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27" 16x10 ?

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The-Tmann

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Is there such a thing as 27" 16x10 monitor out there?
I have used my good ole' Sony FW900 for almost 9 years:)
but it just died on me...I always ran 1900x1200

so looking for a 16x10 monitor 27" ?

or the best 27" bang for buck gaming screen that's 16x9?

thanks guys
 
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Short answer: no. All the good 27" monitors are 2560x1440 (16:9). And there are some very good ones. A 30" 2560x1600 is your best shot for a 16:10 monitor these days but they are way behind the 27" 2560x1440 monitors now for quality.
 
HannsG/Hannspree made a 27.5" 1920x1200 TN a couple of years ago. Might find one of those used.

But the FW900 is 24", isnt it? .. I think any 24" 1920x1200 would fit your bill. But there are only 60hz IPS or TN to pick from there. 120hz+ you'll have to go 16:9.
 
I-INC also made 28" 1920x1200. Havent seen any last year or two though. A shame too because they are nice to game on. The manufacturers have moved away from 1200 res. :mad:
 
CrabJuice said:
I think any 24" 1920x1200 would fit your bill.
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the sony is way taller than that!!!

wide monitors are good for monitor companies because they're smaller than they look!!!

16:10 is only found in 24" and 30" unfortunately, no room to maneuver!!!
 
The-Tmann said:
Is there such a thing as 27" 16x10 monitor out there?
I have used my good ole' Sony FW900 for almost 9 years:)
but it just died on me...I always ran 1900x1200

so looking for a 16x10 monitor 27" ?

or the best 27" bang for buck gaming screen that's 16x9?

thanks guys
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Did you say gaming?

Why are you so decided upon keeping 16x10?

I think there are better choices if gaming is a top priority.
 
If I were to buy a 27" monitor today and wanted to stick to 1920 res I would get either the ASUS VG27H or the ASUS VG27HE. One has 120Hz and Lightboost and the other is 144Hz and no Lightboost. Personally, I have no interest in 3D gaming but if you want it they have it. If I'm not mistaken monitors with Lightboost are somewhat more preferred for gaming. Anyway I'd say look at those two models and read up on them.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...E16824236206&gclid=CKrEn53AqLoCFUdk7Aod1FAAqw

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236293
 
I think I made a mistake. Both those monitors I posted about have LightBoost tech in them. One is 120Hz and other is 144Hz though. Best to double check my info. LOL
 
Really? Recommending slow wide gamut S-PVA panels (2709) to replace a Sony FW900?

Lightboost=120hz only. The VG278HE lacks a built in 3D IR emitter and lacks 3D support for external devices (console/blu-ray player) over HDMI. One has to purchase the Nvidia 3D Vision Kit if they want to use the 3D features with a PC. The VG278H comes with 3D glasse, a built in IR emitter and supposedly has better Lightboost colors.
 
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What would you recommend as a best choice for a 30" 2560x1600 monitor then?
 
I recommend getting a 27" 2560x1440 korean ips for desktop/apps for around $350 (or the u.s. mfg versions of 27" 2560x1440 that are around $400.. I think monoprice sells one), and then getting a 120hz or higher lightboost capable monitor for multiple benefits of high fps+high hz gaming while keeping the lightboost option for zero blur if you decide you like it. 27" matches nicely which is what I did.
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However, newer nvidia g-sync monitors are due out next year, so if you can wait on the gaming monitor I would wait for the new ones to come out, and see if lightboost 2d gaming is mutually exclusive from g-sync or not. G-sync is an addon circuit board that allows monitors to dynamically drop their hz to match your current fps. This lets you avoid tearing from not using vsync when the fps would traditionally droop below the hz of a lcd monitor, and allows you to avoid using vsync which would add input lag.
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The tradeoffs on monitor tech are way too great to keep only one monitor imo. Even when I ran fw900, I had a 1920x1200 LCD next to it. Now I run a 27" 2560x1440 60hz next to a 27" 1920x1080 120hz TN. I've been waiting on doing a lightboost monitor upgrade but now with the g-sync ones due out next year I am glad I waited and am going to wait to see whats up with them. I'm hoping a glossy lightboost + g-sync capable 27" model comes out sometime next year. No idea if that will happen, just hoping.
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depending on your budget, some people are switching to smaller 4k (3840x2160) TV's for the real-estate. Idk what their color quality is vs a quality ips though. Personally I wouldn't game on anything under 120hz on my main gaming rig ever again if I could help it. It is that huge a difference, with several major gains even outside of blur reduction/elimination. 4k is interesting for desktop/app side of things though, but not worth the upgrade cost to me for the foreseeable future since I'm pretty happy with 2560x1440 for desktop/apps.

I copied a lot of things I tend to post to a web page for my own easy reference. If you want to check it out feel free to. At least you will see why my opinion is what it is. I haven't added any thoughts about g-sync to this page yet however. I did make several posts about it in the main g-sync thread though.
http://www.web-cyb.org/hardware-info/gaming-screen-info.htm
 
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FuNiOnZ said:
What would you recommend as a best choice for a 30" 2560x1600 monitor then?
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The current crop of 30" is a mixed bag at best. Better to go 27", 1440, or 4k if you have that much cash. Hopefully in 2014 Dell and the others pull their heads out of their asses and make some good 30" monitors. ASUS will probably have that 31" 4k out long before any of them do. Supposedly in production now. Just my opinion anyway.
 
30" are at minimum 30% more expensive vs. the 27" models and the only advantage=size and the tiny resolution increase. They are inferior in almost every area of performance when used for consumer media unless one has no appreciation for art design or color accuracy and wants everything to have over-saturated and inaccurate wide gamut Candyland colors. If one does not care about color accurcay they still have to deal with the grainy matte coatings all of the CCFL back-lit models use or the obvious overshoot ghosting the GB-LED back-lit Dell 3014 & Lenovo LT3053P suffer from as well as more IPS glow. The 3014 has special quality control issues such as flickering horizontal lines.

The HP Z30i will likely not suffer from overshoot ghosting since all of their new monitors have overdrive settings unlike Dell's 2013 models.

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I'm excluding models 1440p Asus, LG, & Phillips which use LED PWM Dimming since it may cause health issues & Dell's since most of their products are plagued by quality control issues & all 2013 models suffer obvious overshoot ghosting, including the U2713HM which did not initially.

The Qnix may use PWM and the build quality is mediocre. Square Trade warranties & height adjustable stands be be purchased for around 50$ each and many people have fixed the back-light bleeding by taking the monitor apart.

BenQ BL2710PT
Eizo EV2736W The Eizo is overpriced (200$+ more expensive vs. BenQ & Viewsonic) in North America despite offering very similar performance. Main advantage=5 year warranty vs. 3
Viewsonic VP2770

Wide Gamut

NEC PA272W 1550$ with the SpectraView Kit=Hardware Calibration=huge advantage vs. competitors
Viewsonic VP2772 950-1000$

The NEC's can be hardware calibrated &shold offer awesome sRGB & Adobe RGB color accuracy out of the box and when calibrated. The VP2772 just came out and has not been reviewed but it will likely be much better than the Dell U2713H & Asus PA279Q, both of which suffer from obvious overshoot ghosting.
 
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The VP2772 looks amazing, especially since I primarily use my PC for work, and it says 6ms for response time, so it -should- be decent enough for gaming, obviously with it's pricetag its going to be a upper-tier solution for some. So damn hard finding a decent monitor for both graphic work AND gaming. Thanks for the input NCX.
 
hard finding a decent monitor for both graphic work AND gaming

THAT's what I'm looking for
 
The-Tmann said:
hard finding a decent monitor for both graphic work AND gaming

THAT's what I'm looking for
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Which is more important to you? I would say if it is work then buy a good monitor for that and gaming should be good enough (decent) on it. This will also depend on how you define decent. Don't fall into the rut of getting too picky or you'll never find what you want.
 
Skott said:
Which is more important to you? I would say if it is work then buy a good monitor for that and gaming should be good enough (decent) on it. This will also depend on how you define decent. Don't fall into the rut of getting too picky or you'll never find what you want.
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So what falls into the range of a graphic design monitor with a decent response time?
 
I don't know how they match up color accuracy wise vs some of the higher end monitors but once you tweak them with a good color profile they are supposed to be similar to a 27" cinema display which uses the same panel... I am talking about a 120hz.net "overclockable" korean 27" 2560x1440 ips that can hit 120hz to 133hz if you are lucky. .
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For me personally, I would never game at 60hz again, especially 1st/3rd person perspective cgi world games.
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I guess it would depend on said accuracy and just how much color accuracy you actually require.
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I really think you are losing out by only using one monitor though, as I've said before. The tradeoffs are too great between desktop/app/design suite use and gaming use monitors.
 
elvn said:
I don't know how they match up color accuracy wise vs some of the higher end monitors but once you tweak them with a good color profile they are supposed to be similar to a 27" cinema display which uses the same panel... I am talking about a 120hz.net "overclockable" korean 27" 2560x1440 ips that can hit 120hz to 133hz if you are lucky. .
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For me personally, I would never game at 60hz again, especially 1st/3rd person perspective cgi world games.
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I guess it would depend on said accuracy and just how much color accuracy you actually require.
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I really think you are losing out by only using one monitor though, as I've said before. The tradeoffs are too great between desktop/app/design suite use and gaming use monitors.
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I get that a lot from people, but truth be told once you start getting over a certain hz, I start to get motion sickness for some reason. 120hz looks rockin, but it does me no good if I have to stop to puke every 10 minutes :p
 
The problem with the new 30" is that the overshoot ghosting is REALLY obvious and the sRGB modes have locked color settings=fail for those who want to calibrate and use the monitor universally. If you own a Samsung (Fastest) or Asus (Trace Free) max the overdrive settings=Dell 2013 monitors & LT3053P performance. The NEC PA272W (Hardware Calibration!) & Viewsonic VP2772 should be good "universal," monitors. The HP Z30i is a contender, HP is sending me one in the next week.
 
adoru65535 said:
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Dell 2709W if a used one can be found.


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With an average of 60ms input lag? Definitely not the best for gaming. I mulled over getting one until Dell wouldn't honor the price they quoted me a couple weeks before, despite that.
 
NCX said:
The problem with the new 30" is that the overshoot ghosting is REALLY obvious and the sRGB modes have locked color settings=fail for those who want to calibrate and use the monitor universally. If you own a Samsung (Fastest) or Asus (Trace Free) max the overdrive settings=Dell 2013 monitors & LT3053P performance. The NEC PA272W (Hardware Calibration!) & Viewsonic VP2772 should be good "universal," monitors. The HP Z30i is a contender, HP is sending me one in the next week.
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Look forward to hearing what you think about the Z30i, always enjoy your reviews. Hopefully its coating is better than the VP2772, I didn't much care for the finish on that one.
 
Research (read reviews/threads links). Best depends on budget+priorities. The Qnix can overclock but has more ghosting vs. the VP2770 & BenQ BL2710PT which have more lag.

FuNiOnZ said:
Look forward to hearing what you think about the Z30i, always enjoy your reviews. Hopefully its coating is better than the VP2772, I didn't much care for the finish on that one.
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The VP2772's coating is the same as the Z30i's (both are GB-LED back-lit LG panels which use the same semi-glossy coating) and you haven't used a VP2772. The VP2770 uses a Samsung PLS panel and uses their semi-glossy glossy coating which is basically the same as LG's.
 
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NCX said:
Research (read reviews/threads links). Best depends on budget+priorities. The Qnix can overclock but has more ghosting vs. the VP2770 & BenQ BL2710PT which have more lag.



The VP2772's coating is the same as the Z30i's (both are GB-LED back-lit LG panels which use the same semi-glossy coating) and you haven't used a VP2772. The VP2770 uses a Samsung PLS panel and uses their semi-glossy glossy coating which is basically the same as LG's.
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Never stated I used a 2772, just don't care for the coating on it. I'm partial to glossy screens myself. If there's something suddenly outstanding about their semi-glossy coating that I haven't seen before in the past few years then I might give it a second glance.
 
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