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Unless the OP is running a 64bit OS, 6gb is even more pointless.:D

Did you reset all to default after updating the bios? Could be your new Deneb doesn't like the old Agena settings. The board doesn't happen to have ACC does it? If so, make sure it's disabled.......Deneb doesn't play well with ACC.:D

Second that. A pair of 4870x2s is gonna blow your doo back.:D

Second that. Keep your current setup, unless you have the need for a quad. The majority of games don't use multiple cores.:D

Your bus instability is probably due to the ram being pushed too high. What ram are you using? Drop the ram divisor to 800 and try pushing the bus up, but keep the vdimm at the 1066 setting.:D

Still have an Asus/XP2400+ running (the old woman's machine........she doesn't know the difference:p). I've got an XP1600+ hiding somewhere in my junkpile.

When did this degenerate into an i7 Über Alles thread? The sign on the door said 'My Phenom II benchmarks'. :rolleyes:

There you go!:D

AM3 boards have just been announced by a couple of manufacturers.......doubtful that any OEMs have them as yet. You should start seeing them in a couple of months when the CPUs start rolling out.:D

New paste.........make sure your temp sensing prog is reading correctly........check your voltages (vcore, etc). Your temps should be < 35º idle with the stock cooler at default settings. I just built a gaming box for a client using a Giga MA790GX, 9850BE, Zerotherm Zen cooler with a small...

The first DDR3 board announced..... http://http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/NewsRoom/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=1228&MenuID=13&LanID=0:D

Understood. I have two SB750 boards with bios' updated for AM2+/AM3 CPUs. I was refering to new boards which support DDR3.....:D

I've got one on order from Bottom Line Telecommunications......$296(US) shipped. If you wait a bit after the initial feeding frenzy they'll drop in price. Me....I can't wait! :D

AM3s aren't going to be seen in wild for a couple of months, at least. The board manufacturers haven't announced any AM3 boards and until they do, AMD isn't going to be in any hurry to activate the DDR3 portion of the IMC.......somebody's BSing!:D

Actually, SoF over at XS is running a Phen II @ ~4ghz/air cooled on a Foxconn without enabling ACC. There seems to be much less of an advantage using ACC on the upcoming II than there was with the original Phenom. Time will tell, however.:D

I seriously doubt that Intel users drank the Obama Kool Aid...... http://www.maxitmag.com/loose-wires/articles/intel-users-less-intelligent-than-amd.html:D

Here's an article on the transistor design improvements made to 45nm.........a bit technical in spots, but a good read. It tends to explain why AMD hasn't jumped on the HK/MG horse yet!:D http://eetimes.eu/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=212002481

LOL..If you're selling blood for comp parts, you'd be drained dry putting an i7 box together:D!

I suppose this means that Intel will break from the tradition of using names from the Northwest..........after Nehalem we have*ta da* SUSANOO! Choke your chicken, Intel.:D

I'm planning just that......on one of the three SB750 boards I've got sitting here!:D

No, these runs are usless other than to point out the advances in AMD's design process.......which is exactly what the demo was intended to do. Agena, with all its warts, could only strain to ~4ghz on gas. Deneb gets to 6+ghz. 2+ghz more headroom= a whole lot more rockin' and rollin'!:D...

Barcelona.......4ghz on cold sh*t..:rolleyes: Deneb.........6ghz on cold sh*t...:eek: AMD's transistor improvement is showing up big-time!

Found this comparo between the current 'Spider' platform and the upcoming 'Dragon'.....you're welcome!:D http://en.expreview.com/2008/11/18/amd-dragon-platforms-plan-and-performance-exposed.html#more-1307

http://it.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3456:D

Ya..HondaGuy has been rubbing everybodys nose in that OC over at XS. 3.25 stable is the best i've gotten on 2 Barcy BEs.:mad: Ran the 9950 @ 3.5, but it wasn't real happy about it.:D http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=427744

Here's the whole ball 'o wax posting from XS..... This might answer some of the questions being raised.

LOL........his last job was probably at Best Buy!:D

Didn't want to state..........the chip is still under NDA.:D

Found these on an 'un-named' site......big pickup in MySQL and power consumption reduction.....looks like AMD has a winner in the server sector. AMD Opteron 2384: 2.7 GHz AMD Opteron 2356: 2.3 GHz Intel Xeon X5470: 3.33 GHz Intel Xeon L5430: 2.66 GHz For clock/clock comparisons: Opty...

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/11/11/amd-announces-move-32nm http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/38941/135/ I think you're wading in your own FUD!:D

Thanks! Didn't check it before posting.:D

Absolutely right on! You only need to look at current economic conditions to realize a chip swap and bios upgrade is looking really good to the business sector.:D

LOL. These are server power benchies.......nothing to see here......move along!:D AMD's rebuttal to the original INQ post: http://http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/11/07/amd-explains-shanghai

Might be a bit premature to make assertions about speeds since nobody has benched a 45mn Phenom. Your probably right-on with the FX assesment........high-k and additional tweaks to the core, Q3-Q4 2009 would push the clocks to point that a high-clocked FX would be doable. 32mn probably the end...

Both the Phenoms in my sig are rock solid (Prime blend) at those volts and speeds. Thay do, however, run hot. You'll need better cooling than stock if you want to push these things.:D

You might want to check this thread...... http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.php?t=92706 Opty ~mid-November........hoping for an early December Deneb!:D

Ya........looks like it might be a crapshoot on which H/S you get.............guess I got lucky!:D On the other hand, OP is interested in a BE chip. I'd be very inclined to think it will come with a heatpipe. That being said, if OP trys O/Cing much, even the heatpipe cooler isn't going to...

Don't think so........every AMD I've bought since the Opty 165 has had a copper heatpipe cooler.......that's 1 Opty, 2 5000be's, 1 9850BE, 1 9950BE. The heatsink is made by AVC and has been the AMD reference cooler for several years.:D

Man, this thread is tracking about as well as a wino in a bowl of jello. Move along Trolls........nothing to see here!:p

Ya.......I ran a 9850BE in an Abit AX78 until I bought a Gigabarf 790GX. It ran fine at 2.8ghz, but I could clock it up to 3.25 in the Giga. Just don't expect much as far as O/Cing goes. You will probably need to check Asus' support site for bios updates.:D