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Ultra X Connect-> First Hand Experiences Only

Do you like your Ultra X-Connect?

  • Love It - Works and Looks Great

    Votes: 39 29.8%

  • It's Ok - It Powers my System

    Votes: 19 14.5%

  • Don't Recommend

    Votes: 35 26.7%

  • Sux0rs OMG b0rk3d my box0r!!!!

    Votes: 38 29.0%
  • Total voters
    131
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Please respond only if you own or have owned or tested one of these PSUs. There has been a great deal of people saying they are bad or good for whatever reason. I think that first hand experiences will speak louder than what people read in forums and half assed reviews.

Thanks,
M
 
I have one and it works great. No problems yet. I read all the bad press on this board and others about this unit and was a little nervous with my purchase. I bought it anyway and it has worked flawlessly so far….
 
I have a Bestec 200w PSU in one of my HP computers and its worked flawlessly without any issues.

Does that mean its a high quality PSU? No.

The Ultra X-Connect power supply is manufactured by Powmax which makes generic power supplies used in cheap cases. The internal parts of the X-connect are not the same high quality components used in Antec, Enermax, OCZ, Fotron brand power supplies. It has tiny heatsinks for cooling which do not begin to measure up to what is found in a top quality power supply.

The ONLY reason people are so in love with these power supplies is because they are easily persuaded by looks and advertisements. They dont even bother to stop and wonder who manufactures it and what the quality is of the components used in it.

I've known several people that have bought one and it couldn't handle the higher-end rigs that used things like watercooling, 6800U/X800XT PE or an FX-55/P4EE processor when overclocking was factored into the equation.

Any generic power supply will work just fine until a few months down the road it does something out of nowhere and damages your hardware. Just because it "works" doesn't mean anything.

MaximumPC reviewed the X-Connect and it failed the tests.

Ultra and Powmax have no credibility with building top quality power supplies whatsoever.

What more reasons do you need?

If you want a good power supply thats modular then i suggest you look into an Antec NeoPower 480w, TTGI Super Flower or OCZ Modstream.

That said most power supplies in use today are not high quality brands so if your system isn't under heavy stress then possibly an Ultra X-Connect will function just fine.
 
i love mine so far and haven't had any issues. but like burningrave says, i am worried about how it will be when i get my nforce4 board, fx-55, and geforce 6 card. only time will tell. i just hate the fact that i was so mesmerized by its beauty (as nearly everyone is at first) that i didn't do any research on it before i bought it. if i had a chance to do it over again, i probably wouldn't buy it, but like i said, with my current hardware (p4 northwood, geforce 3, 3 hard drives, dvd reader, dvd burner) it has been just fine.
 
burningrave101 said:
I have a Bestec 200w PSU in one of my HP computers and its worked flawlessly without any issues.

Does that mean its a high quality PSU? No.

The Ultra X-Connect power supply is manufactured by Powmax which makes generic power supplies used in cheap cases. The internal parts of the X-connect are not the same high quality components used in Antec, Enermax, OCZ, Fotron brand power supplies. It has tiny heatsinks for cooling which do not begin to measure up to what is found in a top quality power supply.

The ONLY reason people are so in love with these power supplies is because they are easily persuaded by looks and advertisements. They dont even bother to stop and wonder who manufactures it and what the quality is of the components used in it.

I've known several people that have bought one and it couldn't handle the higher-end rigs that used things like watercooling, 6800U/X800XT PE or an FX-55/P4EE processor when overclocking was factored into the equation.

Any generic power supply will work just fine until a few months down the road it does something out of nowhere and damages your hardware. Just because it "works" doesn't mean anything.

MaximumPC reviewed the X-Connect and it failed the tests.

Ultra and Powmax have no credibility with building top quality power supplies whatsoever.

What more reasons do you need?

If you want a good power supply thats modular then i suggest you look into an Antec NeoPower 480w, TTGI Super Flower or OCZ Modstream.

That said most power supplies in use today are not high quality brands so if your system isn't under heavy stress then possibly an Ultra X-Connect will function just fine.
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CAN I PLEASE SAY THAT WHAT HE IS SAYING IS COMPLETE GARBAGE -- PLEASE DISREGARD BURNINGRAVE101'S POST

Look at my sig for god's sake ... now tell me that this PSU can't "handle" it

Antec's are KNOWN to be POS and btw this PSU is NOT made by powmax .. it is made by ultra and it's being sold by POWMAX my box only says ULTRA on it as for the POWMAX boxes they say ULTRA too .. if you want a picture i will post one..

My system is running flawlessly and my video card has been volt modded for a month now and I have no problems WHAT SO EVER ..

so let's put it this way for burningrave101's sake ... this is a good looking excellent performing generic psu
 
mohammedtaha said:
CAN I PLEASE SAY THAT WHAT HE IS SAYING IS COMPLETE GARBAGE -- PLEASE DISREGARD BURNINGRAVE101'S POST

Look at my sig for god's sake ... now tell me that this PSU can't "handle" it

Antec's are KNOWN to be POS and btw this PSU is NOT made by powmax .. it is made by ultra and it's being sold by POWMAX my box only says ULTRA on it as for the POWMAX boxes they say ULTRA too .. if you want a picture i will post one..

My system is running flawlessly and my video card has been volt modded for a month now and I have no problems WHAT SO EVER ..

so let's put it this way for burningrave101's sake ... this is a good looking excellent performing generic psu
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I'm still debating whether or not to dignify your post with a response but i suppose i will for the benefit of the rest of the viewers lol.

First off, no offense but thats not really what i would call a truly power hungry system.

Antecs are NOT kown to be POS. They are known to be some of the best and the Antec NeoPower 480w is at the very top.

The Ultra X-Conenct PSU is most definitely NOT made by Ultra. It is manufactured by Powmax. Ultra doesn't make PSU's, they only sell them.

And your right on one thing, the X-Connect is a good looking generic PSU that fails heavy load tests as was shown in the MaximumPC article.

You shouldn't believe everything you read on a box :p.
 
Great PSU; ran my A64 3200+ DTR at 2.6GHz/1.7v with 2 x 512 BH-5 at 3.0v and an x800 Pro VIVO running way over XT PE speeds rock-solid with super-strong rails. My only complaint is that the leads are rather long for anything other than a large mid-tower or full-size tower (like the Antec case pictured on the box) and the ATX 20-pin connector is extrememly rigid.
 
BTW, I haven't seen any proof that these PSUs are made by Powmax, just statements that they are.

But even if that's true, just because Powmax has made a "name" for themselves building inexpensive PSUs, that doesn't mean they don't have the ability to make a quality one, either.
 
mohammedtaha said:
it is made by ultra and it's being sold by POWMAX
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No its made by Leadman Electronics
the same people that make the POWmax, the RAIDmax and the now defunct Robatron lines
they make crap supplies and pass them off as high quality
the components and filtering are marginal, under normal circumstances its merely an adequate supply, your spending the money on its looks, not on the quality of its components or actual performance

Fool me once shame on you
Fool me twice shame on me
 
mohammedtaha said:
<snjp>Antec's are KNOWN to be POS ...
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How very definitive of you to make that statement. You can’t back it with fact. You can’t even back it with hearsay.

Thank you for adding nothing to the knowledge base of the world. :rolleyes:
 
 
since most reviewers couldnt find their ass if a cord was leading to it....


compare those with two real reviewers
http://www.leesspace.com/Published_reviews.htm
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article148-page1.html



a copy of MBM, a heavily loaded system and a camera does not a reviewer make
even those that are slightly more sophisticated are never the less flawed

extreme overclocking > the worse kind of review, a set load and software monitoring
3dvelocity > incomplete and flawed procedure but a telling qoute
the voltage, which was initially quite respectable at 11.40 Volts would immediately start to dip, finally bottoming out at around 10.20 Volts, before curiously starting to climb again, hitting 10.50 Volts again after around 2 minutes, 10.70 Volts after 3 minutes and about 10.80 Volts after 4 minutes. 11.40V is actually right on the limit of Ultra's claimed +/- 5% range but obviously this goes out of the window as it starts to dip. At 300 Watts however we're very close to the 12V limit of 336 Watts, particularly if we add to that the demands from the system components.....

hough its tendency let the 12V line go walkabouts as I increased the load to 25 Amps was slightly worrying. That said, most people aren't likely to hit that ceiling, particularly when you remember that's 25 Amps in addition to the power already being supplied to the graphics card. you'd need one hell of a system to have it generate that level of load on a regular basis
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cool tech zone > total lack of understanding on how to stress test a PSU
again the worse case test proceedure

gruntville > again a flawed understanding of how to stress test a PSU
even though a Digital Multimeter was employed this time
it however wasnt a True RMS meter though it did have decent resolution

bit-tech > again the worse possible test proceedure, single config and software monitored, never the less displayed a 12.4 to 12.6 fluctuation

hardcorerware > again software monitoring and a set system, again a flawed understanding of how to stress a PSU and actually test the load regulation, at least this time a recognition of some of his limitations is acknowledged
Unfortunately, we are not in posession of an oscilliscope. Therefore, we are unable to determine exactly how clean the power is that is going through the X-Connect. For that, we apologize.

That 12V line is looking sketchy already... Of course, this wouldn't mean much if we only ran this test and called it a day. That's not what we're about though, so I left it running the UT2K3 loop and Prime95 torture test. I would have let it run for weeks (while waiting for a final unit to arrive, since the beta unit would not run this test), but the power supply failed some time during the first night. OOPS.
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the cricible > specific test proceedure unknown, set peice config and maximum load, assumed software monitoring
hiowever
The less difference in the ,easured voltages at idle and load the better. We can see that the +3.3V and +5V rails stayed very stable with about 1% difference in the load and idle measurements. The +12V rail though had a more than marked drop of roughly 2% which is quite exceptional
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Was there a point to that post?

Sorry IceCzar, nor yout post, the one before.
 
a critic of proceedures linked is slowly emerging ;) (watch to my 2nd post above)
I will follow it with how you actually test a PSU

Ive been turning down manufacturers requesting I review PSUs
the reason is simple, even though I actually understand how, and I have twice the equipment to do it than 99% of the reviewers out there, I still have less than half of the equipment needed :p

between Mike Chin, and Lee Garbutt, with a few extreme tests like Maximum PC did, you have a real review ;)
 
mohammedtaha said:
Yeah ... proving that the Ultra PSU's aren't what people claim they are !!
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Oh. Well, actually no, your not. Just because anyone can plug a PSU into a rig and not have it blow up doesn't a review make. The pretty pictures don't help much either.
 
Ok, look back. Do it carefully. My original reply to you had not one thing to do with OCZ. It was your comment on Antec.

Didn’t need nor do I want reviews on OCZ. Don’t care, never did, still don’t.

Don’t get lost in emotion; it’s not worth it.

If you like that company buy some stock, support it, buy everything they sell. Be happy.
 
BillR said:
Ok, look back. Do it carefully. My original reply to you had not one thing to do with OCZ. It was your comment on Antec.

Didn’t need nor do I want reviews on OCZ. Don’t care, never did, still don’t.

Don’t get lost in emotion; it’s not worth it.

If you like that company buy some stock, support it, buy everything they sell. Be happy.
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OCZ ? who mentioned OCZ ?

AND IF burningrave101 can get away with his comment about Ultra then I definitely have the right to get away with any comment I want .. why are you gettin lost in emotion ?
 
mohammedtaha said:
OCZ ? who mentioned OCZ ?

AND IF burningrave101 can get away with his comment about Ultra then I definitely have the right to get away with any comment I want .. why are you gettin lost in emotion ?
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My bad, OCZ, Ultra...whatever. You made a statement about Antec being a POS. I commented on that, nothing else.
 
mohammedtaha said:
Yeah ... proving that the Ultra PSU's aren't what people claim they are !!
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Have you read most of the reviews you quoted? I decided to read them all.

The vast majority said the equivalent of "Yeah, we plugged it into a system configured like this, then touched a voltmeter to it, and it seemed okay". First of all, many of them said this even in some cases where the 3.3v and 12v rails metered out at around .5v over spec. That would worry me, as some peripherals are quite sensitive to this and may eventually fail from it. One site gave favorable reviews even when the power supply wouldn't boot under a tested load it should have, according to its specs. Who would trust a review like that? A third site's test rig was a P4 2.4GHZ with a Radeon 9800, and an 80GB hard disk, and then had the remarked on "how incredibly stable this power supply is". Well, duh! How many power supplies, even basic ones marked for 350 watts, couldn't run that? Yet another site mentioned that "The X-Connect rails flexed a little during our testing but never dropped to levels that we would consider to be problematic. We however would have preferred a little more voltage on the +3.3v rail as it did have a tendency to drop below 3.3v under load." That's not something I'd want to see in a PSU; and yet they gave it a glowing review.

Few of these reviews did anything that resembled a true load test. None of them measured efficiency at all, much less efficiency at higher temperatures where power supplies can start to falter. None of them did a voltage sag test. Not one single site used an oscilloscope, or a precise load tester. And nobody tested for AC ripple at all either. I'm not trying to slam the X-Connect power supply as much as I'm trying to say that there's a lot of sites out there that obviously have no business reviewing power supplies, and yet when sent a free one by Ultra Products, they review it through fairly unscientific methods, compliment it on how shiny it is and its modularity (even though many of them complained how stiff the cables were) and then give it a positive review even in cases where some issues might give a PC enthusiast reasons to seek another power supply.

SilentPCReview is one of the few sites I've seen that does good quality PSU reviews. Maximum PC's review was pretty darned good for a paper publication, though not as good as SPCR. The Tech Report did a review recently, and while they have far more detail than any of the reviews you listed, they still don't tell the full story. If you don't test what counts, your results are worthless.
 
This PSU may not be the BEST
This PSU is certainly not the WORST
500W may be an outright lie!

Here is the thing! I have all all kinds of PSUs, Antecs, Enermaxes, Sparkles and Generic Crap that came with case (of which people say the ultra-x is). My experiences..(not test beds with voltimeters and professional equipment) tell me that antecs have failed me OFTEN or flat out not worked..i have had to RMA 2 of them, enermaxes are noisy..but stable and sparkles seem to just work...though they fluctuate voltages. I really think that it comes down to what equipment you are using (antecs suck on abit boards...great on asus) and how much equipment you are using. The X-Connect UV Blue modded psu i ordered looks pretty pimp and I cant wait to test it and see if it's up to the challange of powering my....

P4 2.4c @ 3.4
IC7-Max3
1GB OCZ PC4000 Gold DC EL
9800 Pro
Segate SATA 160
Koolance Exos
DVD-RW
4 Case Fans
And 2 CCFLs

I think that is pretty representative of a typical system on these boards...I will monitor the voltages...test for stability...and let everyone know how it turns out...I will even post pics for those who do care about how their comp looks. Hopefully I will be saying that the $70 I got it for was a good deal!
 
I have an Antec True380S (sonata version) and the voltages are never more than 2% off. I've built over 20 systems with Antec and have never had any problems. "Antec a POS," I think not.
 
mohammedtaha said:
AND IF burningrave101 can get away with his comment about Ultra then I definitely have the right to get away with any comment I want .. why are you gettin lost in emotion ?
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What comment? I stated the absolute truth and if you care to ignore it then its your choice.

Why does everyone think the X-connect is such a good PSU? It doesn't do anything that any other generic 500w PSU wouldn't do in terms of performance. It couldn't even handle the mediocore load test that MaximumPC put it under in their Janaury 2005 article.

There are other modular power supplies out there like the NeoPower and Modstream that are actually quality power supplies.

The only reason the X-connect is able to even run these mid-range systems you guys are sticking them is is because its a 500w PSU. Most any descent generic 500w PSU can handle the rigs i've seen post in this thread so far.
 
Ice Czar said:
a critic of proceedures linked is slowly emerging ;) (watch to my 2nd post above)
I will follow it with how you actually test a PSU

Ive been turning down manufacturers requesting I review PSUs
the reason is simple, even though I actually understand how, and I have twice the equipment to do it than 99% of the reviewers out there, I still have less than half of the equipment needed :p

between Mike Chin, and Lee Garbutt, with a few extreme tests like Maximum PC did, you have a real review ;)
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As a rule “reviewing” can be a pain. The manufactures have a certain expectation and to really do it right you need the right gear, an outrageous expense to say the least. What they (the manufactures) don’t want to happen is “testing to destruction” which is a very real part of a true review.

As such you would be faced with purchasing not just one but any and all of everything you wanted to test and not just one unit, but also a few examples of each from different sources. An expensive proposition to say the least with no return.

Of course, finding someone, anyone to pay for this service….well PSU’s are not sexy or glamorous and the paycheck might be a difficult thing.

The concept reminds me of what Oscar Wilde said about sex:

The position is ridiculous
The pleasure is fleeting
The cost is prohibitive
 
mohammedtaha said:
AND IF burningrave101 can get away with his comment about Ultra then I definitely have the right to get away with any comment I want .. why are you gettin lost in emotion ?
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mohammedtaha said:
Antec's are KNOWN to be POS
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Well, to me, the difference between burningrave101's quote and yours is that his actually has substance to it, stats don't lie, and the community don't lie. Your comment, on the other hand, can't even qualify as hearsay, as anybody with some general power supply knowledge knows that Antec PSUs aren't doorstoppers as you label them to be. Secondly, Ultra doesn't make anything... they are just a brand that retailers like Tigerdirect carry. They don't make their own RAM, they don't make their own power supplies, they don't make their own cooling solutions, and the list goes on. Re-branders is what they are.

I think its great that your X-Connect is holding up to the load that your system is putting on it, but just the risk of running an X-Connect, to me, isn't worth the pretty casing (low-quality, at that) and the modular cabling. Its not that much more for a Neopower or a Modstream, and I think the premium is definitely worth it.

The thread jacking is necessary in my opinion. People need to know the real truth to these products.
 
well how about this .. I will repost on this topic if ... IF anything ever goes wrong ... if i notice any weird things going on .. psu not up to snuff I'll repost and keep u updated ..

as of now I have nothing bad to say about this PSU ... some might say it's bad but as u can see the post shows more people voting for than against ..

Only time will tell .. forget the reviews for now .. and lets see how it will stand against time
 
upgraded from a Antec SmartBlue 350W to an X-Connect 500W, runs great, looks great, stable rails...
even with this setup:

FX-55 @ 260FSB (1.7V)
2x512MB GeIL CL2.5 PC-4000 @ 2.7V
Gigabyte K8NSNXP-939 (even with the LEDs!)
and finally, and most importantly...
5x80mm fans
GeForce 6800 Ultra @ 1.5V Core!

All maintaining a rock-solid 12V rail!
 
In Maximum PC they said it was the worst in their extreme PSU roundup. They beat the hell out of the PSU's, and maybe it was just a bad one.
 
S1nF1xx said:
In Maximum PC they said it was the worst in their extreme PSU roundup. They beat the hell out of the PSU's, and maybe it was just a bad one.
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For those who didn't read some of the links in this post:

Ultra 'feels' that maximum PC reviewed an engineering sample that was used for looks purposes and not a production model. SUPPOSEDLY maximum PC has acknowledged this. I am a little skeptical....but if this turns out to be true, I EXPECT AN APOLOGY POSTED FROM ALL PEOPLE WHO REFERENCED max-pc...EXPECIALLY those who have had no first hand experience.
 
Mysogonist said:
For those who didn't read some of the links in this post:

Ultra 'feels' that maximum PC reviewed an engineering sample that was used for looks purposes and not a production model. SUPPOSEDLY maximum PC has acknowledged this. I am a little skeptical....but if this turns out to be true, I EXPECT AN APOLOGY POSTED FROM ALL PEOPLE WHO REFERENCED max-pc...EXPECIALLY those who have had no first hand experience.
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Dream on lol. :rolleyes:

The people that are posting first hand experience so far in this thread have no idea how to test a power supply and haven't done anything but plug in the power supply and turn it on. Most any halfassed generic power supply will do this, especially if its 500w.

No matter what Ultra 'feels' this power supply is still manufactured by a company that produces low cost power supplies that are well known to fail and use cheap internal components such as POWmax. The X-connect is nothing more then a doped up rebrand of one of these models.

Someone show me a review where an X-connect was put under heavy load and was tested with a voltmeter to insure good voltage regulation.

You can't tell me that any of you bought the X-connect because of its high quality performance. You know you saw an advertisement and thought it looked cool and THAT is why you bought it.
 
I don't understand why people is bashing those who showed the real deal about the X-Connect.

I have a X-Connect 500w myself, as one of those who ordered when it is just released. While it runs fine on my computer (had to RMA the first one due to a defective ATX connector), reading the more advanced reviews like Maximum PC or SilentPC make me regret this purchase. I would have been better served with a PCP&C and nothing else because I was usually one of those who check for the top quality at any price. The only selling point of the X-Connect is the looks and I'm really tempted to fit a PCP&C into a X-Connect to get the best of both worlds.

I agree with IceCzar that not anyone can do a good review of the PSU without having enough equipement to test it and at least destroying one to check the real limits.
 
burningrave101 said:
Dream on lol. :rolleyes:

The people that are posting first hand experience so far in this thread have no idea how to test a power supply and haven't done anything but plug in the power supply and turn it on. Most any halfassed generic power supply will do this, especially if its 500w.
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You can't tell me that any of you bought the X-connect because of its high quality performance. You know you saw an advertisement and thought it looked cool and THAT is why you bought it.
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So it looks cool and will power my system and was on sale? WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING?????????? I don't know about you all...but I am lucky to be actively using any component (outside of HDDs and CDroms) for over a year...I am not worried to much about longevity of components. Hell...my enermax flucuates voltages now....and my system runs fine...overclocked and overvolted!
 
mohammedtaha said:
some might say it's bad but as u can see the post shows more people voting for than against ..
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Bad...no
an overpriced poser...yes
there is a reason it has dropped in price from $150 to $70 dollars

a little history for those that missed it
the Ultra X-connect rolled out last August or September
with just rudimentary specs
its possible and maybe even likely that Ultra products had the idea for this supply and contracted Leadman Electronics\POWmax to manufacture it for them

the PSU was then farmed out to a great number of case mod sites for review
none where really able to do a good review and almost unaminously fell all over themselves singing its praises, it is afterall exactly the kind of bling bling supply they all love

then somehow, all these great reviews magnified this supply into a truely high performance power supply in the minds of the enthusiast market, with no real testing having ever been done, the few that knew better, largely drowned out by the uninformed masses

then a few real reviewers got their hands on these and started to point out deficiencies
like the poor component selection, the consistantly high +12V rail, marginal load regulation and poor filtering

then POWmax listed the supply claiming manufacturing credit and the price started to drop, as many know from experience exactly what that means

this isnt a crap blow your board supply
its a case modders supply
if your serious about overclocking, you'll choose something else
same if your serious about protecting your investment in components
(not everyone throws away componets see sig)

having a high baseline voltage, in a supply that only meets the spec for transient response\load regulation, makes it very likely you'll get overshoots
those will wear on components

the power supply is but a link in the chain, equally important are the source power stability (VAC) and the mobos voltage regulation modual(s)

its best to not abuse the VRMs and feed them stable power for that you get a high quality supply, just as its best to not test the PSU which is why you get a UPS

the difference between a marginal supply and a high quality one is rather simple
its the operating range the supply has under adverse conditions
too high a load, too high a temperature and variable source power
yet still maintain stable DC voltage

the Ultra has a limited range in comparision to other supplies for the money
the deficit may or maynot be made up by the quality of your other components
for a given period of time, you may or maynot have the environmental factors under control
you may or maynot have stable VAC

regarding Ultra sending a engineering sample to Maximum PC
horse hockey
if so they are idiots, Enermax passed on that review beacuse they didnt have their new EG565 ready in all likelyhood, I highly doubt that Ultra was unaware of what a submission meant

mohammedtaha said:
s and why are we thread hi-jacking ?
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corrections of factual errors isnt thread hijacking
and popularity polls isnt evidence
it will be interesting to see what happens this summer when the ambient temperature starts to get extreme,
and even more power hungry components are common in boxes


my advise is, if you like the supply, great
keep it cool, get a UPS, and dont load it near its rated capacity
that advise is applicable to any PSU
;)
 
I've heard of X-Connect first around the end of august when they started to get distributed so it should be about this timeframe for release. The rest is really correct with every initial review raving on the PSU, which got me suckered into buying one.

/me make a mental note to always wait 2-3 months then poll the users on a unknown product.
 
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