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After three years on top of the list, Apple has fallen from first to third on the list of the World's Most Admired Companies.

Apple's reign is over. Its remarkable three-year hold on the throne of Barron's annual ranking of the world's most respected companies is history. No longer the apple of the market's eye, the immensely successful maker of iPads, iPhones, and Mac computers slipped to third place in the 2013 survey.
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when one man makes himself a brand, shit's bound to happen when he leaves.
Never liked Jobs but still kudos to him, apple would never became what they are now without him.
 
Companies come and go...

Life goes on...

/shrug
 
infojunkie said:
when one man makes himself a brand, shit's bound to happen when he leaves.
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I agree, Steve Jobs was the brand. What he accomplished was truly remarkable. Love him or hate him, it's hard to argue with that. Apple couldn't stay on top forever anyway, and without Jobs, it's not the same company.
 
Low Roller said:
I agree, Steve Jobs was the brand. What he accomplished was truly remarkable. Love him or hate him, it's hard to argue with that. Apple couldn't stay on top forever anyway, and without Jobs, it's not the same company.
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I personally disagree. One man doesn't completely shape an empire. In my opinion, I think Jobs really shifted the focus of Apple in different directions. He didn't design every product, make every choice, or make every influential decision in the companies years. Jobs really made design and integration of products a priority, and I think that's what made the initial rebound of Apple a success.

It will be interesting to see where Apple is in a couple of years.
 
infojunkie said:
when one man makes himself a brand, shit's bound to happen when he leaves.
Never liked Jobs but still kudos to him, apple would never became what they are now without him.
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One can argue that Jobs is the reason for the public's dropping opinion of them. He did, after all, tell everyone they were holding their phone wrong and start a scorched earth legal campaign against their competitors. It's just now catching up to them.
 
They were only the most respected due to their stock price. Keep in mind the source.
 
choppedliver said:
Obi Wan is dead. The Jedi mind trick/reality distortion field is starting to wear off,
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That was already happening during his reign. Their rebound came from the iPod revolution and form over function design, and the iPhone and iPhone Maxi (iPad) helped to evolve that iPod boom into the next generation.

Since then though, they really haven't done anything interesting whatsoever, and people were quickly realizing that generic shit in a pretty box is still generic shit.
 
TeeJayHoward said:
Apparently, it's Apple. At least, according to Fortune, not Barron's.

Fortune's "World's Most Admired Companies" list
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Here's the Barron's list:
Code: 
Rank                    Mean  Highly           Respect  Don’t
’13 ’12 Company/Ticker Score* Respect Respect Somewhat Respect
1. 15. Berkshire Hathaway/BRKA 3.88 56% 32% 8% 2%
2. 11. Walt Disney/DIS 3.81 44 46 1 2
3. 1.  Apple/AAPL 3.78 45 30 9 1
4. 16. Google/GOOG 3.67 54 29 11 5
5. 8.  Coca-Cola/KO 3.59 40 43 10 1
6. 4.  Amazon.com/AMZN 3.56 46 31 15 2
7. 6.  3M/MMM 3.45 32 43 13 0
8. 3.  McDonald’s/MCD 3.29 33 41 20 0
9. 7.  United Parcel Service/UPS 3.28 31 44 16 1
10. 2. IBM/IBM 3.24 26 53 15 0
11. N.R. Unilever(Netherlands)/UN 3.24 26 45 16 0
12. 13. Visa/V 3.22 31 45 14 3
13. 32. Johnson & Johnson/JNJ 3.22 31 45 18 1
14. 24. Home Depot/HD 3.20 24 53 15 0
15. 17. United Technologies/UTX 3.18 28 45 17 1
16. 9.  Nestlé (Switzerland)/NESN 3.17 32 37 24 0
17. 12. ExxonMobil/XOM 3.11 25 39 18 1
18. 36. Samsung Electronics (Korea)/005930 3.10 30 41 18 3
19. 14. American Express/AXP 3.10 26 48 17 2
20. 10. Intel/INTC 3.05 25 46 21 1
21. 21. Procter & Gamble/PG 3.00 26 46 20 3
22. 30. PepsiCo/PEP 3.00 24 46 22 1
23. 51. Wal-Mart Stores/WMT 3.00 24 37 22 1
24. NR. eBay/EBAY 2.90 22 45 24 1
25. 31. Amgen/AMGN 2.87 20 44 25 0
26. N.R. Boeing/BA 2.83 17 51 25 0
27. 27. Wells Fargo/WFC 2.81 26 34 33 1
28. 26. Toyota Motor(Japan)/TM 2.78 18 52 22 3
29. 50. Diageo (U.K.)/DEO 2.74 11 54 21 1
30. N.R. Gilead Sciences/GILD 2.69 20 37 31 1
31. 41. LVMH-MoëtHennessy LouisVuitton (France)/MC 2.68 14 47 25 1
32. 23. Chevron/CVX 2.68 16 47 29 1
33. N.R. Bayer(Germany)/BAYN 2.67 16 39 28 1
34. 25. Honda Motor(Japan)/HMC 2.66 14 47 26 1
35. 28. Novartis (Switzerland)/NVS 2.65 13 52 29 0
36. 48. Siemens (Germany)/SI 2.65 13 47 25 1
37. 34. Anheuser-Busch InBev (Belgium)/BUD 2.65 13 54 20 5
38. 40. Roche Holding (Switzerland)/ROG 2.62 13 51 25 2
39. 38. Royal Bank of Canada (Canada)/RY 2.61 16 44 24 5
40. 18. Schlumberger/SLB 2.57 14 45 31 1
41. 44. Merck/MRK 2.55 15 44 31 2
42. 37. SAP (Germany)/SAP 2.53 16 38 32 2
43. 20. Qualcomm/QCOM 2.53 15 43 32 2
44. 45. Toronto-Dominion Bank (Canada)/TD 2.52 15 39 29 3
45. 49. JPMorgan Chase/JPM 2.48 15 47 21 9
46. NR. CVS Caremark/CVS 2.47 14 41 33 2
47. 42. Cisco Systems/CSCO 2.46 8 54 29 2
48. N.R. Bristol-Myers Squibb/BMY 2.44 9% 47% 34% 0%
49. 52. Pfizer/PFE 2.44 8 53 32 1
50. 43. ConocoPhillips/COP 2.41 10 45 32 2
51. 58. Royal Dutch Shell (U.K.)/RDS/A 2.32 11 39 38 2
52. 59. SABMiller(U.K.)/SBMRY 2.31 6 46 33 1
53. 46. BASF (Germany)/BAS 2.31 9 38 33 2
54. 62. Bank of Nova Scotia (Canada)/BNS 2.30 13 31 34 3
55. 39. Oracle/ORCL 2.28 14 38 33 7
56. 53. GlaxoSmithKline (U.K.)/GSK 2.26 7 44 38 1
57. 57. Verizon Communications/VZ 2.25 13 39 33 7
58. 54. General Electric/GE 2.24 14 43 30 10
59. 71. Statoil (Norway)/STO 2.23 8 34 37 1
60. 61. Comcast/CMCSA 2.20 15 36 31 10
61. 19. Microsoft/MSFT 2.19 13 41 33 9
62. N.R. AbbVie/ABBV 2.18 14 31 30 9
63. 55. L’Oreál (France)/OR 2.17 9 37 36 5
64. 65. Vodafone Group (U.K.)/VOD 2.16 8 39 41 2
65. 63. Taiwan Semiconductor Mfg (Taiwan)/TSM 2.14 8 34 40 2
66. 66. Novo Nordisk (Denmark)/NVO 2.09 11 31 37 7
67. 60. Sanofi (France)/SNY 2.03 5 38 43 2
68. 47. BHP Billiton (U.K.)/BHP 1.87 2 40 38 7
69. N.R. Inditex (Spain)/ITX 1.81 6 28 36 8
70. 82. NTT DoCoMo (Japan)/DCM 1.79 3 31 41 6
71. 70. Commonwlth Bk of Australia (Australia)/CBA 1.74 3 29 43 6
72. 74. Westpac Banking (Australia)/WBK 1.71 2 29 41 6
73. 76. National Australia Bank (Australia)/NAB 1.66 1 33 37 9
74. 85. Comp. de Bebidas das Americas (Brazil)/ABV 1.62 5 23 43 8
75. 75. Australia & New Zealand Bkg (Australia)/ANZ 1.60 1 29 39 8
76. 69. Altria Group/MO 1.59 9 23 38 16
77. 81. América Movíl (Mexico)/AMX 1.57 3 25 43 9
78. 72. AT&T/T 1.57 5 26 53 9
79. N.R. Goldman Sachs/GS 1.56 10 28 34 22
80. 80. Mitsubishi UFJ Financial (Japan)/MTU 1.56 2 29 46 9
81. NR. News Corporation/NWSA** 1.56 8 25 36 17
82. 73. HSBC Holdings (U.K.)/HBC 1.56 6 23 53 9
83. 79. Total (France)/TOT 1.52 5 25 47 11
84. 89. ENI (Italy)/E 1.48 0 29 38 10
85. N.R. Sumitomo Mitsui Financial (Japan)/8316 1.38 1 22 47 9
86. N.R. Banco Santander (Spain)/SAN 1.33 3 22 43 15
87. 68. Philip Morris International/PM 1.31 10 20 33 26
88. 86. British American Tobacco (U.K.)/BTI 1.29 3 24 40 18
89. 83. BP (U.K.)/BP 1.28 1 30 39 20
90. N.R. BNP Paribas (France)/BNP 1.23 1 21 45 14
91. 91. Citigroup/C 1.08 3 20 46 23
92. 94. Bank of America/BAC 1.08 0 22 52 18
93. N.R. Japan Tobacco (Japan)/2914 1.00 1 20 34 22
94. 98. Ecopetrol (Colombia)/EC 0.94 0 15 46 17
95. 88. China Mobile (China)/CHL 0.90 2 13 52 22
96. 92. CNOOC (China)/CEO 0.81 1 14 44 24
97. 97. China Construction Bank (China)/939 0.60 0 9 51 26
98. 99. Sberbank Rossia (Russia)/SBER 0.57 1 8 44 28
99. 95. Rosneft (Russia)/ROSN 0.39 0 8 39 32
100. 100. Gazprom (Russia)/GAZP 0.14 0 9 30 46
 
Berkshire Hathaway? Really? Really?

Exactly who admires them? They move piles of money back and forth for a living. Financial parasites.
 
Qinsp said:
Berkshire Hathaway? Really? Really?

Exactly who admires them? They move piles of money back and forth for a living. Financial parasites.
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Also, how many people actually know about BH? I wonder how they did this survey.
 
3M is a very cool company. Very high tech, very high quality products.

Minnesota Mining and Metals? Something like that.

While not everybody shops at Walmart, not everybody owns an Apple Product, pretty much everyone on the planet has used a 3M product.
 
3M is huge and very profitable. A good example of a company that does right by their shareholders and kicks ass against competition. It doesn't hurt that they still manufacture a lot of their products in the US.
 
I think what is stunning about 3M is that they have a lot of competition, yet continue to make a superior product, and not only survive doing it, but they thrive.

Kind of like if Rolls Royce was the #1 car company.
 
Just like with all industries... If a company finds success, the competition follows.

Jobs greatest feat was making their devices more user friendly. Devices at the time were a bit more techie to use.

Add the marketing that caught the world by storm and thus we have apple.

Jobs was excellent at focusing on the customers, rather then the techie perspective. While it made a limited device, it was solid which ultimately proved to be more important.

I do think Jobs took it a bit too far (screen size options etc) but overall he helped steer the industry a direction that allowed EVERYONE to use and realize how good new tech is.
 
Given that this is Barron's making the list it probably has a lot to do with stock price (which has been suffering for Apple and BH has an ever increasing one since they never split ... they cost $169,000 a share right now :eek: ) ... the only most admired lists that matter are generally the ones by employees or business peers ... all top XXX list are highly subjective, depending on the criteria you choose and the weighting you apply to the criteria ;) )
 
Qinsp said:
3M is a very cool company. Very high tech, very high quality products.

Minnesota Mining and Metals? Something like that.

While not everybody shops at Walmart, not everybody owns an Apple Product, pretty much everyone on the planet has used a 3M product.
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I just didnt think they'd be #6, seeing how they arent flashy ora very recognized brand like walmart/google/apple.
 
Qinsp said:
3M is a very cool company. Very high tech, very high quality products.

Minnesota Mining and Metals? Something like that.

While not everybody shops at Walmart, not everybody owns an Apple Product, pretty much everyone on the planet has used a 3M product.
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Like BASF says. They aren't the product, they're the thing that makes the product.
 
Qinsp said:
I think what is stunning about 3M is that they have a lot of competition, yet continue to make a superior product, and not only survive doing it, but they thrive.

Kind of like if Rolls Royce was the #1 car company.
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Actually, many of 3M's products are far from superior. Their name gets them a lot points with consumers but when you look at their product's specs they aren't nearly as good as brands half the price.

Having done business directly with them I can say they are a cutthroat company that will stab everyone in the back to get their way. In my industry they have a reputation for horrific business practices and I've witnessed it first hand.
 
Blown 89 said:
Actually, many of 3M's products are far from superior. Their name gets them a lot points with consumers but when you look at their product's specs they aren't nearly as good as brands half the price.

Having done business directly with them I can say they are a cutthroat company that will stab everyone in the back to get their way. In my industry they have a reputation for horrific business practices and I've witnessed it first hand.
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Which is why they are admired in the financial world.

This isn't a popularity contest on the consumer side of things, this is about which companies are good investments.
 
Blown 89 said:
Actually, many of 3M's products are far from superior. Their name gets them a lot points with consumers but when you look at their product's specs they aren't nearly as good as brands half the price.

Having done business directly with them I can say they are a cutthroat company that will stab everyone in the back to get their way. In my industry they have a reputation for horrific business practices and I've witnessed it first hand.
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After using their various products for over 30 years, I can honestly say I've never been disappointed with any of them.

There's not a lot of brands I can say that about.

We also have inspected a number of their medical devices over the years. Good workmanship.
 
Qinsp said:
After using their various products for over 30 years, I can honestly say I've never been disappointed with any of them..
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Being happy with what you bought doesn't change the fact that similar products priced less outperform their products.

My company was under contract to produce one of 3M's lines and I am currently under contract to convert and distribute others. I also deal directly with their competitors. You may like their products but that doesn't change their competitors spec out better than them in the pressure sensitive industry and that is a huge division in 3M. Their name alone carries a lot of weight but when push comes to shove spec sheets aren't persuaded by advertising and brand recognition, there are better products out there.
 
choppedliver said:
Obi Wan is dead. The Jedi mind trick/reality distortion field is starting to wear off,
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There you go...;) Another way to look at it is that people are getting tired of Apple and the "i-whatever", and are branching out in new areas and what was great stuff three years ago is now "ho-hummm." It's "Apple-fatigue," more or less. It's merely human nature to move on to the newer and to explore the "different" (intended pun), ironically enough .

For most of its existence Apple has been decisively behind the curve in most areas, and so it was never #1 at *anything* until it moved away from computers (the dismal sales story of the Mac through hardware transition after transition and the killing of the Mac clone market) and then diversified into MP3 players, cell phones, and to a lesser extent, even touchscreen tablet devices. Most of this happened in merely the last 6-8 years, incredibly enough! But even so, Apple didn't invent the smartphone (Blackberry had been around for years and grown complacent and lazy), or the MP3 player, or the portable touchscreen computing device.

But, Apple was able to take the work that other people and companies did earlier and repackage it and reintroduce it in a much-improved format at a *much-better* time in terms of the technology being available to build these products. And in its iPhone series of cell-phone products, Apple hit the ball out of the park and then on out of the atmosphere...!...;) Grand slam.

But the very flash-in-the-pan runaway success Apple has enjoyed in the last decade also contains the seeds of the company's inevitable decline: Apple has to *keep on* inventing the "next best thing" or the "next best gadget" or--it seems to me--Apple's future is always a tenuous one. Steve Jobs had the lionized reputation required to bring new Apple products to the attention of the public, and even to sell those products when they weren't well-received critically. With Apple's traditional business model, a showman of that stature is required for success and longevity. But Jobs is gone and clearly there is no one in the company who can take his place and fill those shoes--but that doesn't have to be a bad thing at all.

If Apple can move on to becoming a company more on the order of Samsung or Intel or AMD or nVidia, companies where personalities are of little note compared with the products produced--where products are the real stars of the show--then I'd say that Apple has a fighting chance of being relevant come 2021. My opinion, of course...;) (salt, grain)
 
Blown 89 said:
One can argue that Jobs is the reason for the public's dropping opinion of them. He did, after all, tell everyone they were holding their phone wrong and start a scorched earth legal campaign against their competitors. It's just now catching up to them.
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I don't think most ppl would have even grabbed Apple product in the first place if it wasn't for Jobs, whether in a right way or not.
 
infojunkie said:
I don't think most ppl would have even grabbed Apple product in the first place if it wasn't for Jobs, whether in a right way or not.
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Well with out jobs they had no pitch man, just release a product randomly at a trade show, do some terrible advertising for it and watch it fail. Without jobs the ipod probably would have failed with their old model.
 
WaltC said:
But, Apple was able to take the work that other people and companies did earlier and repackage it and reintroduce it in a much-improved format at a *much-better* time in terms of the technology being available to build these products. And in its iPhone series of cell-phone products, Apple hit the ball out of the park and then on out of the atmosphere...!...;) Grand slam.
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The iPod and iTunes(which I hate) were the key to Apple's decade of domination. It hit at the perfect time, right around the fall of Napster. By then, millions of people had several gigabytes of mp3's on their hard drives. While Sony's Walkman had long been the king of portable music players, it's digital audio players only played a proprietary Sony format. While Apple too had their own proprietary format for music sold through iTunes, the iPod could also play mp3's. For many, the iPod became the default digital music player for people with large mp3 collections. These people tended to be the biggest customers of the music industry, and soon they began buying digital music through iTunes.(when they didn't pirate it)

With the music industry in full panic over piracy and stagnating CD sales, they rushed to put their music on iTunes to try to recoup some lost revenue through this new distribution channel. The music industry did not realize they had a tiger by the tail.

With Apple selling iPods hand over fist and iTunes emerging as the dominant digital music distribution service, Jobs was in a position to dictate terms to the flailing music industry, and he did exactly that. Effectively, Apple had intercepted a large portion of what was formerly the music industry's revenue stream. By then, the trajectories of both Apple and the music industry were set.
 
Ocean said:
link says that apple is admired more than google, microsoft, samsung, intel and amazon.
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But they're not #1 anymore and that's enough to regurgitate what happens in every other Apple news thread.
 
Qinsp said:
Berkshire Hathaway? Really? Really?

Exactly who admires them? They move piles of money back and forth for a living. Financial parasites.
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That's not at all what they do.

They buy companies and rebuild and invest in them.
 
raptorxrx said:
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It will be interesting to see where Apple is in a couple of years.
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In a couple of years Apple will have moved to the ILawyer and the new electronic ICourts.

Apple gig now is to sue everybody they can for stuff that Apple didnt invent.

Apple can eat a big bag of IDicks.
 
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