2407WFP Panel Changes

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History Lesson:
Alright so first we had the "LTM240L2" panel wich was S-PVA and had horrible viewing angles wich made it impossible to view the hot/sexy girl on the wallpaper.
That carried over till A03 when they finally switched out the panel to the Samsung "HN208", wich i know nothing about.
Then they switched over to the new "HN208L6" in the most recent A04 revision.

Question:
So does anyone know what the new monitors bring to the table? Do they finally fix the S-PVA viewing angle problems?
 
2407WFP S-PVA Samsung LTM240M2
2407WFP S-IPS LG Philips RT803, HN208, HN213 V1B18, V1B20
 
k00lance said:
2407WFP S-PVA Samsung LTM240M2
2407WFP S-IPS LG Philips RT803, HN208, HN213 V1B18, V1B20
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Uhh...I'll believe that when I see it.;) Any confirmation from real people who actually have a 2407 that exhibits the telltale characteristics of IPS?
 
k00lance said:
2407WFP S-PVA Samsung LTM240M2
2407WFP S-IPS LG Philips RT803, HN208, HN213 V1B18, V1B20
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You have confused the 2407WFP with the 2007WFP. Those S-IPS codes you have are for the 20 inch and not the 24 inch.

Also the 2407 does not use S-IPS.
 
Does anyone know if a 24" IPS panel even exists? I'm under the impression that only 23" panels like Apple's, Philips', etc. are IPS.
 
travbomb said:
You have confused the 2407WFP with the 2007WFP. Those S-IPS codes you have are for the 20 inch and not the 24 inch.

Also the 2407 does not use S-IPS.
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Picture is worth 1000 words, no? :D

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I spent a lot of time looking into this,and no they do not use S-IPS panels.I have a Dell 2005FPW,that has a mint specimen S-IPS panel in it,and the A04 2407 I had did not use it,nor do any of them according to people I have talked to,who actually work for Dell.
 
If this was the case then it would be awesome. However, I think all existing 2407WFPs are S-PVA panels.
 
Manny Calavera said:
I spent a lot of time looking into this,and no they do not use S-IPS panels.I have a Dell 2005FPW,that has a mint specimen S-IPS panel in it,and the A04 2407 I had did not use it,nor do any of them according to people I have talked to,who actually work for Dell.
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Alright, thats it. Im going to talk to Dell.. wish me luck!

P.S. Could someone actually CALL Dell and ask them, seeing as I dont live in the US?
 
Tracker said:
Alright, thats it. Im going to talk to Dell.. wish me luck!

P.S. Could someone actually CALL Dell and ask them, seeing as I dont live in the US?
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Are you near India? if you are then it would closer for you;)

edit- what I mean is that calling them would be useless....the panel technology and model number is not part of their tech support script and the sales dept is totally clueless about such things.
 
Tracker said:
I dont care how much it's worth as long as its good at shutting up all the ppl who dont know what the heck theyre talking about and still post.

I need confirmation.
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That picture isnt worth a damn thing since that tech does not know what he is talking about. I know for a fact that Dell is not using S-IPS in their 24 inch and those codes posted are from the 2007WFP. But if you dont believe me, buy one and figure it out the hard way.

The only 24 inch S-IPS i am aware of is the LCD2490WUXi-BK
 
You can't trust Dell tech support, it doesn't matter if they are on a web page or on the phone. People were told the 2007 FP/WFP a month ago, was all S-IPS, but this turned out to be complete rubbish. People claimed it was verified via supervisors etc...

The tech doesn't know what he is talking about.
The Panels listed above. RT803 is the 20" S-IPS panel in the 2007WFP.

Note he lists no code for PVA, he lists the actual panel name before dell stared to obscure it in A03. The other numbers are what the PVA panels were called the next day after A03 hit.

NOTE: Dell started obscuring all the panel types in 2007fp/wfp, 2407WFP at A03, there is ZERO evidence they actually changed the panels, they just started obscuring the model with code.

Before they started obscuring the name with code, there was NEVER a S-IPS base 2407.

There is no S-IPS 2407. There is no indication of a change in basic panel characteristics from A02 (when they were all PVA) to A03 when they supposedly became all S-IPS. There is no indication of significant difference in currently shipping 2407 either.

2407 is PVA and has always been PVA. It has alway been a slightly better than average PVA (less gama shift than the 2405), but it is PVA, It may be fine for you, but don't expect a S-IPS.
 
My apologies for the incorrect data above.

2007FP S-IPS LG.Philips LM201U05, HN210 S-PVA Samsung UW473, LTM201U1, LTM240M2

2007WFP S-IPS A03 LG Philips LTM201M1, RT803, HN208, HN213 V1B18, V1B20, S-PVA PM330

2405FPW S-PVA

2407WFP Samsung S-PVA LTM240M2, LTM240CS01 78% color gamut

2407WFP-HC AMLCD S-PVA 92% color gamut

2707WFP AMLCD S-PVA 92% color gamut

3007WFP LPL S-IPS 78% color gamut

3007WFP-HC LPL S-IPS 92% color gamut
 
DELL-ChrisM said:
My apologies for the incorrect data above.

2007FP S-IPS LG.Philips LM201U05, HN210 S-PVA Samsung UW473, LTM201U1, LTM240M2

2007WFP S-IPS A03 LG Philips LTM201M1, RT803, HN208, HN213 V1B18, V1B20, S-PVA PM330

2405FPW S-PVA

2407WFP Samsung S-PVA LTM240M2, LTM240CS01 78% color gamut

2407WFP-HC AMLCD S-PVA 92% color gamut

2707WFP AMLCD S-PVA 92% color gamut

3007WFP LPL S-IPS 78% color gamut

3007WFP-HC LPL S-IPS 92% color gamut
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Thanks, but I've got another question for you..

Is Dell abandoning S-IPS for everything but the 3007WFP? The specs of the 2008WFP reek of TN...or possibly PVA with extreme overdrive. Now that NEC has thrown in the towel and joined the TN party there doesn't seem to be much hope for a quality panel under 1k.:(
 
joemama said:
Is Dell abandoning S-IPS for everything but the 3007WFP?
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Personally I wouldn't even expect them to keep S-IPS in the 30" panel for much longer as a whole bunch of new PVA/MVA 30" panels have come online. Dells main criteria seems to be buying the cheapest batch of panels that week, not delivering any kind of consistent quality to the customer.

I keep looking for a used Dell 2007fp so I can check the panel type. Becuase buying from a company that will ship me a product with random contents is out of the question for me. Anyone in Ontario looking to ditch a S-IPS 2007fp, PM me.

From my perspective it is like Toyota randomly dropping Lada engines into some of their cars. Or if you the local bar only served Budweiser and Guinness, but wouldn't let you pick which kind you received. You could only order beer and they would randomly give you a Guiness or a Bud.


Even for the people who panel type doesn't matter to; What if they buy one monitor and you like, so you buy a second to match and you get a totally different type of panel with different behaviors and they don't match at all.

This is ridiculous behavior, that would see them out of business in other fields.

If find this so frustrating, because I like the dell monitor looks, functionality, but random panel type makes it a no go.
 
Snowdog said:
Personally I wouldn't even expect them to keep S-IPS in the 30" panel for much longer as a whole bunch of new PVA/MVA 30" panels have come online. Dells main criteria seems to be buying the cheapest batch of panels that week, not delivering any kind of consistent quality to the customer.

I keep looking for a used Dell 2007fp so I can check the panel type. Becuase buying from a company that will ship me a product with random contents is out of the question for me. Anyone in Ontario looking to ditch a S-IPS 2007fp, PM me.

From my perspective it is like Toyota randomly dropping Lada engines into some of their cars. Or if you the local bar only served Budweiser and Guinness, but wouldn't let you pick which kind you received. You could only order beer and they would randomly give you a Guiness or a Bud.


Even for the people who panel type doesn't matter to; What if they buy one monitor and you like, so you buy a second to match and you get a totally different type of panel with different behaviors and they don't match at all.

This is ridiculous behavior, that would see them out of business in other fields.

If find this so frustrating, because I like the dell monitor looks, functionality, but random panel type makes it a no go.
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I couldn't agree with you more.

The really frustrating thing is: Dell is hardly the only ones doing this sort of thing.
 
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