1920x1200 gaming hardware

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cahl

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So I've searched around some, and I haven't seen anyone reccomend what kind of hardware you need for 1920x1200 gaming.

I'm thinking about getting:

1x Antec Performance One P180 Miditower, Silver
1x MIST 500W, 20/24 pins, S-ATA
1x Asus A8N-SLI Premium, nForce4 SLI,Socket -939, Super Cooling pipe
1x AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2.2GHz Socket 939 1MB
1x Scythe Ninja CPU Cooler For All Intel/AMD 0dB
1x XFX GeForce 7800GTX 256MB GDDR3, HDTV 450MHz
2x Corsair XMS3200C2 DDR-DIMM 1024 PC3200 64Meg x 8
1x Plextor DVD recorder PX-716SA SATA
1x Creative SB X-Fi XtremeMusic PCI
2x Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 300GB SATA 8MB 7200RPM NCQ
1x Logitech diNovo Media Desktop

Would it do? Any inputs/reccomendations?
 
I play my games @ 1920x1200 runs fine on me system. Cost me a pretty penny though

but your system u stated should be fine :D
 
What kind of monitor are you going to use? Make sure it can handle those res
 
1. Get a decent PSU. Switch out that "MIST" thing for an Antec, OCZ, PCP&C, Seasonic, or Fortron.

2. Switch out the X2 4200+ for an Opteron 170. Much better OC capabilities (mine is running at 2.8GHz on stock voltage).

3. Get a fan for that Ninja. It's not going to be sufficient otherwise.

You seem to have a good bit of money, so here are the links to my recommendations.

Antec TPII-550W SLI-Ready PSU

AMD Opteron 170 Dual-Core s939

Panaflo 120mm M1A
 
Exactly what PSU is that? I have never heard of it. For something like that I would suggest the Seasonic S12-500. I would get rid of the SLI motherboard, it is just a waste of money. I would suggest the Epox NF4 Ultra board. Get an Opteron 165 and overclock it. I don't know how well the Scythe Ninja performs, but I would check out others such as the TT Big Typhoon or any of the Thermalright products. I personally would go with a 7800GT sionce the 7800GTx isn't very reasonably priced, but pick whatever you want. Just buy some cheap Crucial Value RAM rather then wasting your money on 'performance' RAM. Why so much for a DVD burner? I would suggest just getting a NEC 3540A. Somebody else can cover the sound card. If you were planning on running RAID-0, forget about it. It will offer no performance advntage in gaming and significantly reduces reliability. I would just suggest getting a Hitachi DeskStar 7K500. It is even faster then the Raptor in some areas. Also, the keyboard and mouse are too expensive IMO.
 
discochan said:
What kind of monitor are you going to use? Make sure it can handle those res
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I can do 1820x1200 fine with hl2 on my x850xt
 
Antec Performance One P180 Miditower
Seasonic S12 PSU 600W, 120mm, SLI, 4 SATA, ATX/EPS, 20/24pin
Asus A8N-SLI Premium, nForce4 SLI,Socket -939, Super Cooling pipe, PCI-Ex16
AMD Opteron 170, 2.0GHz, Socket 939, 2MB, BOXED
Corsair TWINX2048-3200C2 DDR-DIMM 2048MB Kit w/two matched CMX1024-3200C2 DIMMs
XFX GeForce 7800GTX 256MB GDDR3, HDTV 490MHz, PCI-Express,Dual-DVI/ViVo,Retail
Hitachi Deskstar 7K500 500GB SATA2 16MB 7200RPM NCQ

Swapped the CPU, as suggested by Bona Fide.
Swapped the PSU & HD, as suggested by KoolDrew.

Now I just need to get some cooling for that one, pref one that is silent and will be able to OC it.
Will I need the 64bit version of Windows XP? If no, will I still be able to use it? I'm guessing there aren't that much 64bit drivers and or software around?
 
serbiaNem said:
Xbox360? :)
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Kek .. Consoles can burn in hell for all I care ^^
Now to find a store that sells that SI-120 .. have to import one I think, isn't sold here in Norway. Overclock.co.uk I suppose.
 
KoolDrew said:
Exactly what PSU is that? I have never heard of it. For something like that I would suggest the Seasonic S12-500. I would get rid of the SLI motherboard, it is just a waste of money. I would suggest the Epox NF4 Ultra board. Get an Opteron 165 and overclock it. I don't know how well the Scythe Ninja performs, but I would check out others such as the TT Big Typhoon or any of the Thermalright products. I personally would go with a 7800GT sionce the 7800GTx isn't very reasonably priced, but pick whatever you want. Just buy some cheap Crucial Value RAM rather then wasting your money on 'performance' RAM. Why so much for a DVD burner? I would suggest just getting a NEC 3540A. Somebody else can cover the sound card. If you were planning on running RAID-0, forget about it. It will offer no performance advntage in gaming and significantly reduces reliability. I would just suggest getting a Hitachi DeskStar 7K500. It is even faster then the Raptor in some areas. Also, the keyboard and mouse are too expensive IMO.
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Um SLI is not a waste for that high resolution... If Im not mistaken, playing fear with max settings on such a high res wont exactly be lag free on a single GTX.
 
paintb4707 said:
Um SLI is not a waste for that high resolution... If Im not mistaken, playing fear with max settings on such a high res wont exactly be lag free on a single GTX.
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So, I should get two of them? One give or take doesn't affect my budget that much. I just thought that two would not give me 50% more preformance?
 
IF you have the money get 1 or 2 gtx 512.

in games they smoke everything and you will be able to play Quake 4 on ultra settings

everything else looks good
 
Render said:
IF you have the money get 1 or 2 gtx 512.

in games they smoke everything and you will be able to play Quake 4 on ultra settings

everything else looks good
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Seconded. Playing at such high resolutions, especially in newer games, will benefit significantly from a high frame buffer. Possibly to the point that 1 512 gtx > 256 gtx sli.... Have there been any comparisons done of those two setups?
 
RavenD said:
Seconded. Playing at such high resolutions, especially in newer games, will benefit significantly from a high frame buffer. Possibly to the point that 1 512 gtx > 256 gtx sli.... Have there been any comparisons done of those two setups?
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I googled around some, and found this:
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_7800_gtx_512mb/page18.asp

After reading that, I guess I'll get one 512 GTX, and if it doesn't run smoothly, I'll get another one :)
 
Here is what I would change:

1x Antec Performance One P180 Miditower, Silver
1x Antec TruePower-II 550W (I have it and love it)
1x Asus A8N-SLI Premium
1x AMD Opteron 170
1x Thermalright SI-120
1x Nexus Real Silent 120mm
1x BFG GeForce 7800GTX 512MB
1x Crucial Ballistix 2x1GB DDR-500 PC40000
1x Plextor DVD recorder PX-716SA SATA
1x Creative SB X-Fi XtremeMusic PCI
1x Hitachi Deskstar 7K500 500GB SATA2 16MB

The RAM and HSF will help in your overclocking endeavour, and the PSU/video card just rock.
 
sac_tagg said:
Here is what I would change:

1x Antec Performance One P180 Miditower, Silver
1x Antec TruePower-II 550W (I have it and love it)
1x Asus A8N-SLI Premium
1x AMD Opteron 170
1x Thermalright SI-120
1x Nexus Real Silent 120mm
1x BFG GeForce 7800GTX 512MB
1x Crucial Ballistix 2x1GB DDR-500 PC40000
1x Plextor DVD recorder PX-716SA SATA
1x Creative SB X-Fi XtremeMusic PCI
1x Hitachi Deskstar 7K500 500GB SATA2 16MB

The RAM and HSF will help in your overclocking endeavour, and the PSU/video card just rock.
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http://www.asus.com.tw/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=539&l1=3&l2=15&l3=0
Does the MB support that ram?
 
sac_tagg said:
RAM is RAM, no discrimination here. The only board with RAM issues is (not surprisingly) DFI. Do it.
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Ok!

Then then the revised list looks like this:
1x AMD Opteron 170, 2.0GHz, Socket 939, 2MB
1x Thermalright Si-120
1x Nexus 92mm Real Silent Fan, Black, 19,2 dB(A), 27 CFM, 1500 RPM
1x Antec Performance One P180 Miditower
1x Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe, nForce4 SLI X16, Socket-939, Dual-GbLAN, Firew, PCI-Ex16 <- supposedly better to OC.
1x Creative SB X-Fi XtremeMusic PCI
1x Crucial PC4000 BallistiX DDR 2048MB CL3 Kit w/two matched,2.8V,128Meg x 64,184pi
1x Hitachi Deskstar 7K500 500GB SATA2 16MB 7200RPM NCQ
1x NEC ND-3550 IDE Black OEM DVD+R/+RW/DVD-R/-RW (Dual layer)
1x Seasonic S12 600W, 120mm, SLI, 4 SATA, ATX/EPS, 20/24pin
1x XFX GeForce 7800GTX 512MB GDDR3 XXX, PCI-Express, Dual-DVI/HDTV/ViVo

I just hope the mobo supports the Opteron out of the box :)
 
That system will be quite a performer but I still think there are games out there that will struggle to play smoothly at 1920x1200 with only a single GTX.
 
aug1516 said:
That system will be quite a performer but I still think there are games out there that will struggle to play smoothly at 1920x1200 with only a single GTX.
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This is the 512MB higher-clocked GTX. Much different than the 256MB one.
 
Thats a beast of a machine you got there. But is sata2 faster than sata 3.0gb/s?

Also, imo scrap the P180. Li-Lis are the best cases on the market. I would never put a 2k+ machine in anything less or even a mid-tower for that matter. I suggest looking into a full tower Li-Li.

And if money REALLY isnt an issue, you can go all out buying a Li-Li with a koolance wc system implemented into it from xoxide. Sexy isnt it?
 
paintb4707 said:
Thats a beast of a machine you got there. But is sata2 faster than sata 3.0gb/s?

Also, imo scrap the P180. Li-Lis are the best cases on the market. I would never put a 2k+ machine in anything less or even a mid-tower for that matter. I suggest looking into a full tower Li-Li.

And if money REALLY isnt an issue, you can go all out buying a Li-Li with a koolance wc system implemented into it from xoxide. Sexy isnt it?
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The only reason I'm getting that case is that it's supposedly very silent ..
Watercooling .. meh .. I've tried that and I had nothing but problems .. so no.
 
cahl said:
The only reason I'm getting that case is that it's supposedly very silent ..
Watercooling .. meh .. I've tried that and I had nothing but problems .. so no.
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A case cant be "silent" itself unless it was insolated with something. Its the stock fans that makes the difference. You have alot of hardware there, Id hate to see everying packed together in a tiny mid-tower. Im positive many people here can vow for a Li-Li case as their build quality is uncomparable. I wish I had a Li-Li in my possession, but I dont so I have no idea how loud their stock fans are.
 
You need to have the highest end SLI or even cards that don't exist yet, otherwise you need to tone down the graphics a ton or do what I do. Scale lower resolutions. I played FEAR all the way through @ 1280x800 4xAA 8XAF with settings otherwised maxed out and got 60 fps average. That setting was the best visual and performance setting for me. People playing Xbox 360 on monitors such as the 2405fpw will have to scale the graphics at about the same point playing 720p. To me scaling down graphics on a monitor such at the 2405fpw is no where near as big a deal as people make it out to be. It certainly isn't worth adding (to me anyays) $1500 worth of graphics cards to my pc for every other game that comes out. Just my 2 cents.
 
I think that the P180 is a great choice. It may not be the best looking or most durable case but the layout is great. The possibility of 4 120MM fans, the sound dampening and the lower compartment for the PSU all make it great. The fans that come with the case are not bad, they have switches to change the speed.
See my sig for specs of my system. I have a spcr black P180 with 4 nexus soft mounted fans. My system throws off some heat when under load and the thermal design of the case handles it with head room and does it very quietly with low speed fans.
I have had 2 Lian Li cases and they are nice but the P180 is a great case for a quiet high heat computer. The only cases that I would consider that Lian Li makes are the v1000/2000 series do to the compartments for the PSU and the use of 120mm fans. They are harder to control airflow wise than the P180. To understand what I am saying if you have not read this you should. http://silentpcreview.com/article255-page1.html
As far as SLI goes if you have the budget then get it I am glad that I did and would do it again.
 
If you're going with a 512mb GTX, and might be getting a second one for SLI, definitely go with the A8N32-SLI. No single card can saturate a PCI-e 8x bus, but from the benchmarks I've seen, GTX SLI benefits from 16 pci-e lanes per card, as opposed to just 8 per card. The gains would probably be even higher with 512mb GTX cards in SLI.
 
RavenD said:
If you're going with a 512mb GTX, and might be getting a second one for SLI, definitely go with the A8N32-SLI. No single card can saturate a PCI-e 8x bus, but from the benchmarks I've seen, GTX SLI benefits from 16 pci-e lanes per card, as opposed to just 8 per card. The gains would probably be even higher with 512mb GTX cards in SLI.
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I think I just wet myself
 
sac_tagg said:
This is the 512MB higher-clocked GTX. Much different than the 256MB one.
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Even so, do you really think a single 512MB GTX can run Fear at 1920x1200 without slow down?
 
The system in my sig is running all my games at 1920x1200 with no problems, and it's nothing special by todays standards.

Oh, though I guess that's without AA/AF for some of them :(
 
aug1516 said:
That system will be quite a performer but I still think there are games out there that will struggle to play smoothly at 1920x1200 with only a single GTX.
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I play at that res with one card , you just have to take the aa/AF down to earth a bit.
 
How do you figure the Opteron is going to work in that motherboard, aside from being the same socket type? Will the board recognize it as an Opteron, or as some generic A64?
 
The board will recognize it as an Athlon 64, but Cool n Quiet won't work. And you'll probably have to install the dual-core patch and hotfix.

Speaking from experience...
 
So after careful consideration, I've decided:

1x AMD Opteron 170, 2.0GHz, Socket 939, 2MB
1x Antec Performance One P180 Miditower
1x Seasonic S12 PSU 600W, 120mm, SLI, 4 SATA, ATX/EPS, 20/24pin
1x Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe, nForce4 SLI X16, Socket-939, Dual-GbLAN, Firew, PCI-Ex16
1x Zalman CNPS9500LED Ultra Quiet Heatsink
1x Crucial PC4000 BallistiX DDR 2048MB CL3 Kit w/two matched,2.8V,128Meg x 64
1x XFX GeForce 7800GTX 512MB GDDR3 XXX, PCI-Express, Dual-DVI/HDTV/ViVo, Retail
2x Hitachi Deskstar 7K500 250GB SATA2 8MB 7200RPM NCQ
 
Setup looking good. If you want to get some more quiet, I'd prefer Seagate or Samsung drives over the Hitachi, so you might want to look into that.
 
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