24" LCD, non TN!!!

gar818

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OK, after going in circles, i have tried out almost all 24" lcd's, i have tried several TN's and they all sucked, really bad, 24" is too big for a TN, and why manufacturers keep on making TN 24" is crazy, the only 24" tn that looks decent is the gateway fhd2400 which suffers from really horrible backlight bleeding, tried out 3 of them, ALL the gatweays had backlight issues, i have tried the samsung 245bw, didnt like it, i tried the samsung 2693HM and this monitor is pure garbage,when the screen is white, like google web page, the RGB colors bleed through and you see some red, some green and some blue..................i cant find the LG 24" anymore, it has been disc. i cannot find the benQ fp241w, i tried the dell A04 and the HC, both had color banding and ghosting, im begginig to think all 24" lcd suck, is there anymore i havnt tried?? any help would be appreciated, would it be better to go for a smaller TN like a 22", im confused and have been running around for about a month trying to find a good quality 24", my max is $650.....any help is appreciated.
 
Gateway FPD2485W. S-PVA panel, and BBY was clearancing them for $370 a few months ago if you can find one by you anywhere. Terrific panel, I love mine. :)
 
I thought it was the inverse ghosting problem? I was looking at the Gateway FHD2400 but since eliminated that choice due to the horrible progressive BLB users are experiencing. Now, I might be interested in a new or used FPD2485W instead, providing I can get a positive enough feedback in regards to video quality. I will be using it primarily for watching broadcast video and movies, how does the inverse ghosting issue (if present) affect video playback? Any opinions?
 
I'd say the Westinghouse L2410NM . lots of connections (no dvi tho), hdcp, hdmi, non TN, and few problems (except a potential hum at <100 brightness). $350 at the egg
 
Inverse ghosting does not affect video playback, at least on mine. I do have it, but I honestly can't see it on anything apart from mouse pointer moving across a solid background or text scrolling up or down quickly.

And banding on mine is almost unnoticeable. My Samsung 940MW (TN) has a more noticeable pattern!
 
I never thought buying a monitor of all things would be this hard, quality is something very hard to find now a days, you would think its 2008 and things would be different.
 
I never thought buying a monitor of all things would be this hard, quality is something very hard to find now a days, you would think its 2008 and things would be different.
That's because we are dealing almost exclusively with several different types of very imperfect LCD technologies. It's not like the CRT days when (generally) the more expensive a monitor one bought, the bigger and better the screen was. Alas, those days are gone.

mavalpha,

Thanks for the info.
 
That's because we are dealing almost exclusively with several different types of very imperfect LCD technologies. It's not like the CRT days when (generally) the more expensive a monitor one bought, the bigger and better the screen was. Alas, those days are gone.

mavalpha,

Thanks for the info.

while I agree that yes, LCD are imperfect, there are plenty of types that are pretty damn decent. monitor companies just refuse to use the good stuff for some reason. instead they go as cheap as possible and then dress it up hoping someone will buy. the thing is, we almost have to, because the good stuff is so rare and limited release that we don't really have a choice but to get the only ok stuff.
 
I actually Just bought that westy. I plan on hooking up my Xbox,PS2, and PC to it. I'll let ya know how it goes. I should get it by next Tuesday. If I forget PM me.
 
Just tried the benq fp241vw, total garbage......gave me very bad eye strain, color was washed out no matter how i tweaked it.
 
I'm looking for the same thing, had finally decided on a Dell 2407WFP, then the news of the 2408 came out and I decided to wait. I'm using a 2405 right now that I got pretty much free, and like it better than most of the TN panels and such I see at Fry's. Couldn't stand the Gateway 2400, looked terrible to me, but I'm hoping the newer Dell model will improve the contrast, black levels and response time a bit. Brightness and viewing angle are great even on this ancient one, and most of the other brands are scaring me away with Samsung's ambiguous manufacturing quality and Gateway's crappy TN panels.

Any other suggestions? Hoping for around $600 but can got a bit over, top choice now is to wait for the Dell 2408WFP for $699.
 
TN panels dont look too good for a 24" monitor, for 22" and below they are fine. I was thinking of getting a DELL SP2208wfp for $250 from someone local, brand new, instead of paying 500 for a crappy 24" with high input lag...........if i cant find something soon im going to settle for a 22" for 200 instead of a 500 POS.................the 2408 better not have the same issues as the HC 2407 or else its going to suck.
 
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