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CoRPS

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Alright.
I got a question for you guys.

I'm a little indescisive. I need some suggestions:
Should I get a Intel P4 2.4C with a Asus P4P800
OR
Should I get a Mobile 2400+ with a Abit NF-7

Either will be ran with a Zalman.
 
#1. the mobile 2400+ will cost you half as much so its not fair to compare.

#2. the mobile will still overclock the shit out of the 2.4c :D
 
Don't worry about the price.
Just which would be better to own? Which would show me better performance in Windows and Games?
 
mobile barton ofcourse.

If i could sell my 400sc intel setup I would switch back to amd so fast.

:(
 
If money is not a concern, I'd tend to think the 2.4c would be better. They usually overclock to 3+ghz, so it most likely would perform better than an overclocked mobile barton. Although most 2.4c's aren't really much cheaper than 2.6c's or 2.8c's, so those might make a better alternative too. I remember reading reviews on a mobile barton overclocked to 2.4ghz and it didn't really win very many benchies if any, compared to a 3.0c. For the price though, nothing can beat a mobile barton.
 
AMD will save you in the long run and extra cash to buy better Graphics card,upgrades,etc.
 
Hey didn't you notice that the people saying AMD have AMD systems....

Get the barton!

vv hehe!
 
That's a tough decision.

The 2.4C goes to 3.2GHz easily. Paired with high quality DDR400, you can do 5:4 with tight timings. Hard to beat.

The XP-M 2400+ I have seen gets up to 2.4-2.5GHz. Paired with high quality DDR400, you can do 1:1 with tight timings, OR high FSB with decent timings. That's hard to beat.

Then it comes down to what you do. For encoding stuff, "dummy" tasks... the P4 takes the lead. MP3 compression, video compression, etc etc. For everything else, they're pretty much even, depending on the overclock (2.5GHz with the Barton would be a lil faster than 3.2GHz though.... if bandwidth isn't needed. Bandwidth hungry tasks include 3D rendering.... etc etc, stuff I mentioned before)

Personally, I'd choose the Barton. Why? Cos it's cheaper. I know cost isn't an issue, but it should be! You could take the money and invest in a better gfx card! Faster HDDs, better memory. etc etc.

If you go with AMD, be sure to get the Abit NF7-S rev 2.0. The Epox 8rda+/3+ and DFI NFII Infinity are both great overclockers aswell... but it's just that the [H] loves the NF7-S... (and corsair... :D)
And if you go with the P4, get the Abit AI7 or IC7 instead...
 
Originally posted by KevC
If you go with AMD, be sure to get the Abit NF7-S rev 2.0.
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I could't find the 'rev 2.0' on the egg. Any links?
 
the problem is with either system the biggest cost will be the RAM, which is the same stuff between Intel and AMD.

It was easier to recommend AMD back when Intel had RDRAM, you'd save TONS of money on the proc AND mobo AND RAM!

Still, even just saving money on the proc is something...
 
No matter how many benchmarks are done, the comparison is simple:

AMD is good for gaming

Intel ,with its unofficial partnership with Microsoft, is good for any Windows based programs.
 
AMD of course! Unless of course you are doing rendering or so much audio/video encoding that you need to save a few seconds then go the Intel route.
 
Hey, look at the ratio in this thread between the people who own P4 rigs and Athlon rigs. What does that suggest to you? Athlon rocks!!
 
Get a Via Epia. Nevermind the people who will rant about the performance!
 
I would say the AMD system only because then you could save that extra cash and upgrade when A64 matures.
 
Well it's not really my money.
I'm mainly worried about the performance.
Within the next 3-4 days I'm ordering.

Going with this system setup:

AMD XP-M 2400+
Abit NF7-S
Copper Zalman 7000
2x256MB GeiL DDR400 (Dual Channel)
1x512MB Kingston HyperX DDR400
60GB Maxtor 7200RPM
GeForce FX5700Ultra
DVD
CD-RW

I'm hoping it will meet up to my expectations.
 
Uh, go with 2 sticks of the kingston, instead of one kingston and 2 geil. I think you got the whole dual channel thing mixed up...


EDIT: Also, how much is the 5700 ultra now? It might be worth your while to spend a bit more and get a 9800 Pro. Its only ~$220 @ the egg
 
Originally posted by Lime
Uh, go with 2 sticks of the kingston, instead of one kingston and 2 geil. I think you got the whole dual channel thing mixed up...


EDIT: Also, how much is the 5700 ultra now? It might be worth your while to spend a bit more and get a 9800 Pro. Its only ~$220 @ the egg
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^---what he said.
2x512GB matched RAM is the best setup. Mix 'n match is just asking for trouble.
 
Originally posted by Lime
Uh, go with 2 sticks of the kingston, instead of one kingston and 2 geil. I think you got the whole dual channel thing mixed up...


EDIT: Also, how much is the 5700 ultra now? It might be worth your while to spend a bit more and get a 9800 Pro. Its only ~$220 @ the egg
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that stuff is old hardware that he is reusing.

and i recommended the nf7 because you didnt want to spend that much money on a motherboard. now that you decided to get an nf7-s it puts it in the same price range as a dfi infinity which IMHO is a much better board.
 
I have also heard NF7-S doesn't play nicely with Zalman 7000, takes a little reading / work to get the 2 to play nicely.
 
My XP 2500 Mobile is running at 2300 MHz (200 X 11.5) at 1.65V with a Zalman CNPS7000A-CU. I don't think any Pentium 4 will EVER beat the price/performance of this chip. The XP-M just rocks.

Oh yeah and I shoehorned that Zalman on my NF7-S nicely. Just took some time and creativity.
 
Originally posted by CoRPS
Well it's not really my money.
I'm mainly worried about the performance.
Within the next 3-4 days I'm ordering.

Going with this system setup:

AMD XP-M 2400+
Abit NF7-S
Copper Zalman 7000
2x256MB GeiL DDR400 (Dual Channel)
1x512MB Kingston HyperX DDR400
60GB Maxtor 7200RPM
GeForce FX5700Ultra
DVD
CD-RW

I'm hoping it will meet up to my expectations.
Click to expand...

i tried something similar with my ram 2x256, 1x512. trust me dont do it. it's the biggest headache in the world
 
why would he spend 220 on a 5700 when he could spend 150 for a 9600XT that whips its ass in the majority of benches?

or for 220, the obvious choice is a 9800 pro though...
 
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