2 problems p III

crossrder

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can the slot 1 p3 933 be swapped into slot 1 location of p3 600

what is overclocking and can the p3 600 be overclocked
remember i'm a dinosuar and not to savy but attentive
 
Im not sure about your processor questions but overclocking your processor is increasing its speed,ussualy by increasing its frontside bus in the bios,Try going to google and type overclocking guide there are some good guides out there,most processors can be overclocked if your bios allows it if it doesnt you can get some software to do it like clockgen.

Hope this helps.
 
Edit: I stand corrected, Intel did make 933MHz Slot 1 chips. You can swap it with your Slot 1 600MHz chip and it should work fine.

As for your second question, if you don't have any prior knowledge or experience with overclocking, I wouldn't recommend it. Older chips such as these have no thermal protection measures, so if you mess up it would be very easy to damage or kill a chip. It is possible, but unless you really know what you're doing there is a big risk of failure.
 
I've been working with a Slot 1 PIII system myself and this was a page I found useful, granted I was looking to overclock it not replace the processor, but it had some useful info.

You have a PM
 
Well since you already mentioned both processors being SLOT 1, it would really come down to your motherboard. ( yes they made slot 1's all the way to 1ghz) The 600mhz slot 1 P3 probably uses a 100mhz FSB and the 933 P3 probably used a 133 FSB. Check to make sure the motherboard will run at 133. Other than that make sure the two processors are at the same voltage ( should say on top of the casing) and if not make sure the motherboard will run at the other voltage.
 
crossrder said:
what is overclocking and can the p3 600 be overclocked

Overclocking is the process of forcing the computer components (primarily the CPU), to run at a faster or higher rate than it was sold at. If you raise the speed of that P3-600 processor from 600 to 601... you have overclocked the system as it is running 1MHz faster than it was sold.

The problem with overclocking the Pentium2 and Pentium3 SLOT type processors is that fact that adding an aftermarket heatsink required disassembly of the cartridge the processor is encased in. While many enthusiasts had no problems doing this, it's not something for the faint of heart. At this point in time, you'd be hard pressed to find any retailer that even carries heatsinks for the SLOT type processors. The chips can be overclocked with the factory heatsinks... but they were pretty crappy designs.
 
^^ taking apart a slot 1 type processor actually is not THAT hard. I was messing with mine a while back and all that you have to do is just slide out the card like you would a stick of RAM, and there is a small metal bracket on the side that does not have the HS, you slide that off, and the HS should pull straight off. Finding a replacement will be difficult, but check Ebay, you can always find useful stuff on there. If you can't find an upgrade for it, then just clean off the HS base and the die of the processor (BE VERY CAREFUL, its an exposed blue die and even a tiny scratch will render the processor useless) and apply some AS5. Thats what I did and it dropped my temps a decent bit.

As for overclocking the slot one processors. The best way I know to do this is using the P2B motherboard by Asus (the one I have) it can be set to either have a 66, 100, or 133mhz FSB and the way it determines what setting to use is by using either pin B23 or B27 (Its B2X I dont remember exactly though) and if you can render that pin unusable than the motherboard automatically sets it to 133, which on a 600mhz PIII that uses 100mhz will overclock it. There is also a way to adjust the multiplier VIA jumpers on the motherboard, but I haven't found a site that gives a diagram of different configurations for different settings. One of the sites of used though is this one however, and its pretty useful I found. http://www.overclockers.com/tips296/index.asp
 
kill4killin said:
^^ taking apart a slot 1 type processor actually is not THAT hard.

No it's not... same for the current generation of AMDs... I don't think taking off the IHS is that hard.... but how many people are willing to do so??? especially when....

crossrder said:
remember i'm a dinosuar and not to savy

I never used a P2B although I did consider them.... back then I was an Abit "enthusiast" and used the BX-6 and BH-6.... awesome boards. Loved what they did for my Celeron 266, Celeron 300, Celeron 300a, P3-400 and P3-800. Overclocked the crap outta all those chips. Celeron 300A.... ahh the memories of having a 450MHz system when the max processor at the time was 400MHz :D
I think my e-Penis was equivalent to John Holmes' back then.
 
The PIII 600MHz uses a 133MHz FSB(4.5x133MHz), so it won't be easy to find a motherboard that you can use to overclock one.
 
man, some of this information is great. anyone feel like putting it together for posterity on the wiki?
 
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