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My 5950x from amd direct just arrived this morning. It was in a box with wads of paper. Seems undamaged though. It was a lot of paper.

PC Z70 http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=576&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=138&g=f Huge case, but that board is so big it only barely fit. Covered half the wire management holes.

It is indeed smaller, but lacks support for an optical drive, and only supports 2.5" drives. 3.5" drives are so much less money for so much more space, and I do want to be able to play DVDs.

1. What will you be doing with this PC? strictly HTPC/Playback 2. What's your budget? Looking around $400 for everything 3. Where do you live? I live within easy driving distance of a Microcenter and a Frys 4. What exact parts do you need for that budget? My current list is below...

A new ESXi box we're building at work. 2x Xeon 5660, 96GB RAM, 4x 600GB VelociRaptors.

I taped some black paper to the inside of the opening to prevent dust from getting in there.

The asus ws revolution p67 board has dual intel nics, and is about $100 cheaper than the maximus.