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harrykim

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I am looking for a lcd monitor between 22-24 inch primory use is for pc gaming so no ghosting and signal delay is a must.

I have read a lot of topics on this forum that no matter which you pick all have problems such as scalling/ banding and ghosting.

So I would like to know which monitors are best for pc gameing and your experiences with them.

Thanks in advanced.
 
one thing to learn about LCD's.

ALL have ghosting of some sort.
samsungs have bad input lag.
No LCD's are good for gaming.:)

You're asking the impossible.

i have the benq FW241W, and i like it alot.

it CAN game, but like all other lcd's, not very well.

good colors and a good overall monitor, i would recommend it.:)
 
Samsung do not have bad input lag.:confused:
People I know play with them all the time using BF2 and never thought they were out done do to input lag.
I would actually recommend the 244T, it has good color reproduction, very little ghosting, works well in every resolution, no banding issues, good customer service, etc
Overall a solid monitor.
 
Man, and here I thought LCD's were dominating the market because they were good. So I guess you would direct him to the ViewSonic G225fb thread above and have him get an NEC CRT?

How about this? The TN panels of the 22" screens have a solid response time and get you a lot of real estate to game on at a solid price per square inch.

I saw a test, forgot the site, LCD lag can be as little as 1 frame every few frames.
 
if youre willing to go up to $700 for a 24", you'll be better off than with the TN panels of the 22" domain in terms of color issues and overall quality. the TN panels are not as expensive as the other types, but buyer beware, sometimes TN can mean trouble. i don't think there are any non-TN panel 22" monitors out there but i could be wrong. LG, DELL, Gateway, Acer, and ViewSonic make good 24" monitors with P-MVA and S-PVA panels. these panels have better color reproduction and contrast ratios than TN panels and all with only a marginal increase in response time. my friend games on a Dell 2405 with a response time of 16ms and he says there's no ghosting that he's aware of. his games look incredible on a 24" screen. the newer Dell 24" (2407WFP) screen boasts a 6ms gray-to-gray response time, so you might find what you need there. but in a way Dunan is right. you're asking for the impossible. all LCD monitors come with some sort of drawback. it's all about doing a lot of research to find what would best suit you in terms of your projected usage.
 
I am in the exact same predicament.

First I wanted to purchase the:

1. Dell 2407, but then it had problems with connectivity (lack of HDMI)

2. So I wanted the Gateway 2485, but then it also doesn't have HDMI and the panel quality and quality control is shady, (it is the cheapest of the 24s at $580)

3. BenQ is cool because it had good image and HDMI but now it can't really do 1:1. (Also the most expensive)

4. So I am ultimately decided for the LG 246 or LG 245 (is there a difference?) because it has HDMI...but now the problem may be sharpness. (????)

5. My last Choice is the NEC 2470 but it is one of the more expensive 24s and do not have HDMI connectors. Well, I am thinking, if I can still use the NEC as 1080p through DVI and my Xbox Elite or watch 1080p with HDcable/BluRay, then it is settled. This looks like the monitor for me.
 
Eastcoasthandle said:
Samsung do not have bad input lag.:confused:
People I know play with them all the time using BF2 and never thought they were out done do to input lag.
I would actually recommend the 244T, it has good color reproduction, very little ghosting, works well in every resolution, no banding issues, good customer service, etc
Overall a solid monitor.
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one of the ones i was looking at before i decided on the benq. The complaints on the input lag completely killed the deal:(

The colors rock though.

a majority of newegg reviewers say it has bad input lag.
Samsung monitors are notorious for it, especially the 244T.
dont get me wrong, i like samsung monitors and they have been some of the better monitors i have used but facts are facts, input lag on their screens is no secret.

"Cons: Screen lag is real. Not a whole lot, though. "

"Cons: Some ghosting on fast games"

"Cons: I noticed the video lag issues mentioned here before buying and thought it was peoples video cards. I was buying the monitor for a new, near top of the line gaming PC from the... alien-like company. Dual SLI linked 512 mb video cards. The delay on the monitor was noticable. Using photorelays it was measured to be about 60 ms when both the CRT and LCD were hooked up simulataneously. Time delay was visible to the naked eye, but only barely."

and that was just in the first 5 reviews!:D
 
harrykim said:
I am looking for a lcd monitor between 22-24 inch primory use is for pc gaming so no ghosting and signal delay is a must.

I have read a lot of topics on this forum that no matter which you pick all have problems such as scalling/ banding and ghosting.

So I would like to know which monitors are best for pc gameing and your experiences with them.

Thanks in advanced.
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how much are you willing to spend? I'm not saying expensive is better for gaming because everything I've read is the exact opposite (response time wise), but for the sake of a complete picture (recognizing that there is more to gaming perhaps than response time), how much are you willing to spend?
 
I have a Westing House 24" L2410nm I love it so far. the blacks are nices too. Better then my gateway. I dont really notice the ghosting.

I paid like 600 for my montior, You might not find it some reason best buy stop carrying it. The Lg24 i dont know the rest of the model number for the LG one. That would be another choice.
 
Thanks for the comments everyone. I already have a decent lcd viewsonic 922 thats great for games no input lag or ghosting in even the fastest of games.

I was hoping I could get all this in an higher resolution monitor as im upgrading my graphics card to either an 8800gtx or ultra so I wanted to get the most out of the higher resolutions.

Perhaps I should wait a while and see if anything decent comes out Im willing to pay between 600-700.
 
I would suggest the best 22" being the HP W2207 and for 24" well, I have no experience with them but I'm waiting for the new 2407 HC (wide gamut) that should be release this month. As for ghosting there is none anymore, you'll allways have some bluriness but it doesn't bother since you don't see it most of the time.

I have a 8800gtx too, but buying a 24" mean native res of 1900x1200, will you be able to allway have a framerate of 60 with that res ?? I dont think so.
 
Manon66 said:
I would suggest the best 22" being the HP W2207 and for 24" well, I have no experience with them but I'm waiting for the new 2407 HC (wide gamut) that should be release this month. As for ghosting there is none anymore, you'll allways have some bluriness but it doesn't bother since you don't see it most of the time.

I have a 8800gtx too, but buying a 24" mean native res of 1900x1200, will you be able to allway have a framerate of 60 with that res ?? I dont think so.
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Agreed, I looked at a lot of 22" monitors side by side and the hp w2207 stood out the most...its stand is unbeatable in the 22" price range of $289 plus tax. I eventually plan to get a 8800gtx or gts to turn on all the eye candy and still get great frame rates....not sure when you get 24 inch or larger monitors you may need SLI/Crossfire.
 
Not really, it depends on the games you play alot of my games i can get away with 1920x1200 and aa4x af16x. a few i have to turn off AA , in test drive unlimited I have to pick one or the other. I also play vegas at this same res with HDR on and it only slow down when i get into heavy smoke.

So it really depends on what games you play you might have to turn off AA but it depends on the game. you dont need to have 60 constain to beable to game. either. I dont know what fps i get because i dont be looking at it. I be too busy playing the game.
 
hehe if you're too busy playing the game then your setting of AAx4 and AFx16 are pretty useless in 1900x1200. Beside are you one of those who cannot tell the difffrence between 15 fps and 60 fps ? It seem so.
 
I don't think input lag and ghosting are really an issue anymore with decent LCDs.

Anyway, personal experience: I have a Gateway 2485. It crushes blacks and the color takes some tuning, but that's my only complaint. I don't have any ghosting problems. The crushed blacks have been an issue in Quake 4 and Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, but the latter game sucks and nobody plays the former so you should be okay. :)

Whether you go 24 or 22 is a matter of budget really. If money is somewhat tight, you're almost definitely better off saving $300 and getting a 22, then spending that $300 somewhere else in your computer. If you go with the 24, you get 1080p resolution for HD-DVDs, better image (the 22s have crappy viewable angles), plus fantastic screen real estate, but you'll want at least an 8800gts to run it with all eyecandy, which means even more money.
 
Manon66 said:
hehe if you're too busy playing the game then your setting of AAx4 and AFx16 are pretty useless in 1900x1200.
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Wouldn't it be the opposite of useless (like, urgh.. useful) to have AA and AF cranked up? I don't understand your logic.
 
Mansize_tissue said:
Wouldn't it be the opposite of useless (like, urgh.. useful) to have AA and AF cranked up? I don't understand your logic.
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I think what he's saying is that at that high a resolution, AA and AF are not noticeable. Anti-aliasing attempts to eliminate the "jaggies" seen in diagonal lines. A diagonal line is not smooth on a screen with square pixels since it can only be represented by "stair steps". However, the higher the resolution, the closer and smaller the pixels are and the less noticeable the stair step. Having said that, the only game I play at 1920x1200 on my 17" widescreen laptop LCD is Civ IV and it looks gorgeous without AA. I can't play Oblivion at 1920 x1200 with my laptop, I can only play it at the lowest widescreen resolution (1200 x 800?) and in that situation, AA is a huge benefit.
 
On most LCD screens, excluding laptops, the pixel pitch remains similar so they aren't much closer at all. In fact, the pixel pitch on 1920x1200 displays is the same as that on 20" displays with 1680x1050. Although, i understand that AA won't be needed as much on laptop screens which usually have a really low pixel pitch.
 
ChakkaSol said:
Agreed, I looked at a lot of 22" monitors side by side and the hp w2207 stood out the most...its stand is unbeatable in the 22" price range of $289 plus tax. I eventually plan to get a 8800gtx or gts to turn on all the eye candy and still get great frame rates....not sure when you get 24 inch or larger monitors you may need SLI/Crossfire.
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HP w2207 also gets my vote if your looking for 22" no need to look at anything eles.
 
I wonder how good this Westinghouse 24" monitor is? They are closed out at Best Buy and no longer there. But, they are on there Corporate Website on a auction.

So, you can buy these for $200. Are they worth it, or should I just save up for the Dell 2407WFP?

Thoughts...

AdmiralFlameberg said:
I have a Westing House 24" L2410nm I love it so far. the blacks are nices too. Better then my gateway. I dont really notice the ghosting.

I paid like 600 for my montior, You might not find it some reason best buy stop carrying it. The Lg24 i dont know the rest of the model number for the LG one. That would be another choice.
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Eastcoasthandle said:
Samsung do not have bad input lag.:confused:
People I know play with them all the time using BF2 and never thought they were out done do to input lag.
I would actually recommend the 244T, it has good color reproduction, very little ghosting, works well in every resolution, no banding issues, good customer service, etc
Overall a solid monitor.
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Umm the Samsung 215T has the worst input lag on the market ..so much so if you goto any website that has monitor reviews or any forum with a sticky on recommended monitors this will likely be one of the first things pointed out. I also experienced input lag when i bought and returned this monitor.
 
Maddie said:
I wonder how good this Westinghouse 24" monitor is? They are closed out at Best Buy and no longer there. But, they are on there Corporate Website on a auction.

So, you can buy these for $200. Are they worth it, or should I just save up for the Dell 2407WFP?

Thoughts...
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But, they are on there Corporate Website on a auction.
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Where do you see that at?
 
I think I will just get the Dell. The reviews on the 2407 are great.
 
Every time I've spent money on computers it was always best spent on the sole interaction between the computer and the richest of human interfaces. Most recently I dumped over a day's wages on a 37" display. In five minutes I knew it was one of the better investments I've made- stocks and real estate included.
 
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