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In reality, there will be a performance increase and if you overclock, so far the lower end Core 2 Duos are looking promising already. However... There's really no reason since you already have a dual-core processor that is very good - you should be getting great performance and it's not like...
I hate to say this but you AMD !!!!!!s... I mean, do you have jobs? Lives maybe? I used to think you were human beings but lately I've begun to think otherwise. Maybe you're loyal robots that can't go against their code - you spend your days refreshing internet websites and counting down days to...
Indeed - that's the one I'll be waiting on. See, my computer is more than enough for myself at this time - so I really don't have any trouble waiting for the upgrade. I was tossing sideway glances at some of those dual-core Opterons - but after looking at the benchmarks for Conroe, I'm waiting...
I just feel that at those low speeds, that'd be a real heck of a nightmare for software. We're talking like, one thread per CPU kind of thing. :eek:
I'm definitely the most interested to see software catching up in two threads - let alone keeping up with quad-core etc. Yeah. I'd be...
It does seem like a software nightmare to me to be honest, splitting all that software up - but I am about as far from a programmer as you can get, so... :rolleyes:
Personally I can see tens but hundreds... I guess it'd really depend. Something about 100 2GHz (Or even 1GHz) cores screams...
What kind of cooling? Damn, you're only a few C above me at full load last time I checked and well, yeah. :D
(As a note, I agree. The D920 is worth your money and an excellent processor - especially with it's overclocking potential on air)
Prices and everything are mostly speculation I believe - but I do suppose this is about as close as it gets - all prices would obviously be subject to gross amounts of change.
Intel Conroe
E4200 2MB 1.60GHz 800MHz FSB Q4 $169. us
E6200 2MB 1.60GHz 1066MHz FSB Q4 $179. us
E6300 2MB...
The RAM is nothing outstanding - but I've heard very good things about the PSU, and it seems to have done nicely in reviews if I remember. The RAM... Some would recommend maybe getting only 1GB and making it 667 depending on the prices. With a 775 build, DDR2 is your only real choice, so with...
I agree - if anyone can find a good deal on a dual-core it'd be worth it even if they didn't match a single core's overclocked speeds. If we see more smp patches for games, he could find that the performance gain would be pretty much in his favour - and you'd also benefit from the many other...
It would seem that it's most likely bad contact between the heatsink and CPU, although to be honest bad airflow could definitely cause that - although it could be other reasons. Your friend doesn't have any thermal paste like Arctic Silver 5?
First point - if the team doesn't exist, you are cheering for nothing, putting money on nothing, and supporting nothing. And you can't call AMD your "team," and then simultaneously say that a game your team played and lost in has "no right" being stickied in "your turf."
Second point - how...
There's always that uncertainty regarding it - not all are created equal, and it goes without saying that not everyone will get the same results. But the chances are consistently higher (Nearly to an assumed average) with Opterons.
I'm with you on that... If they release any, I'll be getting an E6600 and trying for 2.67GHz+. But that all depends on how overclocking goes with Conroe too. I'm just hopeful... If I can get the kind of performance shown in those benchmarks? I'd be happy. :D
Especially if it isn't at a price...
Pretty much. :rolleyes:
But we've been told by the Intel guys that there's already a new core, a successor to Conroe, that's been through several stages of development right now. So Intel's already got Conroe's successor working through development - Conroe isn't on the market yet, and...
I think most of our speculation regarding the Conroe product launch comes from our Intel employees here. So it's part speculation, but you'd think if anyone knows what's going on, they do? That's about as close to the real thing as you can get. 3 months, 4 months, 5 months - it's not even half a...
Time comparisons. You wait for Conroe in about 4 months time and you have something that will beat your current system and give you a little more life overall. You buy now, 4 months down the road everyone who waited that little bit has something better than you at half the price. "Oops." That'd...
Not everyone has the money to run around buying up stuff. You're basically telling people to buy immediately without any regard to future consideration. The problem is, we all know AMD is kicking Intel's ass right now - but some of us choose to say, "Hey, Intel is going to be kicking AMD's ass 4...
True I mean, I guess it depends on what you call a short wait or not. Literally speaking, we tend to be accustomed to "Buy something, and 6 months later it's old." So personally I guess I feel that if he has the money, nothing's stopping him from getting himself a fantastic system - or if he's...
To be honest if you're willing to go all out and get yourself an FX-60, you may want to wait for an upgrade to the upcoming Intel Conroe, which will topple the FX-60 system you intend to buy now, and in reality it's only a small wait.
That said, if you're dead set on AMD, I still agree with...
I agree, because even though steppings etc are a good indication, people seem to agree that it can be good or bad - it's just that those of a general stepping tend to do "this well." The best way to find out would be to test them all yourself - as tough as it sounds, if someone says "This...
If gaming is your primary concern and you want the best you can get, then you might consider asking the AMD guys over there about some solutions they can hook you up with (Not that we can't, but the Intel forum is for Intel builds IMO). That said, both processors you have picked are good - but...
!!!!!!s, sure, or guys who have felt suffocated under the AMD !!!!!!s and their performance crown. You should expect that guys are going to be saying "Now it's your old technology vs our new technology, how do you like it?" To be fair, the AMD !!!!!!s are directly provoking it. But it's so...
I'm really hopeful that Conroe turns out to be a great overclocker, because I want to be able to buy a lower end one and cheat my way to the top models. I'm not made of money, and something about spending XE money on a processor scares me. If you got the money, great, but I'd like to be able to...
LOL! But I was under the impression that the Smithfields ran extremely hot as a processor on air, which was one reason why I never bought one. I've heard nothing but amazing things about the 9XX Preslers though.
An enthusiast doesn't shove the positive ends of their current brand of choice down your throat. I don't tell people what to buy - I recommend. I praise positive technology from both sides, and root on the sides for both. And you know, the last AMD I bought I believe was a K6-2. So I've bought...
Wasn't it just the 9XX series for Presler, making this a Smithfield? If so, I'd say no and just wait - if it's a Presler I would be more tempted to say yes - you've still got a decent system at 3.0GHz to be honest, and the wait will be more than worth it. Even if you wait until Conroe comes out...
To be honest I didn't really look for it but, I bought a 630 back in August and so it just kind of came standard. For the most part, a lot of the stuff out there has EM64T now - for the average user... I think I would suggest it. People say 64-bit is mostly useless, and it's true that it won't...
Personally I'm pleased with these results. The most interesting notion presented to us by the typical incompetent AMD fan is that it's "Old tech vs new tech." What did they really think AMD64 vs Pentium 4 was all about? That was hardly new technology. Prescott wasn't really new. You all seemed...
I find Socket T and the installation of the heatsink to be a troublesome task. I would check to make sure it's properly installed (And thus making good contact with the thermal paste/CPU heatspreader) again, since it can be hard to tell if you're installing it on the motherboard while it's...
I believe the 9xx is simply better. It's a die shrink so it runs a great deal cooler, and it containts 2x 2MB L2 cache, that runs with no increased latency - making it not only double what the 8xx has, but at the same speed. The processor also has virtualization etc. - you may feel uncomfortable...
The P4 with HT was the reason it wouldn't appear to be running at "100%" because it imitates two processor cores - and since most games aren't multithreaded, they only make use of one theoretical core. This means that when the CPU isn't Hyper-Threaded, it will run at 100% CPU usage for that game...
Yeah the X2 4400+ and 175 are both clocked at 2.2GHz - but from what I've heard, a 175 Opteron is likely to overclock quite nicely in comparison to the X2, although personally you probably wouldn't have many issues with the X2 either. I'd go for the Opteron but I guess we'd need an AMD expert in...
Wasn't there also a Quake 4 patch that supports multiple processors? Aside from that - if you want a new dual-core to fiddle with, then why not? You've got the money - you're interested - and I'm sure it would make everything else you do with the computer better (Provided it's overclocked to...
I have to agree with this statement. You got a computer with a monitor as a surprise - and the way you talk about it makes you seem all disappointed and sad. The impression I get is that of your dad showing you a brand new computer under the tree and you sinking in disappointment. This is hardly...
I'm a little behind the game but if it's true that we won't be seeing a new architecture from AMD for a few years then it will be very similar to how it was with Intel's NetBurst. I'll root for Intel, but I'm excited for both sides when it's like this. We all want to see fierce competition...
I know well of AMDs performance supremacy but I'll still hold out and buy an Intel system when Conroe comes out and I have the money. To be honest I can't really tell you why I choose to buy Intel - I think it's just the name really. When I first went to get a new computer a few years back it...
Definitely Guild Wars.
I'm part of the mentality that time should yield a reward myself, and I do hope they increase the level cap later. It's not something that I can truly explain, I simply feel that any RPG, even a great one like Guild Wars (With a different focus from your average online...