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Xaeon said:Looks cool. What are the 2 ports there?
what did you expect it to look like....
Xaeon said:Looks cool. What are the 2 ports there?
this:MrGuvernment said:what did you expect it to look like....
MrGuvernment said:what did you expect it to look like....
junehhan said:It doesn't look very exciting, but I don't mind. If this thing is really priced at what the rumors are saying, i'm definately buying one as soon as they are for sale. At that price, I won't be terribly angry if HD-DVD doesn't win the format war.
NulloModo said:It would have been nice if MS found a way to make it snap onto the 360 chassis so it all looked like one unit.
Asian Dub Foundation said:so they are not making new 360s with it built in?
heh, i was doing just the opposite. i hope that Blu-Ray sucks it -- long and slow, until HD-DVD is the winner, and not because i'm a choose-up-sides'er, as i do plan on owning a PS3.NulloModo said:The price is good, and I have to say I am tempted, but I am going to have to hold back. I really want HD-DVD to lose the format war, so I guess I have to do everything I can not to support it.
JethroXP said:No, doing so would jack up the price, and it's only for movie playback, no games will be using it.
MrGuvernment said:Yet. Games will use it eventually. especially with them having HD resoltuions, DVD's are at their limits for HD resolution video so imagine gameplay as well.
Darakian said:No, that would segment the market. Plus microsoft has stated they will not have HD DVD games (I think).
NulloModo said:The price is good, and I have to say I am tempted, but I am going to have to hold back. I really want HD-DVD to lose the format war, so I guess I have to do everything I can not to support it.
Xaeon said:Looks cool. What are the 2 ports there?
I agree totally. This sucks. There is a reason almost all home theater equipment comes in the same width, and are generally stackable. Now I understand this is a gaming system, but the HD-DVD unit is a home theater component. Very poor design on MS' part. I hope they eventually offer an integrated version.Rash said:ok lets stack loads of units around the tv that arent similar in size, not for me thanks, too many wires, too many plug sockets used, not tidy enough for under my tv
Nuzzles said:Now all they need is seperate output for it, so you can watch a movie on a different TV while you game on another.![]()
Originally Posted by NulloModo
The price is good, and I have to say I am tempted, but I am going to have to hold back. I really want HD-DVD to lose the format war, so I guess I have to do everything I can not to support it.
heh, i was doing just the opposite. i hope that Blu-Ray sucks it -- long and slow, until HD-DVD is the winner, and not because i'm a choose-up-sides'er, as i do plan on owning a PS3.
Clearly you don't own a decent-size HDTV.MH Knights said:I hope both formats fail. They are both only marginal improvements over DVD and exist mainly to get consumers to buy the same movies over again. Five bucks says that in five years both camps try and release new formats and start all this crap again.
For the record, I am waiting to see if Holographic storage actually works. Like HVD.
On topic, seeing as how I am not interested in HD-DVD, this isn't all that exciting. It looks okay and the ports on the back are a nice touch. Maybe that cover is where the ventilation will go? What sort of noise/heat will this create is a big question too.
MH Knights said:I hope both formats fail. They are both only marginal improvements over DVD and exist mainly to get consumers to buy the same movies over again. Five bucks says that in five years both camps try and release new formats and start all this crap again.
For the record, I am waiting to see if Holographic storage actually works. Like HVD.
On topic, seeing as how I am not interested in HD-DVD, this isn't all that exciting. It looks okay and the ports on the back are a nice touch. Maybe that cover is where the ventilation will go? What sort of noise/heat will this create is a big question too.
Rash said:ok lets stack loads of units around the tv that arent similar in size, not for me thanks, too many wires, too many plug sockets used, not tidy enough for under my tv
DVD resolution is 720x480 interlaced, meaning over 172,000 pixels per half-frame.NulloModo said:There is an absolutely huge difference. DVDs are all encoded in 480i, and one frame of a DVD movie has typically 76,800 'pixels'. Blu-Ray discs can be encoded all the way up to 1080p, one frame at 1080p is 2073600 pixels, or 27x the picture information. Even taking your standard 720p HD television, that is 921,600 pixels or 12x the information.
As for real world scenarios: it looks absolutely incredible compared to most DVD. Now, you can get a good image off of DVD with a high end player and a HDTV with good upconversion, or with a scaler, but it still isn't quite the level of HD content.
The Holographic disc has been vaporware for almost a decade, if it was possible for someone to make that thing, it would have gotten major backing by now. Blu-Ray can scale up to 200Gb per disc, and that sounds like plenty to me.
NulloModo said:There is an absolutely huge difference. DVDs are all encoded in 480i, and one frame of a DVD movie has typically 76,800 'pixels'. Blu-Ray discs can be encoded all the way up to 1080p, one frame at 1080p is 2073600 pixels, or 27x the picture information. Even taking your standard 720p HD television, that is 921,600 pixels or 12x the information.
As for real world scenarios: it looks absolutely incredible compared to most DVD. Now, you can get a good image off of DVD with a high end player and a HDTV with good upconversion, or with a scaler, but it still isn't quite the level of HD content.
The Holographic disc has been vaporware for almost a decade, if it was possible for someone to make that thing, it would have gotten major backing by now. Blu-Ray can scale up to 200Gb per disc, and that sounds like plenty to me.
kumquat said:Clearly you don't own a decent-size HDTV.
The difference between movies on HBOHD or HDNet Movies and an upconverting DVD player is night and day. Huge, obvious difference, even to a casual observer. My girlfriend asked me a few weeks ago why the movies on HBO look so much better than the DVD player.
If you say that HD-DVD is a "marginal" improvement over DVD, then I guess you'd also agree that gaming at 1600x1200 is a "marginal" improvement over gaming at 640x480.
Go look at some of the reviews of HD-DVD. The image quality is very, very noticable on a large TV. You forgot to mention the size of your TV. This has a huge affect on seeing a visual different. That 32" HD CRT isn't going to see much of a difference between 420i and 720p.MH Knights said:I own a CRT set that does 480p and 1080i. I have no plans (actually no money) on upgrading any time soon. And there are many out there who are in the same boat. How many people own a set that can do true 1080p? Very, very few. Maybe if SED sets are all they are hyped to be I will get one of those. If I get anything before that I may just get a cheap DLP set.
Also, for a movie to be truely HD it has to be recorded, edited, formated, and played in HD. Most of the movies being released on HD/BDR were made for standard definition and are pretty much just copy and pasted from the DVD. There is only so much upscaling can do for an image.
Oh and Holographic technology is taking off, Hitachi Maxell has already tested it commercially.