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2 Mic's one input?

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coffee33

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Me and my good friend want to both be recording our show at the sametime but on 2 mics so we can walk about and both have good audio. We do a comedy geek tech show and quality is importain.
We checked into mic slpitters but radio shack said bad idea.
We checked into mixers and they said that would work.
I have also heard I could use the line in and mic inputs at the same time from my onboard sound....would this work and what software do I have to use?

Ty so much and heres our audio cast with only one mic http://www.geek2us.com
Take care
 
Since it's only two mics, you can make a custom cable to record it to a single stereo track. Here's what it'll do:
Code: 
       / [ ring for mic 1 -------- ring
jack 1 \ [ tip for mic 1  ---\
                             +---- tip
       / [ tip for mic 2  ---/
jack 2 \ [ ring for mic 2 -------- sleeve
You'll want 2 mono jacks and 1 stereo plug.
jack
plug
The mics will go into the jacks, and the plug to the recording system.

Note that this isn't expandable; if you step up to 3 mics you're SOL.

 
unhappy_mage said:
Since it's only two mics, you can make a custom cable to record it to a single stereo track. Here's what it'll do:
Code: 
       / [ ring for mic 1 -------- ring
jack 1 \ [ tip for mic 1  ---\
                             +---- tip
       / [ tip for mic 2  ---/
jack 2 \ [ ring for mic 2 -------- sleeve
You'll want 2 mono jacks and 1 stereo plug.
jack
plug
The mics will go into the jacks, and the plug to the recording system.

Note that this isn't expandable; if you step up to 3 mics you're SOL.

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Thats way over our heads hehe. Thanks for trying though :)
 
coffee33 said:
Thats way over our heads hehe. Thanks for trying though :)
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Why not approach it as an opportunity to learn something about electronics?
 
mikeblas said:
Why not approach it as an opportunity to learn something about electronics?
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We don't have the time. We have a show to do very soon.
 
coffee33 said:
We're limited on funds.
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You're nit picking over $10?

Anyway, a mixer is the way to go. When I was in high school, I had the opportunity to use a mixer with multiple microphones and it worked good. For 50$us, that's a good price.

Also, im not sure what type of microphones your using, but sometimes the line input will not provide enough gain for the passive mic.... That's why microphone inputs usually have a 20dB boost option in the software.

~Hope this helps
 
towert7 said:
You're nit picking over $10?

Anyway, a mixer is the way to go. When I was in high school, I had the opportunity to use a mixer with multiple microphones and it worked good. For 50$us, that's a good price.

Also, im not sure what type of microphones your using, but sometimes the line input will not provide enough gain for the passive mic.... That's why microphone inputs usually have a 20dB boost option in the software.

~Hope this helps
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$10 is a lot when your limited heh.
Plus we need it yesterday and I'm picking it up from our local radio shack tonight.
We're using 2 standerd computer mics until we can get wireless.
Thanks
 
unhappy_mage said:
Since it's only two mics, you can make a custom cable to record it to a single stereo track. Here's what it'll do:
Code: 
       / [ ring for mic 1 -------- ring
jack 1 \ [ tip for mic 1  ---\
                             +---- tip
       / [ tip for mic 2  ---/
jack 2 \ [ ring for mic 2 -------- sleeve
You'll want 2 mono jacks and 1 stereo plug.
jack
plug
The mics will go into the jacks, and the plug to the recording system.

Note that this isn't expandable; if you step up to 3 mics you're SOL.

Click to expand...



This would actually be wrong it should be:


Code: 
       / [ tip for mic 1 -------- tip
jack 1 \ [ ring for mic 1  ---\
                             +---- sleeve
       / [ ring for mic 2  ---/
jack 2 \ [ tip for mic 2 -------- ring

The way you had it wired the 2 mics would be out of phase. Also most mic jacks on a computer are not stereo so this would have to be used on a line in which would probably not produce useful results.
 
Hey guys I need a pre amp with the radio shack one huh cause its not working? If I order the other one it says something about a mic pre amp....so if I do is this all I need?
 
coffee33 said:
Hey guys I need a pre amp with the radio shack one huh cause its not working? If I order the other one it says something about a mic pre amp....so if I do is this all I need?
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What do you have it connected to on the computer (and how is it connected?)?

Silly question, but are the mic's on... are the volumes up, is the power switch on.............. is it plugged into the ac outlet?

If you have the volumes up on everything to full, you should be able to hear it without a bass boost if you talk loud enough.
 
towert7 said:
What do you have it connected to on the computer (and how is it connected?)?

Silly question, but are the mic's on... are the volumes up, is the power switch on.............. is it plugged into the ac outlet?

If you have the volumes up on everything to full, you should be able to hear it without a bass boost if you talk loud enough.
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2 labtec computer mics
a 4 channel rs mixer everything is on and pluged into the LINE-IN on the back of the puter.
 
coffee33 said:
2 labtec computer mics
a 4 channel rs mixer everything is on and pluged into the LINE-IN on the back of the puter.

I tried just pluging the mic dirrectly into the LI but I still get nothing. Line-in has been selected.
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Hehe, I listened to one of your audio files, and boy........ your right..... you need a mixer.
PS, office space = #1!!!!

Anyway! HOW are you connecting it to the line-input. What I mean is, what type of a cable? Where is it comming out of from the mixer, and you already said where its connected to the computer.
(Example: "I have the output on the mixer connected to the line-in on the computer using a RCA to 1/8" mini cable with the mixer set to mono".)

Assuming you have it connected right, lets make sure its set for recording.
goto control panel, goto sound and audio advices.
Click the audio tab, click the volume button in the "sound recording" section. Make sure line-in is selected with volume up to full. Being geeks, im sure this is set correctly. At this point you should be able to record.

If you want to hear it on your computer, then open the audio play control panel, make sure line-in is not muted and the volume is up to full.

Lastly, while your in the audio play control panel, for the "play control", click the advanced button and make sure "Digital output only" is not checked. (not sure if you have this option).

~Hope this helps
 
towert7 said:
Hehe, I listened to one of your audio files, and boy........ your right..... you need a mixer.
PS, office space = #1!!!!

Anyway! HOW are you connecting it to the line-input. What I mean is, what type of a cable? Where is it comming out of from the mixer, and you already said where its connected to the computer.
(Example: "I have the output on the mixer connected to the line-in on the computer using a RCA to 1/8" mini cable with the mixer set to mono".)

Assuming you have it connected right, lets make sure its set for recording.
goto control panel, goto sound and audio advices.
Click the audio tab, click the volume button in the "sound recording" section. Make sure line-in is selected with volume up to full. Being geeks, im sure this is set correctly. At this point you should be able to record.

If you want to hear it on your computer, then open the audio play control panel, make sure line-in is not muted and the volume is up to full.

Lastly, while your in the audio play control panel, for the "play control", click the advanced button and make sure "Digital output only" is not checked. (not sure if you have this option).

~Hope this helps
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Hey digital was on so stay right there and Im rebooting and trying again hehe ty for helping man...brb to test it!
 
towert7 said:
Hehe, I listened to one of your audio files, and boy........ your right..... you need a mixer.
PS, office space = #1!!!!

Anyway! HOW are you connecting it to the line-input. What I mean is, what type of a cable? Where is it comming out of from the mixer, and you already said where its connected to the computer.
(Example: "I have the output on the mixer connected to the line-in on the computer using a RCA to 1/8" mini cable with the mixer set to mono".)

Assuming you have it connected right, lets make sure its set for recording.
goto control panel, goto sound and audio advices.
Click the audio tab, click the volume button in the "sound recording" section. Make sure line-in is selected with volume up to full. Being geeks, im sure this is set correctly. At this point you should be able to record.

If you want to hear it on your computer, then open the audio play control panel, make sure line-in is not muted and the volume is up to full.

Lastly, while your in the audio play control panel, for the "play control", click the advanced button and make sure "Digital output only" is not checked. (not sure if you have this option).

~Hope this helps
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Can you call me if you give you my # this thing is making me insane heheh
 
Mister X said:
That explains it.
That Radio Shack mixer is made to work with Dynamic microphones and as such it does not provide any power to your microphones. :eek:

Add these crummy mics to your partSEXpress order and you will be all set in no time. ;)
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=248-626
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Thats what I told my buddy lastnight...

So if I buy the one mixer you posted then we don't need the powered mics right?

Ty
 
Mister X said:
That explains it.
That Radio Shack mixer is made to work with Dynamic microphones and as such it does not provide any power to your microphones. :eek:
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MisterX, what other types of microphones are there besides dynamic and condenser?
 
towert7 said:
MisterX, what other types of microphones are there besides dynamic and condenser?
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I have the CHEAP labtec Mic's...those are POS-Mics hehe.
So what do I need to do guys...I can take back this POS mixer and get the one in the other link but I need to know fast cause we have a show soon hehe

I'm on my way to take the mic's to Radio Shack and I will just use 1 mic for now for the show until I can get the right equipment.
Ty
 
coffee33... dude stop wasting your time with Radio Shack crap.
Do you have a Guitar center or other music store in your town? ;)
 
Mister X said:
coffee33... dude stop wasting your time with Radio Shack crap.
Do you have a Guitar center or other music store in your town? ;)
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I hear ya hehe No more RS ever hehe
No...I live in a smaaaalllll town outside of carson City.
I wonder why that rs mixer didn't work though...kinda scares me from trying any other mixers.
My line-in wont even do anything with just a mic dirrectly into it.
If anything we were going to order the one you posted but we have to make sure we get EVERYTHING in one shot cause we have a BIG show on the 12th of this month. We're going to have an audience of 50 or more...(big for us) and I don't want to have only 1 mic lol.
Ty
 
Don't feel rained on.... I know all about living in a small town.
Or in my case a village. ;)
I also know the Radio Shack routine because for me that is a ten minute drive Vs a 1 hour drive to the closest Music store.
Radio Shack does in fact sell microphones that will work with that preamp you bought but (as is always the case) they are overpriced and pretty crappy.


I wonder why that rs mixer didn't work though...kinda scares me from trying any other mixers.
My line-in wont even do anything with just a mic dirrectly into it.
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Six of one and a half dozen of the other here.
You have the same problem in both situations.... you are not powering the microphone's internal "buffer" so it doesn't work for beans.
The easy fix is to replace the electret microphone's you are using now and avoid the whole power thing altogether. :D
The catch is you got to spend some money or you are gonna be spending a lot of your time fixing the recordings you make.
 
If you get the mic's MisterX listed, don't forget you need to tack on two XLR cables for the mics (they don't come with them from what I read). Still a very good price for 3 el'cheapo microphones.

Hey, just out of curiosity, have you tried the mixer and microphones on another computer. From the sounds of it.......... it just seems like there is a computer problem... or you don't have it connected correctly. (im leaning more towards the computer problem, if you plug it directly into the mobo and it does'nt work.)........ oh.............. you do have onboard audio Enabled in the motherboard BIOS;.................... right? :eek:

~Hope this helps
 
Hey thanks guys for taking the time to help us, we both are going nuts over this hehe. I do have the audio enabled in the bios and your right I should of checked on another computer before returning but I'm pretty sure the mics weren't getting powered. I did reinstall my soundmax drivers and still nothing.
Damn, is there a sound card with 2-mic ports that work and record at the sametime? lol
ty all
 
coffee33 said:
Hey thanks guys for taking the time to help us, we both are going nuts over this hehe. I do have the audio enabled in the bios and your right I should of checked on another computer before returning but I'm pretty sure the mics weren't getting powered. I did reinstall my soundmax drivers and still nothing.
Damn, is there a sound card with 2-mic ports that work and record at the sametime? lol
ty all
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Yea, but it would probably be cheaper to just get a mixer and microphones.... ^_^
Sound cards with multiple dedicated microphone inputs seem to start around 65$us
And then you would need software that can record multiple inputs at the same time......
 
towert7 said:
Yea, but it would probably be cheaper to just get a mixer and microphones.... ^_^
Sound cards with multiple dedicated microphone inputs seem to start around 65$us
And then you would need software that can record multiple inputs at the same time......
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Audacity wouldn't cut it?

Ok, guess I save up some funds and do it the right way :)
Ty for all your help!
 
get that behriger mixer.... dont use computer mics with it because they sound like shit... get to akg or something of that sort mics that run XLR to the board... there is a reason that mixers have xlr inputs... use them.... then get a good quality (hosa) 1/4" to 3.5mm stereo cable and run that into the line in to your computer... you should be set and have a decent audio qualtiy... it shouldnt cost you more then a hundred bux.... www.allprosound.com
 
Footer4321 said:
get that behriger mixer.... dont use computer mics with it because they sound like shit... get to akg or something of that sort mics that run XLR to the board... there is a reason that mixers have xlr inputs... use them.... then get a good quality (hosa) 1/4" to 3.5mm stereo cable and run that into the line in to your computer... you should be set and have a decent audio qualtiy... it shouldnt cost you more then a hundred bux.... www.allprosound.com
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Awesome...sounds like I have some pennies to roll and I shall be good :)
Ty for the help!
Coffee
 
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