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bioallen

bioallen

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ok, for my next project Im going to be working with my same 2.4c for awhile, but soon a 3.2, and the new setup will only be a new mobo, and diff ram. The mobo will be an IC7 and the ram, I want either Mushkin LVL1 2x256 3500 2-3-3 or Corsair XMS 3200 2-3-3. I have read some reviews on the Mushkin, and they say it is really stable, and awesome ram, and the same for the XMS, now the question would be, does anyone have any experience with mushkin 3500 ram. It would seem like the better choice since its faster, but whats your guys take on it. I know that mushkin is awesome ram, and so is Corsair. OH AND BTW IM GONNA OC AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE

Chris
 
I still can't quite understand why people assume RAM runs at it's rated speed all the time. It seems from your post that the timings are the same for both memory. Therefore, at stock speeds for your setup, meaning 400 Mhz DDR, they will be nearly identical. The higher speed RAM will give you more OCing headroom, but if your not overclocking, they will be the same.


For the love of god people...RAM runs at the speed you set in the BIOS....not it's rated speed by magic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I ment to say that I was going to OC but, I forgot thx for being a dicksuck with your worthless information idiot

Chris
 
Well, I just picked up some Kreton Blitz Extreme speed PC3500 2,3,3,7,1T and it's running real nice at 210FSB without a single hiccup. I only paid $92 per stick of 512mb.

I never could understand why people build these killer systems and only stick 512mb in them. I mean WinXP booting up alone almost uses all of the Ram and then you throw in a decent 3D game or something and you are hitting virtual memory which KILLS performance. I haven't figured these people out yet. Crazy people around here. :) :D ;)

Don't say it's not for games, etc. because you would be crazy if you build killer systems for browsing the web.

Point is, you don't have to spend $150-$200 per stick of 512mb memory to get good ram when there are just as good for cheaper.
 
Ah, I got you so I should probably get a Gig, I got ya, Ill look into that ram

Chris
 
Originally posted by bioallen
I ment to say that I was going to OC but, I forgot thx for being a dicksuck with your worthless information idiot

Chris
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I answered your question completely, Dippy. Learn to read a little. Ever stop to think we are getting tired of reading the same damn questions thread after thread? Right as I clicked to respond, I counted the same question and answer in 4 other threads here on the first page.
 
Bioallen

From what I can gather and from what I have read and from what I gather from test, Intel systems seem to benefit more from higher bandwidth (i.e. Pc3500 over PC3200) whereas AMD system seem to benefit more from lower latency (2,3,3, etc.). That's the general tendency from what I can gather.

For an Intel system look for the higher rated memory with the lowest latency you can find.

Yes, not all memory is created equally. You can get PC3500 memory that's rated at 3,4,4,8 and PC3500 rated at 2,3,3,7. Guess which will tend to do better. You can general OC the lower latency stuff more and keep low settings.

When you start getting into PC3700, to get low latency, you will be paying a fortune.

$92 for 512mb PC3500 2,3,3,7,1T isn't bad at all and it's working great in my system.
 
aight scortch, I think that pretty much made up my mind im gonna buy 2 sticks asap =D thx

Chris
 
I only recommend name brand RAM. RAM is pretty much the top issue with computer problems and theres no point in skimping now and paying more later on. Errors are a problem on cheap RAM more so then name brand. Mushkin, Corsair, and Kingston are the best about the only three i'll use. Mushkin is the best and always have been and always will be :p. Their customer service is the highest out there and thats a gigantic huge plus for someone that builds systems for other people.

PC3200 will be plenty fast so just buy whichever is cheaper. Dividers are your friend and people need to get it out of their heads that dividers are going to hurt your performance if you use them. Timings are whats most important after you reach a minimum requirement for bandwidth.
 
answered your question completely, Dippy. Learn to read a little. Ever stop to think we are getting tired of reading the same damn questions thread after thread? Right as I clicked to respond, I counted the same question and answer in 4 other threads here on the first page.
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Technically, your projecting. It's not his fault for posting an average question, it's your fault for wasting your time, reading it and responding. It's a community here, don't try to start a fight when it could easily be avoided by not responding.
 
The thing is, there is ALSO other Ram out there that isn't as well known as Mushkin, Kingston, etc. that works just as well.

How do you think Mushkin, Kingston, etc. got their names related to quality memory to begin with? Exactly, people used it and liked it and started recommending it and word got around.

I HAVE 2 512mb modules of Kreton Blitz Extreme Speed memory and it's working great. I now have my FSB at 221 and the memory is STILL running at 2,3,3,7,1T. It's ran Prime95 stable.

I have had crappy Kingston and I have had good other memory. Kreton is name brand. It has a name on it other than Generic so, it's considered name brand. I consider it quality ram.

You can have quality unknown name brand just as well as you can have known name brand.
 
Im not saying there isn't other good brands out there but Mushkin, Kingston, and Corsair are the top brands that have been proven time and again to work flawlessly. You get bad sticks once in a while with all brands. Thats why you want a brand name with top of the line customer support.

Have you ran your RAM through Memtest86 for 24 hours? Prime95 wont point out if your RAM is causing errors. Prime95 is for overall system stability. If you have a single error in memtest then you've got a bad stick. Just one error in a 8 hour period can cause problems. It all depends on where the error occurs. Errors cause data corruption.

What i mean by name brand is the more expensive brand thats almost always better then the rest of the generic. Generic is anythign that isn't widely used and accepted as being a top brand. Its just like Post cerial. There are lots of other generic brands out there for less money that are pretty much the same thing but the Post cerial is still the best :p.
 
Actually yes, I have used memtest on it. That's why I have been recommending it. It's been performing flawlessly. I really like it better than the Kingston stuff I have had before. I have had some Kingston that wouldn't even run at rated speeds.

Anyway, I posted my opinion and others posted their opinions. I leave it up to the person to decide. I don't just arbitrarily recommend something.

I was just offering a cost effective alternative that actually is good for a change and works as advertised.

I totally understand where you coming from though and agree that most of the less name brand stuff isn't that good but in this case, this stuff seems to be very good quality stuff so far.

I didn't see what chips they used as they had a heatspreader that must be on with adhesive so i didn't want to pushit at the time. I was too excited and wanted to get the system up and running :)
 
I would say that they are Winbond CH-5 chips but they might use something like Samsung and what not. Its hard to tell sometimes especially with brands that aren't real popular cause they just hide it behind the heatspreaders and there aren't reviews being done on em. Some sites list what chips they use for the different speeds but most dont.
 
Originally posted by eli
Technically, your projecting. It's not his fault for posting an average question, it's your fault for wasting your time, reading it and responding. It's a community here, don't try to start a fight when it could easily be avoided by not responding.
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Haha - that is terrible:D

It's sad when one of the top-tier posters is insulted AFTER answering the ramblings of some newb. What is the [H]ard coming to?
 
Originally posted by Scortch
Aye, why I emailed them first to see if they will answer.
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I'm sure they will respond back and tell you that your warranty will be void. It can be a bitch to get those things off sometimes. You might end up damaging the chips on it.

Another reason why i dont recommend him using an off brand RAM is cause he has an Abit IC7 board. Intel Abit boards can be very particular to what RAM they like to run with. I know it says on the Kreton site thats its been tested in an IC7 board but they all say that. And since he has an Abit IC7 and going for a Pentium 4 3.2Ghz theres no reason to skimp on the RAM considering it and the PSU are the most critical parts in the system.
 
Plus if he doesn't know what he's doing it's best that he get some sort of name brand memory, try the Corsair PC3500 sticks I think they're the "most" compantable.
 
Originally posted by djnes
I answered your question completely, Dippy. Learn to read a little. Ever stop to think we are getting tired of reading the same damn questions thread after thread? Right as I clicked to respond, I counted the same question and answer in 4 other threads here on the first page.
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You have a point.. but all I can say is go to another forum, no offense to anyone but [H] is being over populated with n00bs, who dont care to actually read and learn for themselves, they just want everything answered for them...

[_SlaYa_]
 
Originally posted by slaya
You have a point.. but all I can say is go to another forum, no offense to anyone but [H] is being over populated with n00bs, who dont care to actually read and learn for themselves, they just want everything answered for them...

[_SlaYa_]
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Yea General Hardware is pretty much the General Noobs section. There isn't anything wrong with that but thats going to be primarily what its used for. I dont have a problem answering the same questions 10 times a day but some people get tired of it after a while. The Strictly Intel and AMD section are somewhat less noobish and so are alot of the other sections. Of course if you go to the Strictly Intel and AMD section you gotta put up with the ignorant fanboys :p.
 
Originally posted by burningrave101
I'm sure they will respond back and tell you that your warranty will be void. It can be a bitch to get those things off sometimes. You might end up damaging the chips on it.

Another reason why i dont recommend him using an off brand RAM is cause he has an Abit IC7 board. Intel Abit boards can be very particular to what RAM they like to run with. I know it says on the Kreton site thats its been tested in an IC7 board but they all say that. And since he has an Abit IC7 and going for a Pentium 4 3.2Ghz theres no reason to skimp on the RAM considering it and the PSU are the most critical parts in the system.
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No, No, No, I meant that's why I emailed them first to see if they would tell me what chips they are using so I don't have to remove a spreader to find out.
 
If someone is tired of answering the same question day in and day out, then it's quite simple as to what they should do.

STOP ANSWERING THE QUESTION :) :D :)

If you are tired of the same question, then just don't read and answer. That's a LOT better than jumping down someone's throat because they asked a question that others have already asked.

If they would turn the search feature back on in this forum, I am sure it would help reduce some of this.
 
Originally posted by Scortch
If they would turn the search feature back on in this forum, I am sure it would help reduce some of this.
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Yea i've been a moderator and a member of several different large forums and this is the longest i've ever had to go without a search button :( .
 
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