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Anyone have any idea as to when we will be seeing 2tb HDD's or Larger?

I need to buy more space but with the firmware issues with the Seagate 1.5tb im a little hesitant to buy those.
 
I'd hazard to guess by the end of February some manufacturer will introduce a 2TB model, probably Seagate first but who knows. We'll see it when it happens... what the hell are people doing that requires more space - and yes, I know about media servers for HTPC setups, etc but really... I'm curious.

Software doesn't need it, 2TB of music would be more than most music stores even stock or radio stations could possibly play, so it's gotta be video dumping...
 
Oh dear lord how I'm tired of people questioning other peoples use of storage :p

I'd think February is far too soon for a revamp in size. Let's get more than one manufacturer of 1.5 TB drives before we start looking for the next increase.
 
nitrobass24 said:
Anyone have any idea as to when we will be seeing 2tb HDD's or Larger?

I need to buy more space but with the firmware issues with the Seagate 1.5tb im a little hesitant to buy those.
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I daresay other manufacturers will release 1.5TBs or Seagate will fix the 1.5TB problem before 2TBs show up in the retail channel.
 
been waiting for these 2tb drives for a few months now..

gonna need like 3 of them when they finally come out :|
 
Will manufactures just cut the crap and start releasing holographic storage units already?
I want a PB (1,000 TB or 1,000,000 GB) in a 5.25" bay. :p


Ok seriously though, the rest of the manufacturers will catch up with Seagate and release better 1.5 TB drives within the next 3 or 4 months max.
Then Seagate will probably release a 2 TB drive closer to summer or during summer. The other manufactures will follow with better drives at 2 TB a month or two afterwards.

Isn't that usually the cycle?
 
nitrobass24 said:
I need to buy more space but with the firmware issues with the Seagate 1.5tb im a little hesitant to buy those.
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If you get a HDD with suspect firmware, just send it back to Seagate for the update. Had my neighbor do one...free shipping both ways.
 
Phimp said:
Will manufactures just cut the crap and start releasing holographic storage units already?
I want a PB (1,000 TB or 1,000,000 GB) in a 5.25" bay. :p


Ok seriously though, the rest of the manufacturers will catch up with Seagate and release better 1.5 TB drives within the next 3 or 4 months max.
Then Seagate will probably release a 2 TB drive closer to summer or during summer. The other manufactures will follow with better drives at 2 TB a month or two afterwards.

Isn't that usually the cycle?
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IIRC, Seagate was slow to the 1TB level, wanting to perfect their design further first. I think Hitachi and WD offered them first.
 
Joe Average said:
what the hell are people doing that requires more space - and yes, I know about media servers for HTPC setups, etc but really... I'm curious.

Software doesn't need it, 2TB of music would be more than most music stores even stock or radio stations could possibly play, so it's gotta be video dumping...
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It's all pr0n and pirated movies! :eek:


My WHS box contains a few favorite movie rips, some ripped music and audio books. But the majority of it is 2 things: my wife's photos (jpgs, raw, nef) since she started her photography business. She take a lot of photos - 13,600 on our 2 month trip to Europe last year as an example and when they are in multiple formats it really skyrockets.

The other thing is TV shows recorded on the PVR/HTPC. Call it the hunter/gatherer in me, but I like archiving TV shows.
 
aardvark sandwich said:
*buzzer sound*

Lossless audio :D
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I am the IT Director at a group of 6 radio stations. Our automation engine houses linear libraries for all of them in around 600 GB. That includes commercials, imaging, and music.

However, once you start ripping video, etc... on top of that, the storage requirements can get pretty high.

My personal library at home is almost a gig and that is with flac set at 8. I also have alot of raw and jpg files of my 17 month old baby that use a great deal of space. We take lots of pictures of her and save them all.

Chris
 
I am a pro photographer and shoot about 2TB annually, which is still increasing with camera resolutions. The fewer disks I have spinning, the better in my opinion. It also makes off-site backup lighter to carry around.

I would love a few of these drives.

J
 
Joe Average said:
2TB of music would be more than most music stores even stock or radio stations could possibly play
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You would surprise how much music people have. I have over 400gb of Korean music, 200gb of Chinese, 200gb of Japanese, 100gb of Vietnamese, and 300gb of English.

Yes I am a music whore ;)

If only they had a 1tb mp3 player now...
 
I have been itching to start a "I want 2TB HDD's NOW!!!!" thread for some time, but managed to hold back... :D

I was wondering, since Seagate are the only company with a 1½TB drive, maybe the other manufacturers where caught off guard with the quick 0.5TB jump from 1TB?? Hopefully WD and Samsung are going all in and jumping to 2TB.. they got the tech ready to do it, but they will be looking to milk the marked.
 
Trepidati0n said:
If you get a HDD with suspect firmware, just send it back to Seagate for the update. Had my neighbor do one...free shipping both ways.
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This probably deserves it's own thread, but it's my first hearing that they actually created a corrected firmware for the 1.5TB drive. Any idea what the version is?
 
MrMike said:
This probably deserves it's own thread, but it's my first hearing that they actually created a corrected firmware for the 1.5TB drive. Any idea what the version is?
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That I don't know. They just said to send it in for "repair".
 
DrRetina said:
I have been itching to start a "I want 2TB HDD's NOW!!!!" thread for some time, but managed to hold back... :D

I was wondering, since Seagate are the only company with a 1½TB drive, maybe the other manufacturers where caught off guard with the quick 0.5TB jump from 1TB?? Hopefully WD and Samsung are going all in and jumping to 2TB.. they got the tech ready to do it, but they will be looking to milk the marked.
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I just have sneaking suspicions that Seagate made their 1.5TB foray a bit too quickly, considering all the firmware issues they've been having.

However, once that's solved (or for people who have no issues with RAID setups), the 1.5TBs seem to be solid performers, despite the aging 7200.11 core.
 
Syntax Error said:
However, once that's solved (or for people who have no issues with RAID setups), the 1.5TBs seem to be solid performers, despite the aging 7200.11 core.
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It's going to cost them dearly, though. People remember stuff like this.

Deskstar Deathstar, anyone?
 
alan.p said:
It's going to cost them dearly, though. People remember stuff like this.

Deskstar Deathstar, anyone?
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Well, the 75GX series were inherently flawed in a large batch of those drives with their head grinding on the platters; this freezing and dropping out issue in RAID arrays that Seagate's been experiencing with their drives applies to their SD16/17 firmwares while SD37 firmwares don't seem to have any of these issues.

Definitely a problem to be sure, but I wouldn't readily compare the 1.5TB 7200.11s to the 75GX DeskStars yet...but I am leery at buying these drives so far, at least until Seagate makes it really clear that they've resolved the issue totally, or come out with firmware updates for their drives (which may be difficult to do)
 
Whipsmack said:
I could prolly fill up 20TB...

Working with HD video footage is crazy
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I don't have very much HD video and I have ~7TB of my 8.2TB server filled. :eek: :(

When I do build my next storage server (20TB+), I'm sure I'll fill that up too.
 
1.5TB drives are made for businesses. Google and service providers and similar companies will buy huge amounts of them.

Yes, some individuals will also buy them.

Our current backup system, small CPA firm, will back up about 1TB of data this year. With 3 copies we will buy 3 1TB drives this year. Changing drives more than once a year is a hassle and it also requires more space to store the backed up data.
 
GeorgeHR said:
1.5TB drives are made for businesses. Google and service providers and similar companies will buy huge amounts of them.

Yes, some individuals will also buy them.

Our current backup system, small CPA firm, will back up about 1TB of data this year. With 3 copies we will buy 3 1TB drives this year. Changing drives more than once a year is a hassle and it also requires more space to store the backed up data.
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lol wut?

the 1.5 drives were never added to the ES line afaik

whatchu talkin bout?!?!
 
nitrobass24 said:
Drobo......you mean SloBo. Dont waste your money.
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I've done my required reading. Only issues come from problems specifically with Seagate on their well known 1.5TB drives. Those particular drives are known to hang in raid setups.
If you can show me a similar cost 4 drive matrix solution that takes firewire 800, then please, by all means, let me know.
 
Matrix solution.....I cant other then build your own with Intel Matrix Storage.

But if your using all the same drives then you dont really need it and/or benefit from the matrix features

Also $500 for an empty box that has 50MB/s reads and 35MB/s writes is just not impressive and IMO is a waste of money.
 
UnknownSouljer said:
I've done my required reading. Only issues come from problems specifically with Seagate on their well known 1.5TB drives. Those particular drives are known to hang in raid setups.
If you can show me a similar cost 4 drive matrix solution that takes firewire 800, then please, by all means, let me know.
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I've seen some benchmarks (and threads) talking about how it has rather sub-par performance over the Firewire 800 bus...USB would obviously hinder performance a lot as well. Drobos are great for simplicity and aesthetics, as well as its low power and small form factor, so take it for what you will; there are always compromises to be had.
 
nitrobass24 said:
Matrix solution.....I cant other then build your own with Intel Matrix Storage.

But if your using all the same drives then you dont really need it and/or benefit from the matrix features

Also $500 for an empty box that has 50MB/s reads and 35MB/s writes is just not impressive and IMO is a waste of money.
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Well, axe matrix solutions then. I still haven't seen anything that stacks up. I did look at the WD Sharespace, but you don't get to purchase the HD's separately which is how you save cost in the first place.

I don't like the whole HP media server solutions, and anything else I can think of is way out of my price range for an external solution that takes 4 HD's that I can throw in at my leisure. Maybe I'm missing something. Other options?
 
nitrobass24 said:
Drobo......you mean SloBo. Dont waste your money.
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nitrobass24 said:
Matrix solution.....I cant other then build your own with Intel Matrix Storage.

But if your using all the same drives then you dont really need it and/or benefit from the matrix features

Also $500 for an empty box that has 50MB/s reads and 35MB/s writes is just not impressive and IMO is a waste of money.
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You sir are correct.
 
so just buy a few 1 tb drives? i cant imagine why you would need that much space...

kinda makes me wonder what you did a year or two ago, when 500 and 700gb drives were big news.
 
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