2.4c vs 2.8e

[ziddey]

I guess it's time for me to start upgrading. And It looks like I'm staying Intel yet again because of hyperthreading. I'm going to be doing it piece by piece, and cpu is first. What would you all recommend, the 2.4c or the 2.8e? It's $147 vs. $182. I doubt that I'll be able to overclock much until I pickup a new motherboard, which won't be until around Christmas time. So for now, I'll be running my 845pe up at 200fsb or slightly more.

Thanks

 

[BigTaf]

good luck getting the pressy to run on that board(2.8e) its not gonna happen, I dont think the 2.4c will work either as i do not beleive your board supports Hyper Threading or 800mhz FSB.

if you are thinking of overclocking, I have owned a 2.4c which i replaced with a 2.8e

My 2.4c would do 3240mhz
My 2.8e will do 3414mhz but requires good cooling in order to do so

 

[Spree]

good luck getting the pressy to run on that board(2.8e) its not gonna happen, I dont think the 2.4c will work either as i do not beleive your board supports Hyper Threading or 800mhz FSB.

if you are thinking of overclocking, I have owned a 2.4c which i replaced with a 2.8e

My 2.4c would do 3240mhz
My 2.8e will do 3414mhz but requires good cooling in order to do so

You can't say a 2.8E WILL do 3414mhz, we all know it comes down to the luck of the draw, altho I think it SHOULD do 3.4ghz+.

 

[BigTaf]

You can't say a 2.8E WILL do 3414mhz, we all know it comes down to the luck of the draw, altho I think it SHOULD do 3.4ghz+.

of course you cant thats a given

however the pressys have shown time a time again be very scalable if you can get the temps down.

So perhaps my statement was a little too general, but it was accurate

 

[lithium726]

You can't say a 2.8E WILL do 3414mhz, we all know it comes down to the luck of the draw, altho I think it SHOULD do 3.4ghz+.

he siad "my 2.8e will" not "a 2.8e will"

he just gave his expierence with the chip.

 

[ziddey]

alright. what defines good cooling then? im planning on a xp-90 probably.

i know i wont have a problem running 200fsb on this board, but i wont be able to go further than 227 max

and yes, the 845pe's do support ht

so with that being the case, i still wonder.

this is difficult... id have to pass 3.4 or something like that for the d to start having gains eh

and its quite hot up there

hmmm 14x250=3500. nice number i guess

maybe ill do it

 

[Spree]

he siad "my 2.8e will" not "a 2.8e will"

he just gave his expierence with the chip.

sorry my bad, reading too quick

 

[E4g1e]

alright. what defines good cooling then? im planning on a xp-90 probably.

i know i wont have a problem running 200fsb on this board, but i wont be able to go further than 227 max

and yes, the 845pe's do support ht

so with that being the case, i still wonder.

this is difficult... id have to pass 3.4 or something like that for the d to start having gains eh

and its quite hot up there

hmmm 14x250=3500. nice number i guess

maybe ill do it

Don't put a 2.8E P4 onto a 845PE-based mobo! The voltage regulators on such older motherboards cannot handle the demands of Prescott-based CPUs.

 

[ziddey]

Don't put a 2.8E P4 onto a 845PE-based mobo! The voltage regulators on such older motherboards cannot handle the demands of Prescott-based CPUs.

even if the new bios makes it so these will be able to boot? i guess youre right :\

im probably goign to be waiting for the revision e models to get cheaper anyway

 

[lithium726]

even if the new bios makes it so these will be able to boot? i guess youre right :\

im probably goign to be waiting for the revision e models to get cheaper anyway

yeah but hte voltage regulators have nothing to dow ith the bios, they were made for northwoods and cant really handle presscotts.. remember when they first came out and all the "prescott ready" boards were having alot of problems with them?

cheaper is always better

 

[E4g1e]

even if the new bios makes it so these will be able to boot? i guess youre right :\

im probably goign to be waiting for the revision e models to get cheaper anyway

Sorry that you're confused by this, but it's a HARDWARE issue. The BIOS upgrades/updates will NOT add Prescott compatibility to a mobo which was designed and manufactured before Prescott was even on the drawing board. You'll have to completely replace your motherboard if you ever want to run a 2.8E.

 

[ziddey]

nono im not confused

i understand exactly what youre talking about

but im saying that the bios update allows for the motherboard to even function at all with this cpu

i know the longevity is greatly affected, but i wonder how long? a month? a week?

 

[MemoryInAGarden]

nono im not confused

i understand exactly what youre talking about

but im saying that the bios update allows for the motherboard to even function at all with this cpu

i know the longevity is greatly affected, but i wonder how long? a month? a week?

I would say the board might last a few weeks, maybe not even that. They simply weren't built to handle the power sucking of a Prescott.

 

[fore1337]

good luck getting the pressy to run on that board(2.8e) its not gonna happen, I dont think the 2.4c will work either as i do not beleive your board supports Hyper Threading or 800mhz FSB.

i845 chipset does support Hyper-Threadding.
I suggest getting your new chip from someone like Outpost, and then you can get the free crappy ECS Motherboard along with it! then you can upgrade the mobo @ your leisure.

 

[ziddey]

i845 chipset does support Hyper-Threadding.
I suggest getting your new chip from someone like Outpost, and then you can get the free crappy ECS Motherboard along with it! then you can upgrade the mobo @ your leisure.

anyone know how well that board oc's? i mean, if i can get that to 250fsb, thats running 12x250=3ghz out the boot

id be satisfied with that until i got something better

 

[eViL_M@LuM]

I have a 2.8E that will do 3.6 on crappy air, has booted 4ghz into windows but overheated before anything else. all on 1.525V, these things use lower voltages so I dont know where the safety point is. Right now it's at 3.5 on default voltage.