So if I am understanding this correct. If Anyone is doing any game at 4k resolution with a 5090 then the 285k is not really "bad" because the bulk of work is now on the gpu. My LG C2 only does 120hz any ways. Think I should risk it? I will be dumping the processor when the next gen comes out any ways lol.
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285k and 4k Gaming
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At 120 HZ you're more than fine LOL don't worry about it. ? Why did you buy it recently if you knew you were going to dump it in the near future?
If you needed something you could have got a killer deal on a 13th or 14th gen which is actually faster lolCarlyle2020
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If you cheap out on the hdmi cable though i´ll come over and take the 5090 until you buy a good one!
Depends on the games really. Most will be GPU bound at 4K, but there are CPU heavy games that will have lower FPS (average and 1% lows) with a 285K vs a 14700K (and sometimes a 14600K).
Star Citizen is a game that comes to mind, as I've got a good bit of experience with it over the last 3 to 4 years along with three system upgrades. At least for that game, if you have very overclocked RAM it can help a lot (8000 to 10000MT/s, CU-DIMMs can do this now).
If you're just gaming, I'd not go this route. If you're doing mostly content creation work that requires high core count CPUs, maybe check out the 9950X. If you need that Intel, what is it called... QuickSync? Then maybe a 13900K or 14900K would be better - though you'll want to update the motherboard BIOS immediately.
I feel now that 4k-240hz exist and very powerful video card and quite CPU heavy title, the (always has been but could have been simplified in the past about saying 4k) target FPS is more where the cpu can matter than resolution.
As said above 120fps, but some game can create a distinction between a 14900k-fast ddr5/9800x3d and a 285k, but it would be pre many patches numbers:
https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Stal...eview-Steam-Benchmarks-Day-0-Patch-1459736/6/
If you already have a 285K running, you should certainly risk it, it will be specific title where it can be an "issue"
As said above 120fps, but some game can create a distinction between a 14900k-fast ddr5/9800x3d and a 285k, but it would be pre many patches numbers:
https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Stal...eview-Steam-Benchmarks-Day-0-Patch-1459736/6/
If you already have a 285K running, you should certainly risk it, it will be specific title where it can be an "issue"
While I haven't tested this with the most recent GPU's and CPU's, the CPU still has a little more to do with performance at 4K then people generally think it does. Reviewers have pretty much dropped 4K gaming benchmarks for everything but GPU's themselves, but what I learned back when I tested this was that averages may show similar performance but some CPU's will have higher highs and lower lows, skewing the benchmarks and not painting the whole picture. This was definitely a problem with older Zen based architectures as their own internal latencies across CCD's caused problems that didn't really show up on a lot of tests. But in gameplay you could definitely feel lower frame rates for brief periods of time.
Now, there probably isn't a significant difference between say a 7800X3D and a 14900K, but the 285K is known to have performance that's all over the place in games. If you have a 285K, I'd simply run it and see how well it performs. If you are looking to make a decision to buy a 285K, I'd ask why you aren't going with the Ryzen series instead? If there is some sort of professional reason to go with the 285K such as it performing significantly better in some application you use for work then that would make sense. Otherwise, I can't see any reason to go with Intel right now.
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I have not paid for it yet. I have a spare M/B itx and i have a Full water cooling system I am going to take apart and sell off. I plan to keep the 7950x and one set of 96gb of ram drop that in my itx case. I want to move back to 2 smaller computers so i can have 1 computer i can run 24/7 for video encoding and file caching in houdini. With 64gb dimm coming in 2025 i can do this now.
When I went to Falcon Northwest to build out a small Tiki I saw the only option was the stock fan The RM2 you can select so i thought or i guess they have made a lot of power reductions to move away from water. I am going to try and get more into compositing in black magic fusion and less in houdini. It does have much better IO on the back so i may for the 285k just for that.
When I went to Falcon Northwest to build out a small Tiki I saw the only option was the stock fan The RM2 you can select so i thought or i guess they have made a lot of power reductions to move away from water. I am going to try and get more into compositing in black magic fusion and less in houdini. It does have much better IO on the back so i may for the 285k just for that.
Holy Shit never knew how bad my am5 itx board was till i saw the new 285k boards itx running 4x nvme drives at full speed.
MSI MPG Z890I Edge TI WiFi
it seems intel pays them to make shitty boards only. money and power only in this world. damn F NW only carry asus with 2x nvme and less IO. they must have a deal because you have no options.
MSI MPG Z890I Edge TI WiFi
it seems intel pays them to make shitty boards only. money and power only in this world. damn F NW only carry asus with 2x nvme and less IO. they must have a deal because you have no options.
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That's always one of the downsides to buying prebuilts. You will never get tons of options for stuff.
The only - and I really do mean only - reason I could work out (after trying for several months; I like to have both AMD and Intel in the house, even when one is pretty much hot garbage) is that the Z890 platform is arguably better for workstations than the X870E. More PCIE, more connectivity options, better USB connections... and it's relatively small at that, but does exist. Slightly.
Oh, and the 265K can be found on sale already.
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The gaming performance of the 285k is inconsistent making it an undesirable. Even the owner in this thread wants to get rid of it lol. It's probably fine but yeah not intels best work
lolNo, I am trying to see if i want to MOVE TO IT. I have a 7950x 4090 192gb ram 4080 system but I want to down size and have 2 systems so i can run 1 24/7 if i need encoding or something else so I am not taking up time on my main. I had a 13900k burn out and I am going to try and rma it tomorrow. I am moving to a Falcon NW tiki itx system and i had no idea how bad amd itx was till i saw the intel itx boards. I game at 4k and i will be specking out the system on the 30th so i did not know if it was really bad at 4k games but it seems its not so I am going to go with a 285k and risk it.The gaming performance of the 285k is inconsistent making it an undesirable. Even the owner in this thread wants to get rid of it lol. It's probably fine but yeah not intels best work
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Your AM5 ITX board sucks because AMD's chipset sucks. In order to use more than 2 x4 4.0 NVME drives they have to slap a whole extra chipset die on the board, and ITX don't have room for that.
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Nah. Gigabyte has a B650 ITX board with spots for 1x 5.0 and 2x 4.0.
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You gain the 5.0 slot by losing x8 lanes on the GPU.
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B650I AORUS ULTRA has no lane conflicts for the GPU.
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Oh yeah, because it can't do 5.0 on the slot. Still not seeing your point, you get 1x gen 5 and 2x gen 4. Meanwhile the turd Z890 platform can do 1x gen 5 drive, 1x gen 5 x16 GPU, and up to 6 gen 4 x4. AMD has to daisy chain chipsets onto the same x4 DMI bus to get anywhere close to that.
Or - hear me out here - if you need more than 2 NVMe drives, buy an mATX, ATX, eATX, or SSI-EEB board?
It's an ~ITX~ board. SFF has compromises.
Now you're not wrong on the chipset as a whole - but to be honest, most folk aren't buying more than a couple of drives, and they won't notice the performance difference outside of benchmarks (and I run optane as primary storage; I have none of the limitations normal folk live with). Bitching about ITX boards is like bitching that a vehicle under 12' in length (the 2003 mini cooper) needs to carry 7 people. Right tool, right job.
Intel's platform team has done their job. It's sad that the processor team went off and studied tentacle porn instead of - you know - making chips.
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Let us know how it goes!
Christ that must have been expensive.
What is your estimated build time? If you build that system in their configurator it says..
I am going offshore in a few weeks as i am a offshore worker so i will be home in march. So build time does not matter. I called and they are going to build it and time it so it comes a few days after i get back. and has latest drivers and bio's
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Still cheaper than Jensen's quoted "$10,000" gaming PC that we all supposedly have
Still cheaper than Jensen's quoted "$10,000" gaming PC that we all supposedly have
Buying his products we are getting there.
If you are talking about the original purchase price for everything I've got, probably not far off.
I've got the Secret Labs standing desk and with all its options its like $1,400 by itself. My PC was probably around 5k originally and then if you add all the peripherals such as the monitor, chair, etc. I'm probably at about $9,000 give or take for the whole setup.
Yeah. Same desk, and with the workstation on it... yeah. And then there's the gaming box, which was probably 4k...