2405fpw way too bright.

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I love my 2405fpw during the day, but at night it's way too bright. I'm already at 0%. I could turn down the output map of my card, but I don't want to squish the dynamic range. Short of going back to VGA to get access to contrast control again, is there any other way to get it to be dimmer with DVI. Sunglasses are not an option.
 
puppyfriend said:
I love my 2405fpw during the day, but at night it's way too bright. I'm already at 0%. I could turn down the output map of my card, but I don't want to squish the dynamic range. Short of going back to VGA to get access to contrast control again, is there any other way to get it to be dimmer with DVI. Sunglasses are not an option.
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Your best option is to lower the RGB values some. Try turning them down a little in unison - doing it this way will lower the contrast but not bias the colours. I tend to use my screen in a full lit room at night (as full lit as a 60W bulb permits anyway), so am content to leave the brightness at around 40-50% (and at about 75% during the day). If you've just got a desk lamp or equivalent I can imagine the image might look too bright.
 
thats the exact reason why i returned my samsung 710N so i can use my good'ole nec 19inch crt
 
Let me explain what I have, and how I solve your problem.....
I have a 23" HP-L2335 LCD monitor and 256mb Nvidia 6900GT/OC video card running in digital DVI.
On the HP's bottom-bezel is a row of buttons that control the screen-display.

The 'Brightness' control on the bezel is turned way down to 34.
And (just like you) the bezel's 'Contrast' control don't work in DVI.

OK, so how do I adjust Contrast when Contrast ain't working? No sweat.
I go to Control Panel / Display / Settings / Advanced / Nvidia ... and mouse to Nvidia's display control.
There is an entire WORLD of "controls" in that Nvidia area
When Iget there, I can adjust Contrast and Brightness and Gamma etc. etc. to just about ANY value I want.
Then, before I exit out of there I click on "Apply" button to make sure the computer Saves those changes.
Then I hit OK and exit out.
And the Nvidia card will OVERIDE those control buttons that are on HP's bezel.

So the only question is, do you have a video card, this fine?
If not you should get one, your superb 24" Dell 2405DPW deserves it.
BOTTOM LINE:
A hi-quality video card "takes no cheap lip" from an LCD monitor.
A high-quality video card CONTROLS the LCD----whether its running Digital (DVI) or Analog (VGA).
:D Hope this helps. :D
 
Well yeah there's always the "software" option. I just figured he didn't want to go down that route as he said:

" I could turn down the output map of my card, but I don't want to squish the dynamic range"

Having said that, lowering all the RGB values will also reduce the dynamic range.
 
This is exactly what I don't want to do. You aren't controlling your monitor at all. You're adjusting the values produced by dampening your dynamic range. So instead of being able to display say 16 million colors, you're clamping them into a range of say 10 million colors. Sure, it's darker but you've lost resolution. Your card is just mapping the high intensity levels to lower intensity and you've lost the ability to distinguish as many different shades.

Zak said:
Let me explain what I have, and how I solve your problem.....
I have a 23" HP-L2335 LCD monitor and 256mb Nvidia 6900GT/OC video card running in digital DVI.
On the HP's bottom-bezel is a row of buttons that control the screen-display.

The 'Brightness' control on the bezel is turned way down to 34.
And (just like you) the bezel's 'Contrast' control don't work in DVI.

OK, so how do I adjust Contrast when Contrast ain't working? No sweat.
I go to Control Panel / Display / Settings / Advanced / Nvidia ... and mouse to Nvidia's display control.
There is an entire WORLD of "controls" in that Nvidia area
When Iget there, I can adjust Contrast and Brightness and Gamma etc. etc. to just about ANY value I want.
Then, before I exit out of there I click on "Apply" button to make sure the computer Saves those changes.
Then I hit OK and exit out.
And the Nvidia card will OVERIDE those control buttons that are on HP's bezel.

So the only question is, do you have a video card, this fine?
If not you should get one, your superb 24" Dell 2405DPW deserves it.
BOTTOM LINE:
A hi-quality video card "takes no cheap lip" from an LCD monitor.
A high-quality video card CONTROLS the LCD----whether its running Digital (DVI) or Analog (VGA).
:D Hope this helps. :D
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Show me your Document that says "Software designed by graphics engineers for purpose of "Tuning-up / Tweaking / Improving Quality" of an LCD Display can't do so without undesirable-tradeoffs (such as, reducing # of colors displayed, or... etc.)."

I use Nvidia's tuneup software to tweak my LCD, and as result I have better display with richer, brighter colors, sharper image, better contrast---- than if I had not used their software. Software, that was designed by some of world's best graphics engineers. And I've documented that statement by pointing you to exact place in my PC where I did it.

But obviously you think there's no such thing as Genuine LCD "tune-up" software, only "software bandaids" (fix one thing, screwup another). OK, I won't argue. This was obviously thankless waste of time. Good luck with your "bright" LCD.
 
Ahh... whatever, it's hard to argue with someone that can't understand the basics of the technology.

I got a new 1905fp today. The brightness control on it does a lot more than my 2405fpw. Actually the 1905fp compared to the 2405fpw is really dim. I like my 1901fp better.

Zak said:
Show me your Document that says "Software designed by graphics engineers for purpose of "Tuning-up / Tweaking / Improving Quality" of an LCD Display can't do so without undesirable-tradeoffs (such as, reducing # of colors displayed, or... etc.)."

I use Nvidia's tuneup software to tweak my LCD, and as result I have better display with richer, brighter colors, sharper image, better contrast---- than if I had not used their software. Software, that was designed by some of world's best graphics engineers. And I've documented that statement by pointing you to exact place in my PC where I did it.

But obviously you think there's no such thing as Genuine LCD "tune-up" software, only "software bandaids" (fix one thing, screwup another). OK, I won't argue. This was obviously thankless waste of time. Good luck with your "bright" LCD.
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I have a friend looking for a pair of "affordable" 19's for general art work; What did you pay?
 
I payed $317. It turns out that was high. Today they were $275 for a few hours. Now they're $310.

Zak said:
I have a friend looking for a pair of "affordable" 19's for general art work; What did you pay?
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Maybe some of you guys will just have to buy some sunglasses for when using these bright screens
 
"I payed $317. It turns out that was high. Today they were $275 for a few hours. Now they're $310"
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Perhaps we're speaking of different LCDs here (probably my error).
I meant your 1905fp not your 1901fp.
Pricegrabber says lowest price of 1905fp is "$419".
If you got it for less, how did you do it?
 
Zak: Just to clarify: The software doesn't override anything on your monitor. The graphics card will just deliver a different picture which then will also be altered by your monitor's settings. There is no such "Monitor: Ignore your settings" command.
 
seems like your only recourse is to increase the ambient light level in your room.
 
same thing here. i have the 2005fwp and the thing is really bright at night. I had to shine my light on to the screen to not blind myself.

I now have a GE 26watt light, more bright than 100watts.
 
Stop griping, go into 'Display' and use video card controls to adjust monitor brightness, contrast, gamma, etc. till your eyes are happy. Sheez!
 
Zak said:
Stop griping, go into 'Display' and use video card controls to adjust monitor brightness, contrast, gamma, etc. till your eyes are happy. Sheez!
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The whole point of the entire thread was to avoid this. :rolleyes:

Increasing the ambient lighting is a good idea, although you might have roommates or something where that wouldn't work. Since sunglasses wouldn't work... :cool:

Maybe switching to VGA will end up being your option, although I don't know how much image quality you'd lose not using DVI vs. adjusting stuff through software.
 
Zak said:
Stop griping, go into 'Display' and use video card controls to adjust monitor brightness, contrast, gamma, etc. till your eyes are happy. Sheez!
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i tried this and porns are too dark to get the full effect. :)
 
wow, someone people complain about LCDs not be bright enough and now someone's complaining about an LCD being too bright.

now why does this remind me of Goldylochs (sp?) and the three bears? mommy, my pourage is too hot.... my pourage is too cold... and my pourage is just right. :p
 
I remember feeling my lcd was too bright when I first got it..
but I always left it at the default/auto setting of 100.

am I not supposed to do that? lol
I hope I'm not putting too much stress on the bulb or something
 
puppyfriend said:
I love my 2405fpw during the day, but at night it's way too bright. I'm already at 0%. I could turn down the output map of my card, but I don't want to squish the dynamic range. Short of going back to VGA to get access to contrast control again, is there any other way to get it to be dimmer with DVI. Sunglasses are not an option.
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hey your daytime lover sux .... j/k. Ive never heard of such ... such a thing as software controls would diminish/compromise this so called "dynamic range". I'd call it an idiotic coined-up term and you'd agree with me if you knew just a bit more about how gfx are displayed on a comp monitor via DVI. At the end of the day, I think you are a little paranoid... ;)

EDIT: oh by the way, happy easter!
 
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