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    New speed testing site

    I'm bumping this thread because I don't lurk here often enough and missed it when it got posted. I designed this speed test (as well as speakeasy's) and am particularly glad the [H] forum found it because I also designed HardOCP.com. So in any case thanks for looking at it and if anyone has...
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    New HardOCP Thread

    Hello, I am responsible for the new design. I wanted to explain a few decisions so people have something to refer to as I know these comments will keep coming up. On Fixed Width and Font Sizes: The first decision that was made when approaching the new design was do we make the site relative...
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    [H] Consumer

    The final is barely any different than the one I linked. Maybe an added class or two for some minor decoration. That said, go ahead and mention what you think would increase performance based off this one I linked.
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    [H] Consumer

    Oh hey, look at that. Uh, hope you like your site! haha I always forget there is an entire staff now!
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    [H] Consumer

    Hello again Last time I left you, we had finalized the new landing page design for [H]ard|OCP.com and since then everything has gone into full production. The new [H]ard|OCP site has been completely put into xhtml and css and it looks perfect to the pixel. Actually better since there is no...
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    New [H]ard|OCP Design [FINAL]

    Will respond to a few more specific comments: Going back and digging up an email from Kyle sent to me From January 2004 when he approached me with the project, he mentioned that he liked what I did with shack. Took the old shack, gave it a modern spin to keep it fresh. However I really...
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    New [H]ard|OCP Design [FINAL]

    mmhmm. This was actually a concern of mine in talking to Kyle. The fact of the matter is that no one really gets where things are going because it remains to be seen yet. But there is going to be such an extreme saturation of new content between the new properties from a day to day basis that I...
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    New [H]ard|OCP Design [FINAL]

    In the future we will have more width and "try to please everyone is instead of most of everyone" type options for the site. Kyle has even brought up a no ads/subscription model. However, our main interest is getting a project complete and live. There are many other parts of the site that have...
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    New [H]ard|OCP Design [FINAL]

    There is nothing to see now. All you're seeing right now is just a big jpg saved out from a photoshop file. Once we have some more design work done, the site will go into full production and then when it launches, you can see how it's marked up. However I can tell you now that nothing will...
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    New [H]ard|OCP Design [FINAL]

    Right now it is a news site with original editorial and reviews. That is how the current site is presented. Key word there is presented though. That isn't really what [H] is at all. It's a reviews and editorial site before a news site and a major goal of the new design is to drive that new...
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    New [H]ard|OCP Design [FINAL]

    Hi again everyone! After a week of feedback and a few rounds of revision, today's final round of revisions has yielded what Kyle and I have decided is the final new [H] design. yays! So, for your comparison: Here is where we originally were. Here is where we are. What changed...
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    Very few people have said to get rid of them, but most said they were too long. And it was adjusted by 50%. It's a brand standard that kyle and I are sticking with. It's been almost exactly mixed. A lot like it, a lot think it's weird. Very very few have said it's hard to read. "A lot"...
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    Again, you can't really point to anything specific. The most that has been said about the "usability" as far as general feedback was concerned was that the news was pushed too far down, and this was something we anticipated knowing that most of the people on the Forum were people who went to the...
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    Please point me to an example where someone gave me an idea for the site and I flamed them or made fun of them. And if you are going to point to the guy who suggested the community take on the project, then sorry you have no sense of humor. Also for the record, I don't see what your job...
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    It hasn't been asked yet because it was answered on the very last line of my original post that started the thread. :rolleyes:
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    We ask for feedback to see a general tone of response. For example it was pretty unanimous that the featured article list was too many links deep and should be shortened. We're really not in the business of creating several designs and making this a community decision. I know that sounds harsh...
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    Uh, while the concern for my time and loneliness is appreciated, that is absolutely the most nutso batshit insane idea I have ever seen proposed. I commend you for making me laugh that hard after 45 minutes of getting my ass handed to me in counter-strike. You're proposing that a bunch of dudes...
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    Had that at first, but it gives hierarchical prominence to one tab over another, and that is bad for the brands. They need equal weighting and equal positioning from their static presentation. Having them overlayed like that just created too much of a conceptual argument. Yep, absolutely...
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    I don't see why I can't work boobs in somehow. Here's an idea: The ads are all at fixed sizes and before they load, you'll only see black bars. I'll set a background to the black bars that is a dynamic feed of random jessica alba pictures. So before the page loads, the site will be peppered in...
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    Dude. I gotta tell you, this has been in the works for almost TWO YEARS. Trust me the "whole" picture is well established and known.
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    The difference is that the people who built that bloated piece of shit ESPN site don't know what they are doing and I do. And that is a pretty big difference! Ok, but seriously you have to understand you're dealing with a guy who likes the web to be very fast with no superfluous shit going...
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    from the sifr page: The sIFR javascript file is less than 10k and only loads once. Thereafter, it is pulled from the browser cache. The same applies to the sIFR Flash movies which contain your fonts. If you have five headlines on a page which all use the same custom font, the .swf is pulled...
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    It won't be a concern. This is why I do things in Semantic xHTML and CSS. Things that people can't support will deprecate. Well, in theory :)
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    No, they use Eurostile. Zekton is relatively new. Oh and to echo Kyle's comments about Slashdot being a forum - he's absolutely right. Plz let's not compare this to slashdot ever again. It makes me cry. Slashdot is a cess pit.
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    About page load speeds and rendering: I can say with full confidence that this site is going to be fucking FAST. For one, the use of flash will be more or less transparent. You wouldn't even know there was flash unless I told you. Even right-clicking the text wouldn't make it obvious. And...
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    While I understand your desire to have an option to scale easily if you're running a higher resolution, it would lengthen production time on the sites considerably and be harder to maintain and the payoff isn't worth the effort. You speak of wasted space, but wasted relative to what? You're not...
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    Ok, big reply. Please read: The front page of the site has two main purposes: 1. To serve as a CONTENT PORTAL to 4 brand new [H] sites. 2. To act as the main new page encompassing news from all 4 sections as well as other misc. news items. Basically exactly as it does now. The 4...
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    That is actually a conditional issue at the moment. You see, each section will have it's own dominate color, and that will really establish the brand for that site. So, given that, the [H] must never show up with another title. So let's say green is selected for [H] Enterprise, then it must...
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    Yes, planning to do that. No on the alternate style sheet thing. There will be a Print style for sure since I am using that sIFR tech, so I need to plan for printing and take that seriously. So yeah, printing should look very nice and clean. The xml question is really for cliff, but I am...
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    Yes, semantic xHTML meaning that I only use HTML tags in a valid semantic sense. So no tables unless I am dealing with tabular data. To see what I am talking about goto www.filecloud.com in firefox and then View > Page Style > No Style from the firefox menu at the top. It will turn off the CSS...
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    It's that bright red button right under the top banner. I even gave it it's own knock-out color just to put it in higher priority. I didn't forget you guys!
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    A brand new [H]ard|OCP

    This is a long post, sorry, but if you want to comment at all on this I strongly request you read the entire thing. Roughly two years ago, Kyle contacted me about doing a new design for [H]ard|OCP. I've done a lot of design and UI work for the Shacknews folks, Speakeasy Broadband, and a lot...
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    [H] Site Design 2K4 windowed with cold cathodes and toggle switches.

    It isn't even designed yet. We are currently just fielding some ideas and discussions and very very soon I am going to start sketching some stuff up and going over it with Kyle. From there we will arrive at a final design and then start construction. Hopefully we can do it in 6-8 weeks but we'll...
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    [H] Site Design 2K4 windowed with cold cathodes and toggle switches.

    Horizontal Navigation is most certainly a direction I am exploring. I think it could really work and free up a lot of real estate for some pretty interesting layout where everything can get the space it deserves. Also, in talking to some people about the project, just a few friends here and...
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    [H] Site Design 2K4 windowed with cold cathodes and toggle switches.

    Just to echo what Kyle already said, the black background is staying for sure. There is really no question about it. It's too integral to the [H] branding and identity to go without. To do otherwise would create a huge problem for maintaining the integrity of the branding. Unlike some other...
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    [H] Site Design 2K4 windowed with cold cathodes and toggle switches.

    I work on a PC and it has Mozilla, IE, and Firebird installed on it. Right next to my PC is a 17inch Powerbook with Safari, Camino, Mozilla, and IE on it. So yes, I am going to get this thing right in every browser. And the construction will most likely be a general mix of traditional HTML...
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    [H] Site Design 2K4 windowed with cold cathodes and toggle switches.

    Oh yeah, people here don't know me. The pop-up thing was a complete joke!!! Total sarcasm! Just poking fun at poor web design.
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    [H] Site Design 2K4 windowed with cold cathodes and toggle switches.

    No POPUP Windows will be used for the new [H] site. This was a joke. Hi, I am being commissioned by Kyle to redesign [H]ard|OCP.com. Hopefully the mods don't mind this topic being in this forum. I just wanted to try and find the highest visibility forum for this discussion. Please move it...
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