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Be careful mods deleted my comment yesterday when I brought up all the anti-Nvidia conspiracies flying around these forums with regard to ray tracing.

While AMD is the front runner for consoles, I wouldn't count Nvidia or Intel out. Nvidia proved with the switch they are still around even with ARM cpus. And who knows what Intel has up their sleeves. I still think a discreet GPU can work in the console market.

Guess the crypto bubble hit AMD even harder in 2018. We could use some fresh legs in this race. Any new companies out there who could enter the GPU market?

I used to enjoy reading Carmack's discussions on the lighting tricks that ID Software came up with for games like Doom3. This paper brought back some memories.

Reading the paper would be a great first step towards understanding the benefits of ray tracing. You should give it a whirl.

Great read for those of you who are interested in the benefits of ray tracing. They discuss their use of traditional techniques such as environment maps with and without ray tracing. Enjoy! https://graphics.pixar.com/library/RayTracingCars/paper.pdf

Yep. Developers over the years have had to invent alot of different ways to somewhat correctly illuminate an object. They're more tricks than techniques. Pixar has a great paper on why they used ray tracing for the movie Cars which can be found here...

At hardocp, amd is the fan favorite so anything from nvidia tends to get stigmatized as more devious acts from the "evil empire".

So Nvidia filling a gap in their product line is evidence of some type of evil scheme? Ok got it!

Does intel have any cross-license agreements with nvidia or amd?

I remember when anti aliasing started being implemented and the graphics horsepower it required. Hardocp viewers are a different breed as Nvidia has been demonized as the scourge of the earth while AMD is the white knight who will come to save the day. The young kids who have invested themselves...

A And my xfx 580 laughs right back at you. Muhaha! By the way 81 pages is nothing when it comes to using ray tracing rendering.

"If it comes from Nvidia we hate it!" says the 4 posters ^ me.

Uhmmm....no. The 1080ti doesn't have tensor cores. I'm willing to bet you dislike Nvidia more than you understand the 2080 architecture.

Ya because Nvidia's 5000000% growth under him is a good reason to fire him......

I wonder how many hardocp dudes got excited thinking that some hedge fund selling their Nvda stock was going to sink the evil empire.

I have a hat that can block Nvidia's new mind control technology and will trade you an rtx2080 for it.

Theft is theft regardless of your personal feelings about the SEC.

Pixar has been using ray tracing for years. Bunch of fricking amateurs....

For shert term trading this is true. High speed trading shoukd be illegal and the argument that it provides liquidity is just pure BS. For long term investing though they may not play as big or any role at all.

Anyone know if there is a dollar value placed on the amount of money stolen from Americans by cyber criminals from Russia/eastern europe? Billions?

Lame justification of foreign individuals stealing hundreds of millions of dollars worth of information.

Alot of Dbag CEOs that investors love. The reason NVDA stock is down is the crypto bubble broke. Stock prices have nothing to do with the sentiments of guys like us on message boards. It's all about the revenues, the profits, and the future outlook.

Can't see when your eyes are closed. :)

I have no ill feelings towards AMD, Nvidia or any gpu company. But this guy makes everyone at Nvidia look bad and needs to shut it.

I am underwhelmed as well. But I am interested in seeing if AMD comes up with some type of inexpensive solution to ray tracing using a $50 GPU for example. Many of the ray tracing haters on these forums don't really understand the big picture benefits of moving to ray tracing over traditional...

For executives of publicly traded companies to sell stock (options or retail stock) they have to first make sure they are in compliance. This means Huang would have to first get a stamp of approval from their legal in compliance. The window to sell is usually in the 1st month of a new quarter...

I Appreciate your willijngness to come back to the conversation with less caffeine.

Well you got me on the rational part.

John McAfee came across to me as shady even before crypto.

Ayn Rand arguments pertaining to white collar crimes is sooo predictable. And laughable.

GPP affected stock price? RTX launch was DOA? Those had little to nothing to do with their share price decline. It was crypto crypto crypto. You think stock analysts were reading Hardocp and downgrading NVDA? Hehe.

No one says that someone can't work hard and make money. However, there are laws and rules that insiders in publicly traded companies have to abide by to ensure a fair and equitable marketplace. If you are OK with someone like the CEO of a company ignoring those rules for their own personal gain...

It will depend on what he knew before he sold and they will subpoena his emails to see. If they knew sales were artificially inflated due to crypto and they would experience a decline and then sold before issuing new guidance to the public then they may have a case.

A lot of hate in them words.

Sounds like you're harboring some ill feelings of your own. E-car take your lunch money?

Crazy thing is these dim wits doing this believe they're being patriotic...

We have affordable e-cars knocking at 400mi range. I'd say the problem is pretty close to solved for all but the longest driving distances.

Yep. And the transistor budgets will start to change as the ray tracing ops start replacing rasterization ops. Reminds me of the anti-electric car crowd who just a few short years ago said electric cars will never succeed. And here we are and every major auto producer is going full steam ahead...

Ray tracing isnt about reflections...