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Lugztaz

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Ok, so sorry, another build

Full Computer
19" LCD

For a gamer, fast cpu , fast lots of memory, nice video card.

This price has to include
Case
HDD(s)
Memory
Processor
Motherboard
Videocard
Monitor

and

Shipping and Tax

I will start to hunt my self, really only need help with the memory video proc and mobo to make it awesome.

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lol sorry it ment to say "hey take a look at my post and mod off that. My total system spend is 1400 dollars"
 
Lord Blackdrgaon said:
lol sorry it ment to say "hey take a look at my post and mod off that. My total system spend is 1400 dollars"
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Bettr :p
 
 
Hmm bad video card for the amount you can spend, i would get a 7800gtx, if u get that get the dfi lanparty ut nf4 sli-dr EXPERT, or get the ati radeon x1900xtx if you get that get the DFI LanParty UT RDX200 CF-DR. BTW Dfi is a great brand. Processor is weak also, you do not want to get a single one, prolly be fine w/ a opteron 170 or x2 4400. Ram is good but youll want atleast 2gbs though.
 
Here's my initial list:

Monitor: SAMSUNG 913V-Black 19" 12ms LCD $276
Keyboard: Saitek Black Wired Eclipse Keyboard $54
Mouse: Logitech MX518 2-Tone Mouse $39

Case: Lian Li PC-7 B Plus Black Computer Case $105
Power Supply: ENERMAX Liberty ELT500AWT 500W $117

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Dual Core $460
Memory: CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR Dual Channel Kit $181 = $221 - $40
Video Card: eVGA Geforce 7800GTX 256MB $444
Mother Board: ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe $162
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS $73

OS Hard Drive: Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache $286
Media Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 300GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA $154
DVD Drive: LG Black E-IDE / ATAPI DVD Burner 5X DVD-RAM Write $46
Card Reader: LINKSKEY 19-in-1 USB 2.0 Black Card Reader $17

Windows: Windows XP Professional With SP2 $141

Total (including shipping) = $2555
 
what are you gearing your system for? is it for work. play, media? Alot of people say go dual core and I don't have anything bad to say on this if anything and you deside to go dual core get something close to the high-end models like 4800. Even in hardocp reviews they show the 4800 X2 having very close the same scores in some benchmarks with the single core A64 4000 in it. but I won't lie I would drop money on a dual core any day if i can run 14 (over doing it) programs at one time and not lose a frame in a game ^^ lol.

take a look here HardOCP

and take a look here for single VS dual core processing
Anandtech

you will see that spending money for a dual core over a single core might be a good long term investment but in the time now there is no real benefit but being able to run more programs at one time while playing a game instend of a outstanding over all performance increase over it's single core brother. At anandtech review for gaming it shows the 4000 A64 out performe the 4200 X2 processor in every benchmark. The price difference (to me) don't even justify what is offered for todays computing. The single core 4000 go for 334 and the 4600 X2 go for 552 dollars at newegg. but if you are encoding and stuff like that the X2 cores ar eth eway to go but if it's gaming save yourself 200 dollars and get a single core and wait for M2.
 
yep, dual core is a good long term investment.

If all you care about is gaming, then a single core processor will give you better bang for your buck.

dual core is great for media or multi-tasking
 
Dual core is great for gaming also, future games will put dual core to use. So single core in an "top of the line" computer (2500 dollars is considered top of the line imo) is not a bright idea.
 
Why the Raptors? For the price to they kick a reglar drives ass enough to warrant them?

I haven't seen enough numbers that show its work spending $255 for 150GB Raptor, when i can buy a 300GB 16MB for $100 or just over.
 
JFlo said:
Dual core is great for gaming also, future games will put dual core to use. So single core in an "top of the line" computer (2500 dollars is considered top of the line imo) is not a bright idea.
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Do you see any games on the line up in the next two years that will make good use for dual core? from what I know oblivion, UT2k7, and others still use single core processor. plus why would someone with a budget of $2,500 drop 400-1,000 dollars on a dual core today with M2 right around the corner if it's for pure gaming without thinking about that one single core processor that is just as fast as a 4800 X2 with a price tag of 334 that is just alittle slower (by like 5 fps) in gaming banchmarks?

you said it yourself "future games will put dual core to use" how long will that be? are you sure next year all the good to great games will use dual core processing?
 
with that budget i would get
-150gb raptor
-300gb storage drive with 16 mb cache
-7800gtx oc/ko in sli(try to get it cheap either used or ebay)
-opteron170/x2 4400+
-2gb corsair value ram
-dfi lanparty ut nf4 ultra or better
-build your own water cooling system
-neopower or seasonic s12 psu
-wat ever case u want//i like the antec p180 btw
 
with that budget i would get
-150gb raptor
-300gb storage drive with 16 mb cache
-7800gtx oc/ko in sli(try to get it cheap either used or ebay)
-opteron170/x2 4400+
-2gb corsair value ram
-dfi lanparty ut nf4 ultra or better
-build your own water cooling system
-neopower or seasonic s12 psu
-wat ever case u want//i like the antec p180 btw

if u be thrifty and look for deals u could definatly get that stuff in ur budget...

u should have seen my system i got for 600$ it had x2 3800+,7800gtxoc,1gbmushkin,120gb, antecsonata,neopower480,and thats about it...it was uber sexy for the price
 
AMD Athlon 64 4000+
ASUS A8N-SLI Premium
CORSAIR XMS 2GB 2-3-3-6
ASUS Extreme AX1900XT

that set up is pretty good. it offer a long time effect (if your waiting for next gen CPUs) plus high end gaming.
 
Heres my suggestion, take it or leave it.


CM Stacker 810
Enermax Liberty 500 Watt
DFI Mobo
AMD 64 4000+ 2.6Ghz CPU
2 GIG DDR500 G.skill RAM
WD 250GIG HD
X1900XT
OMG stupid newegg is broke.
ATI X1900XT
DVD burner and floppy
Thermalright xp90 heatsink with a 92mm fan.
Windows x64

A Acer 20" Widescreen or a Gateway 21" Widescreen.

Yes, its 754... Fx55 speeds for $350! That will overclock to fx57 easily. My setup is one of the cheapest, yet its also the fastest. 754 FTW! $1700 Tower+ $600 Moniter = Money to spare!!!
 
Ok i initally told showed them what pj-schmidt posted.

Except i doubt i will go with the 150 gigger for windows, they will never use that much, so the 36 giger + 300 media will do fine.

But to everyone else dose that system look good?
 
Lugztaz said:
Ok, so sorry, another build

Full Computer
19" LCD

For a gamer, fast cpu , fast lots of memory, nice video card.

This price has to include
Case
HDD(s)
Memory
Processor
Motherboard
Videocard
Monitor

and

Shipping and Tax

I will start to hunt my self, really only need help with the memory video proc and mobo to make it awesome.

:cool:
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Just order the same stuff I am, it should easily be over $2,500.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1020647
 
Lugztaz said:
Ok i initally told showed them what pj-schmidt posted.

Except i doubt i will go with the 150 gigger for windows, they will never use that much, so the 36 giger + 300 media will do fine.

But to everyone else dose that system look good?
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I wouldn't reccommend the 36GB raptor, it's not really any faster than some of the good 7200rpm drives. I'd be inclined to go with the 74GB raptor or just put the money into a good 7200romr drive. You could also scrap the idea of using two drives, but I like being able to keep the OS and media seperate.

If I was the one using the systemm, I would want to still be able to install programs to the C-drive. 36GB would fill up very fast once you started installing programs. The one solution would be to install programs to the 300GB drive, but this might be rather cumbersome depending on the experience level of the person actually using the computer.

just some thoughts...
 
pj-schmidt said:
I wouldn't reccommend the 36GB raptor, it's not really any faster than some of the good 7200rpm drives. I'd be inclined to go with the 74GB raptor or just put the money into a good 7200romr drive. You could also scrap the idea of using two drives, but I like being able to keep the OS and media seperate.

If I was the one using the systemm, I would want to still be able to install programs to the C-drive. 36GB would fill up very fast once you started installing programs. The one solution would be to install programs to the 300GB drive, but this might be rather cumbersome depending on the experience level of the person actually using the computer.

just some thoughts...
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Y is the 36 slowre then the 74?
 
Lord Blackdrgaon said:
Do you see any games on the line up in the next two years that will make good use for dual core? from what I know oblivion, UT2k7, and others still use single core processor. plus why would someone with a budget of $2,500 drop 400-1,000 dollars on a dual core today with M2 right around the corner if it's for pure gaming without thinking about that one single core processor that is just as fast as a 4800 X2 with a price tag of 334 that is just alittle slower (by like 5 fps) in gaming banchmarks?

you said it yourself "future games will put dual core to use" how long will that be? are you sure next year all the good to great games will use dual core processing?
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There are already games that are multithreaded - Quake 4 and Serious Sam 2. nVidia's 8x.xx drivers are also multithreaded. More games will certainly follow.
 
Lugztaz said:
Y is the 36 slowre then the 74?
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The 74 is not just a bigger version of the 36. Is is newer and has some technology that the 36 does not. I am no expert, just repeating what other have said on this forum. The 74 performs better in most benchmarks than the 36.
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RavenD said:
There are already games that are multithreaded - Quake 4 and Serious Sam 2. nVidia's 8x.xx drivers are also multithreaded. More games will certainly follow.
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your right. I didn't look at qauke 4 or SSII. I guess I'll look over the net for more SMP games.
 
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