models.
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Good point. Certainly could be possible.
Just throwing my thoughts out there.

Edit- Now I know why I thought the opposite of what you are saying. Your flagship has less VRAM than the 980Ti when it hits...
You give consumers more VRAM at the same performance and pricepoint = 390 8GB, or the same performance with less VRAM at a lower pricepoint = 390 4GB but performs better than GTX980 4GB.
 
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I just realized I have never owned anything ATI/AMD. Went from

fx5500->7800gt->8800gt->GTX 260->GTX 970.

Hopefully I won't be disappointed with my first AMD card. The numbers are looking really good, and the 390x may be what makes me jump to 4k.
 
I'm OK with the price. I wont purchase one but i'm not angry about it. If the card is that much faster it's time for AMD to make money for a change. They already gave us really good deals with the 290 and 290x forcing nvidia to drop pricing / release new cards. We can't be angry for them wanting to make nvidia money when they have a superior products.

I think I'm going to ride out my current 290s this gen. I try to wait for a single card that will give me a boost over 2 cards before upgrading these days. My spending got out of hand when I started purchasing the latest and greatest every year.
 
I hope there are good options for those of us we want to use waterblocks. It would suck to have to pay for CLC we don't need, only to throw them away and spend the additional amount on aftermarket waterblocks.
 
Boggins said:
I hope there are good options for those of us we want to use waterblocks. It would suck to have to pay for CLC we don't need, only to throw them away and spend the additional amount on aftermarket waterblocks.
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From the threads I've seen here in the past, someone will buy the CLC back from you when their card fails under a custom loop and they want to make it look stock for the RMA process.:p
 
^THIS

Boggins said:
I hope there are good options for those of us we want to use waterblocks. It would suck to have to pay for CLC we don't need, only to throw them away and spend the additional amount on aftermarket waterblocks.
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I'm almost certain AIB partners will offer air cooled versions. I mean I just can't see Sapphire not throwing their Vapor-X cooler on everything at this point.
 
THUMPer1 said:
I would only buy air cooled anyway.
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As an owner of a hg10 I love it being factory clc

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I have a 970 currently and am looking for a better card. The 980 at the time didn't justify the price but if the rumors about this card indeed true then I'll be selling asap and upgrading. Can't wait to actually have concrete details about this.
 
So I guess reading all this speculation has had an effect on my brain.

Last night I dreamt these cards were released, with these specs:

390X 8GB water-cooled: $1000. Baseline had "Titan X performance" but AMD guaranteed it could OC 150-200MHz core.

390X 4GB air-cooled: $599. No guaranteed OC but much faster than 980.
 
AceCR42 said:
So I guess reading all this speculation has had an effect on my brain.

Last night I dreamt these cards were released, with these specs:

390X 8GB water-cooled: $1000. Baseline had "Titan X performance" but AMD guaranteed it could OC 150-200MHz core.

390X 4GB air-cooled: $599. No guaranteed OC but much faster than 980.
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I'd imagine if the first card was a reality it would just come with that extra 150mhz added onto the standard clock :p
 
Can these come out so i can buy a 290/x for cheaper? thinking about going 2560x1440 or 2560x1080... I really try to stick to reference coolers... I hope the 390 isnt a fuck up like the 290 was... The xfx 7970 isnt cutting it.
 
The old 200 series cards will start dropping a few weeks before launch, likely before AMD even announces anything. So you have to start watching SlickDeals/HotDeals/etc sometime in May.
Prices will probably GO UP for the equivalent Grenada GPU's (or whatever AMD slots in to replace Hawaii).

The 7970 was $200ish when the 280X launched @ $299.
 
The Mac said:
thats assuming they havent completely flushed inventory
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Are you saying AMD's evil plan to sit on old cards for 3+ months is actually going to work?
I'm excited for new cards but if we see $200 290X's in the coming months, I'm all over that shit.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
Are you saying AMD's evil plan to sit on old cards for 3+ months is actually going to work?
I'm excited for new cards but if we see $200 290X's in the coming months, I'm all over that shit.
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What he was referring to was AMD report that they were not going to release anything new to help clear the channels of backlogged inventory. This was more to CPUs I'm sure than GPUs. So if that is the case there may B little inventory of 200 series to reduce, maybe negating the need.
 
Gibbo over at OCUK has sorta kinda confirmed thats what they were doing and that its been ready for a while, and they are holding off to clear inventory.

He couched it as a personal opinion, but since he runs one of Britains largest enthuiest etailers, im inclined to take his "opinion" as closer to the truth.

There was also some funky Italian site that said he had inside sources at some of the AIBs that implied the leaked performance numbers for the 390x WCE are actually low.

Now THAT would be interesting.

50% over 290x is LOW?

Jebus...

edit: source - https://translate.google.com/transl...-aspetta-che-i-driver-siano-maturi&edit-text=
 
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If you read AMD's Q4 earnings call transcript, you'll see their top priority for Q1 2015 is still to normalize inventory.
 
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