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Its wot I got. And it fukken rokks.

Translation for the slow: ATI implemented DX11 by addition to its already existing architecture. Tesselation was already there but not DX "visible". NV implemented a new architecture which, apart from being hot and thirsty (in its current implementation, get it?) shows a lot of potential...

Some nvidia fan boy hey... Look at my sig and pull your head in.

Fun idea but not gonna happen on 40nm. 28nm is the next node, which in transistor "length" is a huge shrink. 28 will make these currently ridiculous sized chips more than viable. Some points though; - I don't think Fermi needs a ground up redesign; IMO the arc is healthy, and with a few tweaks...

Umm why? I can't see XFX dropping NV for good.

What respin? Kyle's already said A3 is it for this chip. NV's next high end silicon will most likely be something along the lines of GT580.

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Trimlock FX5 series were bad architecturally. I honestly don't think Fermi is (in potential anyway). Maybe 3 billion trannies (no not that kind) were just a bit too many on a leaky 40nm process. Bring a few revisions and a shrink and lets see what happens. We're not here for the short term are we.

Didn't you here, NV shot JFK..... Seriously m8, conspiracy theories only work if the truth never comes out. NV is a hardware manufacturer, their performance (and hopefully to a lesser degree mindshare) are what sell hardware. This is just a product that's late to market, not a predetermined failure.

First things first kill Turbo boost, and all power saving measures. Run on an uneven multi at all times. 21 is your friend. Kill VDroop with LLC if you can. Oh fukk it this guide is da bomb (for 920s, but perfect for 930s, no EIST problems for anyone with a 930)...

Wonder if the calls are only in "extreme" tessellation cases. Honestly I doubt Unigine would go out of their way to break DX11 spec. I think the timing of this release is more appropriate than suspicious.

Yeah 5850s have regs. There are two reasons why Cypress chips are binned as 5850s rather than 5870s: Either they can't hit the required clockspeeds for 5870 performance, or part of the shader silicon is broken. If A, then they won't overclock like 5870s will, if B then they might overclock like...

Vcore @ 1.22V here, 4.01GHz. More stable then a stable table. Will check my uncore etc and get back. There are definitely ways to sweetspot this cpu.

QuadMe, the first pic is tesselation off, not normal. Check out the dragon's neck spikes, its obvious. Also, anyone set it to extreme and pushed all the tesselation values to 2? Its INSANE...

Chuck on the 10.3a drivers. Could be that?

Here's mine:

5870 mobility is basically a slightly underclocked 5770, not 4770. Also take into account the rig used for the test - old to say the least. And this is the 470 we're talking about. Massive core (rumored at 550mm^2) and 2 6pins so 225W max. Factor in massive delay, 2 respins, and things don't...

I'm reading possibly an A2. Even so NV's respins have been about increasing wafer yield, not changing primary arc. If the clockspeeds are right, then...

Just found this at B3D. Don't think its been posted so:

krupted you're speaking bollocks. Nvidia struggling ffs. And seriously "the g80/92 being the only real highlight in the last 10 years. but even that is too weak now", well derr, its called outdated. Grow a brain.

Would that be AMD? Seriously, joining up to make this post doesn't give you any credibility at all.

I do find this annoying. One thing you have to understand Simpson5774 is that my urge to upgrade has only now hit, and I am not willing to drop cash on, say, a Q6600 when in a matter of months it will be superceded. Easy to understand isn't it. Some people, not everyone, have a reason to be a...

No way its the cpu. There isn't much difference between our rigs, and there are no probs on my end. Driver issue? You're gonna have to go hunting for the problem.

Fark. Have money to spend, want to spend money. Need product. This is ridiculous.

Maxxed my rig destroys this game. What type of psu are you using?

I have the M850. You won't have a problem.

I would agree with you but there seems to be a lot of peeps on different forums saying their engineering sample Yorkies run fine. Just what changed between ES and commercial release?

Works both ways. NV refusing to license SLI on Intel chipsets means in court it would be hard for NV to win. They've kind of dug their own grave. Anyway, where does it say Intel is going to stop NV from making their own version of chipset?

Definitely a result of NV/Intel bad blood. NV refusing to licence SLI on Intel chipsets, Intel hitting back with this Yorkfield crap. Weren't the ES Yorkfields fine on 680i? If that's the case these two companies need to get their shit together. Biggest CPU manufacturer fighting biggest GPU...

Awesome performance for price, which is IMO still a bit sad. Hopefully AMD can become competitive again in the next gen.

I much prefer needing hardware to catch up to software rather than vice-versa. Crysis coded poorly? Come on guys, you make a leap, you pay a toll. I bought an 8800GT after seeing my X1900 crawl in Crysis, and am damn happy with the results. 1280/960 (or 1360 on my lcd tv), all high, POM and...

LOL, jonnyGuru said it, so its kind of evidence enough. What he's saying is that the cards have a physical limitation wrt memory speed. You can go higher, but in the process you'll accumulate damage, eventually killing your GT. Not so hard to believe really.

Price/performance??? The card rocks because, in value terms, its unbeatable. And it's friggin fast. There will always be faster cards, but virtual GTX performance for less than 300 bucks? Yep its crap...

Am I the only one who likes the fact Crysis is gonna scale with future upgrades? You've got a game that is already beautiful, and its gonna look better down the track.....how is that a bad thing? Isn't this the whole point of pc gaming? Controls at their purist, hardware that evolves, engines...

Just ordered mine, and my rig is virtually identical to yours headhunter, so I'm kinda happy. Rest of the rig will get upgraded once Intel's new cpus hit, so this is a good little boost in the meantime. Best value card ever IMO.

NV definitely encourages harvesting little sisters in BioShock.....

Never hopeless dude. Alot of us have been in the exact same boat. Just keep on truckin'.

NV has committed to a 1 year full refresh cycle, starting with the G80 line of gpus. There is no doubt a new high end card will be released. What it is though, is still pretty much anyone's guess.

Not going to happen with a 7900GS. For perspective, I'm running the game maxxed at 1280/960, on an overclocked X1900XT.

Pot, kettle, you know where I'm going with this dont you?