1700USD and big plans

86 5.0L

86 5.0L

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Hey guys, been browsing the forums for awhile, love the reviews, and I decided to ask here since I've heard/seen you guys are topnotch when it comes to PCs. I used to be on top of the PC market, reading up on the newest and latest, but after the AMD dual-cores came out I started keeping up less and less(life, what can you do, it calls from time to time :rolleyes: )

so now that I have the cash I have really no idea what to pick, heres more or less what Im thinking

***CPU: AMD, no doubt, OC'ing is a must, nothing crazy just decent OC'ing ability, Dual-core if its a good option

***MoBo: No clue, MSI has been good to me, not sure though

***Ram: 2GB atleast, I see DDR2 is the new thing, not up-to-date on it

***Video Card: :confused: yeah.....

***PSU: Seasonic XXX watts

***Case: Antec P180 in black

***DVD-RW: ???

yeah, so I cant really make up my mind, Im counting on you guys to sort me out :D
 
Cooler Master Centurion 5 $49.99
ASUS M2N4-SLI NF4 SLI AM2 motherboard $94.99
VGA EVGA 7950GT KO 512-P2-N635-AR R geforce $279.99
PSU FSPGROUP|FX600-GLN 600W 20+4 R beefy power $139.99
CPU AMD|A64 X2 5000+ AM2 2x512K R $335.00
MEM 1Gx2|OCZ DII800 OCZ2G8002GK R $229.99
FD 1.44MB|MTSMI D359M3D/D359M3B BK% $6.99
HD 150G|WD 10K 16M SATA WD1500AHFD $229.99
KB&MS MS|BASIC BLK VALUE PK PS2/US% $14.49
MTR SMSNG|LCD20"6MS DVI 205BWBlack $289.99 monitor
LITE-ON CD BURNER SOHR-5239V BK RT $18.99
DVD_BURN SAMSUNG|SH-S182M/BEBN BK % $32.99
LOGITECH X-530 BLK 5.1 SPEAKER OEM% $53.99

For a total of 1839.77 US dollars

Note this comes with a 20 inch widescreen lcd as well.
Drop speakers and possibly the raptor to a 400 gig seagate and you should be within your pricerange.
 
nice, nice, forgot to mention monitor is not included, I'll be upgrading to a 32" Samsung HD with 2xHDMI inputs and was hoping to us it as my monitor :D
 
defakto said:
Cooler Master Centurion 5 $49.99
ASUS M2N4-SLI NF4 SLI AM2 motherboard $94.99
VGA EVGA 7950GT KO 512-P2-N635-AR R geforce $279.99
PSU FSPGROUP|FX600-GLN 600W 20+4 R beefy power $139.99
CPU AMD|A64 X2 5000+ AM2 2x512K R $335.00
MEM 1Gx2|OCZ DII800 OCZ2G8002GK R $229.99
FD 1.44MB|MTSMI D359M3D/D359M3B BK% $6.99
HD 150G|WD 10K 16M SATA WD1500AHFD $229.99
KB&MS MS|BASIC BLK VALUE PK PS2/US% $14.49
MTR SMSNG|LCD20"6MS DVI 205BWBlack $289.99 monitor
LITE-ON CD BURNER SOHR-5239V BK RT $18.99
DVD_BURN SAMSUNG|SH-S182M/BEBN BK % $32.99
LOGITECH X-530 BLK 5.1 SPEAKER OEM% $53.99

For a total of 1839.77 US dollars

Note this comes with a 20 inch widescreen lcd as well.
Drop speakers and possibly the raptor to a 400 gig seagate and you should be within your pricerange.
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thats a pretty good setup though i personally would change a few things..

if youre going to stick with AMD this round then you MUST get a AM2 opteron..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...mit=ENE&Nty=1&Description=opteron+am2&Ntk=all
its also cheaper and you can benefit from the extra cache

if you can find it, the 7900GTO is the BEST bang for the buck performance video card in the market right now.. i picked one up for my friend from the egg for $250 a couple weeks ago. if not the 7950GT is excellent and if you wait until black friday you can pick one up for $200...

a $140 PSU seems overkill for that system as i went for a $50 500watt antec psu in my last build and it worked fine for me.

also you want to get a nice heatsink fan, i recommend the zalman 9700.. im not sure if itll fit into the centurion case very well.. (i had a fun time squeezing the zalman 9500 into a antec slk1650b case and considering that the 9700 is bigger than the 9500.....) if you cant find out for sure, then the zalman 9500 is just as good.
 
86 5.0L said:
I used to be on top of the PC market, reading up on the newest and latest, but after the AMD dual-cores came out I started keeping up less and less

so now that I have the cash I have really no idea what to pick, heres more or less what Im thinking

***CPU: AMD, no doubt, OC'ing is a must, nothing crazy just decent OC'ing ability, Dual-core if its a good option
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just curious, whats your reason for going AMD? in case you didnt know, intel currently holds the performance crown.
 
Ok lets try this setup

motherboard: $260 evga 680i sli motherboard
Processor: $312.99 e6600
ram: $209 2gb G.skill DDR800
hdd: $119.99 Samsung 400gb HD400LJ
gfx card: $469.99 EVGA 8800GTS
psu: $129.99 Seasonic S12 550w psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817151027
Case: $114.99 Antec P180
DVD burner: $29.99 Samsung 18X dvd burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827151133
Total: $1646.94

That system will basically kick the crap out of anything and will handle anything you want to throw at it :) You also have some money left over for a cpu cooler if you plan on doing some overclocking.

Note: I would've provided links for all of them but copy+paste wasn't working at the time ;)
 
i'm sorry, i don't have prices but.... these are about

centurion 5 kicks ass 50$
whichever good psu (600-700W) has a 20$ rebate this week on newegg (~100$, OCZ, fortron, etc etc)
get the 4400+ toledo and oc it, am2 oem (200$)
that 2gb kit above for 250~$
and that asus 95$ mobo
they have 18x dvd-rw for 30$ including s/h
do you need a second drive, floppy, or anything? i don't get these
on board sound is good enough, unless you are mixing music
get an 8800gtx for 599$
and get two 320gb perpendicular disks in raid 0 for 90$ each
good cpu cooler 50$ (zalman, typhoon, etc)


that's 50+100+200+250+95+30+600+180 = 1400~$


and if there is a different mobo that doesn't have sli, you can get that if it oc's better, but you can always get one of those front bay drive thingies with 250w or whatever to power a second gtx :D if you get a mobo that supports it

that's my $.02, and it will kick ass

if you want to spend that last 300$, like really need to, get a conroe e6600 and an evga 680i (300$ iirc + 275$ - 200 - 95) = net cost 280$ takes 1400$ right up to 1700$. thas nice

conroes are nice, but maybe a price drop on them will occur once kentsfields hit. idk, but would make sense

that's what i would buy. straight gaming capabilities
 
OK guys thanks for the input, been reading up on the market and made a somewhat list, also the reason Intel is a no-go, I have used Intels since Packard Bell was alive :eek: up until ~2001 when my last Intel desktop burst into flames, I had always had trouble with Intels, never could get them running nice and stable, made the switch with a Athlon and never looked back, It may seem like im a !!!!!! but AMD has more then enough pleased me with their CPUs and I know AMD wont let me down :cool:

Anyway heres my List:

CPU: AMD Opteron 1214 Santa Ana 2.2GHz $274.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819105040

Mobo: ASUS M2N4-SLI Socket AM2 $94.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131068

RAM: OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800 $249.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227139

Video Card: eVGA GeForce 8800GTS $469.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130071

HDD: WD Caviar 500GB SATA $174.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136014

PSU: OCZ GameXStream 700W $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817341002

DVD-RW: Samsung SH-S182D $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827151133

Case: Antec Performance I P180B $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129017

Heatsink: Zalman CNPS 9500 $53.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118004

For a Grand Total of 1627.92

I am very happy with this setup, anybody got any advice on to what would work better, please chime in.

I have extra floppy drives and a Logitech G7 :D keyboard is an standard HP one, decent enough, also I got a good enough 2.1 speaker setup enough to hold me over ;)
 
don't buy an AMD...with the new Core 2 Duo's out, that would be foolish and you'll be kicking yourself if you don't go with Intel.
 
86 5.0L said:
OK guys thanks for the input, been reading up on the market and made a somewhat list, also the reason Intel is a no-go, I have used Intels since Packard Bell was alive :eek: up until ~2001 when my last Intel desktop burst into flames, I had always had trouble with Intels, never could get them running nice and stable, made the switch with a Athlon and never looked back, It may seem like im a !!!!!! but AMD has more then enough pleased me with their CPUs and I know AMD wont let me down :cool:

Anyway heres my List:

CPU: AMD Opteron 1214 Santa Ana 2.2GHz $274.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819105040

Mobo: ASUS M2N4-SLI Socket AM2 $94.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131068

RAM: OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800 $249.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227139

Video Card: eVGA GeForce 8800GTS $469.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130071

HDD: WD Caviar 500GB SATA $174.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136014

PSU: OCZ GameXStream 700W $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817341002

DVD-RW: Samsung SH-S182D $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827151133

Case: Antec Performance I P180B $129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129017

Heatsink: Zalman CNPS 9500 $53.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118004

For a Grand Total of 1627.92

I am very happy with this setup, anybody got any advice on to what would work better, please chime in.

I have extra floppy drives and a Logitech G7 :D keyboard is an standard HP one, decent enough, also I got a good enough 2.1 speaker setup enough to hold me over
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looks good, if you plan on using sli in the future you should check if the asus board can do dual 16x pci-e lanes. also check if asus updated their bios to support the am2 opteron as its been released lately. ill check it out later but i gotta get to class now :eek:

edit: DONT BUY ANYTHING YET!!!!

THAT MOTHERBOARD WONT WORK WITH THE AM2 OPTERON!!!
a lot of am2 motherboards will need a bios update before they can work with the am2 opteron.

you'll want this motherboard instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128321
that motherboard is one of few boards out there right now that has support for the am2 opteron.

you should also know that both the asus board you listed and the gigabyte board i listed above only supports dual 8x pci-e lanes. they would be crippled in sli so theyre not recommended if you plan on using sli in the future. if you want to have the option of going sli later you would want to get a motherboard with the nforce 590 chipset like this dfi board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136014
 
welp, DFI here I come :D and heres the thing on the PSU, I need something to handle 8800s in SLI mode not right now but later I'll get a second 8800GTS :cool:
 
Heh, the Core2Duos run cooler, consume less power, and outperforms any amd counterpart. So basically, you want to spend the same amount of money on a hotter running AMD CPU that consumes more power and can't quite perform as good... heh, its also more likely to burst into flames now than a c2d :eek:
 
sowingseason said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103861
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Why buy a $700 CPU when you can get a $313 one that will give you the same performance or better?

AM2 is picky about DDR2. Its hard to tell someone something they don't want to hear. It's even harder for that person to hear it, lol. Right now, an AMD CPU is a bad way to spend $184 or more... but hey, its you're money. BTW, I have two AMD systems, lol... but they were built before intel jumped off the mhz myth wagon.
 
I would also look at an intel setup,

Get a C2D and i680 motherboard man.

This coming from a diehard AMD fan.
 
I have slept on this for awhile and I guess I came to my senses ;) Intel is looking pretty good right now, e6600 is pretty damn appealing, but whats a good mobo?
 
86 5.0L said:
I have slept on this for awhile and I guess I came to my senses ;) Intel is looking pretty good right now, e6600 is pretty damn appealing, but whats a good mobo?
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look at my build above it would make a perfect C2D setup :)
 
lol, my budgets in the title ;) I was thinking 8800gts, one now one later, I was hoping the OCZ gamer 700w one I posted in my list would be enough and it looks like it is :) oh and the monitor will be a 32" Samsung HDTV :eek:

well, I hope to play the latest and greatest games :D
 
AMD X2 4800+
DFI NF4 SLI-DR eXpert
OCZ/Mushkin 2x1GB DDR4 RAM
BFG 8800GTX Liquid Cooled
Dangerden TDX,D5,Thermochill,T-Line/Fillport,Tubing.
OCZ 700W GameXstream
Any Lian-Li Case :D
 
86 5.0L said:
I have slept on this for awhile and I guess I came to my senses ;) Intel is looking pretty good right now, e6600 is pretty damn appealing, but whats a good mobo?
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$311 - Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz
$260 - eVGA 122-CK-NF68-AR Socket T (LGA 775) NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI
$220 - OCZ Platinum Rev2 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 SDRAM DDR2-800 OCZ2P800R22GK
$470 - eVGA 640-P2-N821-AR GeForce 8800GTS 640MB
$145 - SeaSonic S12-600 ATX12V 600W
$105 - Antec Performance I P180B Full ATX Tower
$95 - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS 320GB 7200RPM SATA300 16MB Cache
$40 - Scythe SCNJ-1100P 120mm CPU HSF
$30 - NEC 18X DVD±R DVD Burner 7170A-0B
$6 - Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound 3.5g
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$1682 + tax and shipping

If thats over your budget, drop to a cheaper case and psu (but are still quite good):
$55 - COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW Black/Silver w/ Side Window
$50 - XClio GOODPOWER 500W ATX 500W
$102 - OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI ATX12V 600W ($120 - $15MIR)

When you upgrade to SLI, you can get a 300W GPU PSU FSP BoosterX:
$90 - FSP Group (Fortron Source) BoosterX 3, 300W ( Max. 400W ) SLI Graphic Power Supply
 
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