Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 57" 7680x2160 super ultrawide (mini-LED)

I took the plunge. Bestbuy has a rare offer of 6 whoppy yr. of extended warranty, so a total of 7 yr. The truth is, I'm not really happy about the price. Same time last yr., samsung the manufacturer offers a special "trade in", so you can bring any junk monitor in, and they'll offer you $??. So bestbuy then beat that offer. Along w/ a shorter 5 yr. extended warranty, it's only $1450 or so on an open box prodcut. Today, I paid $1K more, but the only gain is that extra 1 yr. warranty.

anyhoo, so far I have 2 questions, please jump in:

1) Under Scale / Layout on your windows 11, what do you bunch of Samsung owner choose? 125% or 150%?

2) I have been using video cards since 1990s. Currently, I am using the embedded Thunderbolt 4 port on my Asus Z890 Apex motherboard, which display 7680x2160x60Hz (Intel embedded graphics module). So the monitor is running at 60Hz. My old Viewsonic 4K that I use for a good no. of yr. is also at 60Hz. So I test my video demand just now. Going to Devianart to view gundam robot photos, there is no delay. But going to youtube, there is a 1 to 2 sec. delay in populating the 4 x 2 row of video (they only display a max. of 4 video per row) when I scroll down.

Previously w/ my old 4K monitor, I have a GTX 950 at 2GB of RAM, and there is no delay on scrolling thru youtube.

This GTX 950 is now connect to my 2nd monitor, an old 60" Sharp TV at 1920x1080.

So if I don't do any video gaming, it seems that I can get by w/o buying a new video card. Can I get you guys opinion on this?

3) at 60Hz, is that any negative effect, for e.g., your eyes feel tired? And why is everyone so caught up w/ 120Hz or 240Hz? because as i said, the old Viewsonic 4K, along w/ the older Philip-LG 4K, were both at 60Hz, and in total, it's been 14 years using those 2 x 4K monitor at 60Hz. And they work very nicely all these years. Like what do you guys get from 120 to 240Hz? Is it just the gaming because I have no video game on this new PC. And if I do, it would be 1 game , play a few times per yr.

4) does your 57" Samsung has that lamination on the entire screen like what this guy is talking about? because my one does not


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ7gQMEnLB8&t=918s

5) the screen is not very tall compares to my 4K monitor. where do you guys position the vertical? Is your eyes looking at the dead center of the screen? or at the top of the screen? or to make comparison easier, is the top of your head lines up w/ the top of the monitor?

6) how long is that blue "Product registration" screen going to come up?
 
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IMHO 60Hz isn't a big deal unless you're gaming. More makes the desktop look a bit smoother if you're not. I guess it depends on what you're doing. Some people really like it, I really don't care. I run my main and gaming screens at 120+ on the desktop because I can, but the 60Hz monitors at the office don't bother me.

I'd think your Z890 board ought to be able to do more than 60Hz. Arrow Lake + Z890 can support DP2 and HDMI 2.1. Looks like your board just has 2 ThunderBolt ports which can do 8k @60Hz with DSC, so should be able to do half of that at 120Hz. Looks like you don't have an HDMI? I'm not sure why you can't get 120Hz.
 
I run 125Hz scaling on mine. I also run at 240Hz unless I'm using the split screen function and using two inputs at once. (Which I do for part of the day, every weekday for work.)
 
IMHO 60Hz isn't a big deal unless you're gaming. More makes the desktop look a bit smoother if you're not. I guess it depends on what you're doing. Some people really like it, I really don't care. I run my main and gaming screens at 120+ on the desktop because I can, but the 60Hz monitors at the office don't bother me.

I'd think your Z890 board ought to be able to do more than 60Hz. Arrow Lake + Z890 can support DP2 and HDMI 2.1. Looks like your board just has 2 ThunderBolt ports which can do 8k @60Hz with DSC, so should be able to do half of that at 120Hz. Looks like you don't have an HDMI? I'm not sure why you can't get 120Hz.
*In Thunderbolt4TM mode, supports up to 8K@60Hz x1 with DSC or 4K@60Hz x 2, maximum total bandwidth up to 23.8Gbps or 16Gbps/16Gbps, for resolution support please check DisplayPort 2.1 specs.
***In DP alt mode, Only one USB Type-C® port supports up to UHBR20 at a time.
at the manual, the above is all they said. It's only 8K at 60Hz, but as I go to Windows 11 setting, I can set it at 120Hz. So I'm going to leave it at 120Hz for 2 weeks, and then drop back to 60Hz and see if there is any noticeable difference.

however, it says bit - depth 8 bit. Color Format RGB. For those who uses a video card, is your display also shows bit depth 8 bit?
 
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at the manual, the above is all they said. It's only 8K at 60Hz, but as I go to Windows 11 setting, I can set it at 120Hz. So I'm going to leave it at 120Hz for 2 weeks, and then drop back to 60Hz and see if there is any noticeable difference.

however, it says bit - depth 8 bit. Color Format RGB. For those who uses a video card, is your display also shows bit depth 8 bit?
Mine shows 10-bit.
 
something goofy is going on with your setup. You should be able to get max outta your hardware for your system specs.
 
Mine shows 10-bit.
alright, exactly what do I lose from this extra 2 bits? The color of any of my photos in my SSD looks the same. I just view the photos I took for my pets in the summer, and just for the fun of it, I have downloaded some photos in the past of some professional mature film artist, in which those photos were taken by professional, and view them for color clarity. They all look normal, I can't tell a difference btwn. that vs. the old 4K monitor.

and I just click my 2nd monitor connected to my old GTX 950 that comes w/ 2GB of RAM, it also says:

60Hz, Bit Depth 8 bit, Color Format RGB

this old GTX 950 is only use to view video at the Sharp 60" screen. So it's only doing 1920x1080

what does most people have on their video card? Say they own a 8GB of RAM 4060 or higher, what is their bit depth?
 
You have to have a card that supports DisplayPort 2.1/2.1a or HDMI 2.1 to achieve 10-bit color depth. You have to use the higher bandwidth cables to get that. The ones marked "8K capable" are what you use for that. Some cables are also marked with the actual bandwidth limits they support. It takes more bandwidth than your iGPU or GTX 950 are capable of.
 
thank you. I really appreciate this.

so the USB C to Display Port cable that I bought from amazon is this one: they said it's Display port 2.1, so it should give me 10 bit.

https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Displ...hz+8k+120hz+braided+alu+cable+,aps,137&sr=8-1

as to my Sharp HD TV screen, the cable was at least 10 yr. old, so that was definitely a cheap cable. It is very long 30 ft. or so cable that branch from my TV all the way to the inside of my PC, so I'll save the money to grade it. As I don't use it often, just to watch a few video here and there.

But that Ugreen cable was bought last Oct. 2025, that should work. Unless my Thunderbolt / USB C port only support 8 bit, because the Ugreen cable can do 40Gbps, but the Thunderbolt port specification says "maximum total bandwidth up to 23.8Gbps or 16Gbps/16Gbps"
 
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update: When I go to the Samsung control panel, it says Display Port Version 1.4 on it. Is this cause by an old firmware? Or could this be caused by the Thunderbolt that I use, in which it's only doing Ver 1.4?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X93bXnG0GVI

but according to this guy, he's saying that if I set my freq. to 120Hz, I can't get 10 bit , so to get 10 bit, he is saying I need to downsize to 60Hz
 
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update: When I go to the Samsung control panel, it says Display Port Version 1.4 on it. Is this cause by an old firmware? Or could this be caused by the Thunderbolt that I use, in which it's only doing Ver 1.4?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X93bXnG0GVI

but according to this guy, he's saying that if I set my freq. to 120Hz, I can't get 10 bit , so to get 10 bit, he is saying I need to downsize to 60Hz

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Your card can't do DisplayPort 2.1. You need a 50 series NVIDIA card or a Radeon 7000 or 9000 series card to do that. If you have the right hardware, you can get 10-bit and 240Hz, so 120Hz should be possible. A GeForce GTX 950 only does DisplayPort 1.4.
 
Of course, the GTX 950 is too old. But I'm only using the GTX 950 to connect to my Sharp TV. This 57" is connected to the Thunderbolt / USB C port of the Asus Z890 Apex Motherboard port.

Just now, I switch back to 60Hz, it still sits at 8 bit. I think it's the Asus USB-C port, not the cable, and not the monitor
 
Of course, the GTX 950 is too old. But I'm only using the GTX 950 to connect to my Sharp TV. This 57" is connected to the Thunderbolt / USB C port of the Asus Z890 Apex Motherboard port.

Just now, I switch back to 60Hz, it still sits at 8 bit. I think it's the Asus USB-C port, not the cable, and not the monitor
Good chance of it. I mean there are random experiments you can run, like trying the other port or running with 1 screen, but I suspect board limitations are likely an issue. You have a higher end "gaming" board. Those are expected to be used with discreet GPUs. They didn't even give you an HDMI port. My much cheaper ASRock Steel Legend Z890 board has one. Arrow Lake can do DP2.1 UBHR20 and DP 2.1. Just because the proc can do it doesn't mean Asus is going to implement it on a board where they expect the onboard video will serve as a backup. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if a bunch of B860 boards and Dell/HP/Lenovo/etc. corporate pre-builts could run that screen at full res & 240Hz.

One thing you could try is switching ports and running the G9 solo. Only one port can run full speed. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the fast port was always the same one no matter what you plug in. Might help. Or not. Just something to try, and it's easy.
 
the bigger problem is, btwn. 8 bit vs. 10 bit, I lost 10.5 billion color. The funny thing is, I can't tell any difference on a photo.

Now, on MPC Black Edition, during play back, there is some "stairwell" effect. And I thought it's a s/w bug because VLC doesn't give that error on the same video (home made pet video I record), but the google search engine said "Banding Prevention: 10-bit significantly reduces harsh lines or "steps" in smooth transitions like sunsets or fog"

it looks like I need to take another plunge to accommodate this monitor. I assume all of you are using high end video card on your Samsung? and I'm the only one using USB-C embedded Intel graphics?

anyhoo, is most of you using the HDMI cable that c/w the box? Assuming that's HDMI 2.1 or did you guys go buy a better cable ? or does most of you stay w/ the Display Port cable? What does everyone ends up using?
 
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3) at 60Hz, is that any negative effect, for e.g., your eyes feel tired? And why is everyone so caught up w/ 120Hz or 240Hz? because as i said, the old Viewsonic 4K, along w/ the older Philip-LG 4K, were both at 60Hz, and in total, it's been 14 years using those 2 x 4K monitor at 60Hz. And they work very nicely all these years. Like what do you guys get from 120 to 240Hz? Is it just the gaming because I have no video game on this new PC. And if I do, it would be 1 game , play a few times per yr.

To me it's all about responsiveness. Just moving a cursor around feels better at 120+ Hz. 120 Hz is good enough for me so I don't care that much that I can't get higher refresh rates than that on MacOS.

5) the screen is not very tall compares to my 4K monitor. where do you guys position the vertical? Is your eyes looking at the dead center of the screen? or at the top of the screen? or to make comparison easier, is the top of your head lines up w/ the top of the monitor?
If I look straight forward my eyes hit about the top 1/3 of the screen. I find this comfortable.

6) how long is that blue "Product registration" screen going to come up?
Can't remember ever seeing this. If it has some button to click then you can probably get rid of it.

update: When I go to the Samsung control panel, it says Display Port Version 1.4 on it. Is this cause by an old firmware? Or could this be caused by the Thunderbolt that I use, in which it's only doing Ver 1.4?


but according to this guy, he's saying that if I set my freq. to 120Hz, I can't get 10 bit , so to get 10 bit, he is saying I need to downsize to 60Hz
Your GPU doesn't support DP 2.1 so it runs at 1.4. Nothing more than that.

DP 1.4 should be capable of doing 8Kx2K @ 120 Hz @ 10-bit as long as Display Stream Compression is supported. Your GTX 950 most likely doesn't.
 
3) strangely, at 60Hz, my eyes feel tired. My eyes instantly notice something is wrong. This should only happen for anything less than 60Hz, as human eyes function at 60Hz. So unless the "60Hz" that Samsung advertise is not really 60Hz. I can't understand it. So I set it back to 120Hz and that's the max. my embedded Intel module can handle

After link such as this one:

https://ca.ktcplay.com/blogs/produc...g?shpxid=a12171ed-f431-46c3-8333-334f2aa3e8c5

I am sold on getting a new video card. For now, I'm waiting for Cyber Mon. or Black Fri. to get that RTX 5060 on sale. And I have to use that 3 ft. Display port cable that c/w the box, as the RTX 5060 only has 1 x HDMI, and that goes to the 2nd monitor/TV, a long 30 ft. cable, so I have to go w/ Display port only.

There is no specification on the display port cable that Samsung gives. I hope it can do 8K a 240Hz. I also check Amazon, Ugreen has one, but their advertising has discrepancy:

https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-DisplayPort-FreeSync-Compatible-Graphics/dp/B0DL59ZSBB/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2RLFN25K3C409&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.f4CN0p6N7wBPwTOdlDJx042bKvgMvmVu8mWH1ymzmjm2qmpQlXnGN5GJZoEUixhIsgMQdV4HMdMlb_xll4rfuzVms7iOI5zu3L7w2oSCRZ984dY_GfwP6SSAKwpYqqjLcBqCUrUIC-uzBYf1kXloWPN48VdYmGtsHxGvLaTvwM_2S15yVGCyuYvR_U0mCcxwZhCoh5pW0YONkQaljagE4iBROTmLIIGlie-NA9Nt8Ls.pkAnGBVgLX34MiR941q6lUpb5PdittvrpqXfyXFcB_Y&dib_tag=se&keywords=UGREEN+16K@60Hz+Displayport+Cable+2.1,+DP+Cable+8K@240Hz+4K@480Hz+80Gbps&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1792908031&sprefix=ugreen+16k+60hz+displayport+cable+2.1,+dp+cable+8k+240hz+4k+480hz+80gbps,aps,192&sr=8-1&th=1

they said 8K@240Hz on their description, but on those photos, it says 8K at 60 or 120Hz only. I did email Ugreen.

If any of us bought a better Display Port 2.1 cable, and the cable can do 8K at 240Hz w/ DSC or w/o DSC, please post the make and model.

P.S. the only small thing I forgot to mention, is from the above video, that guy said there is RGB ring at the back. My one doesn't have it. So I would imagine it's at the firmware somewhere that I have to set it. But if that can affect the rest of the LCD monitor, such as shorten the lifespan, then I'll pass
 
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P.S. the only small thing I forgot to mention, is from the above video, that guy said there is RGB ring at the back. My one doesn't have it. So I would imagine it's at the firmware somewhere that I have to set it. But if that can affect the rest of the LCD monitor, such as shorten the lifespan, then I'll pass
It's the "Infinity Core lighting". You might want to experiment with the colors as some of them are brigher and others darker. I just use a fairly unobnoxious static purple color on mine.
 
3) strangely, at 60Hz, my eyes feel tired. My eyes instantly notice something is wrong. This should only happen for anything less than 60Hz, as human eyes function at 60Hz. So unless the "60Hz" that Samsung advertise is not really 60Hz. I can't understand it. So I set it back to 120Hz and that's the max. my embedded Intel module can handle
That's not quite right. My Dell U5226KW flickers at a particular setting & hurts my eyes. This is totally different hardware so my point is just that yes it does happen, but my Dell screen flickers if I run it at less than 120Hz in "fast" mode. Fast mode for this screen is 5ms. Standard mode is 8ms. So not a gaming monitor. At any rate if I run it in fast mode I can't let the refresh drop below 120. In standard mode it's fine at 60. I'm thinking you might be running into something similar.
 
3) strangely, at 60Hz, my eyes feel tired. My eyes instantly notice something is wrong. This should only happen for anything less than 60Hz, as human eyes function at 60Hz. So unless the "60Hz" that Samsung advertise is not really 60Hz. I can't understand it. So I set it back to 120Hz and that's the max. my embedded Intel module can handle

After link such as this one:

https://ca.ktcplay.com/blogs/produc...g?shpxid=a12171ed-f431-46c3-8333-334f2aa3e8c5

I am sold on getting a new video card. For now, I'm waiting for Cyber Mon. or Black Fri. to get that RTX 5060 on sale. And I have to use that 3 ft. Display port cable that c/w the box, as the RTX 5060 only has 1 x HDMI, and that goes to the 2nd monitor/TV, a long 30 ft. cable, so I have to go w/ Display port only.

There is no specification on the display port cable that Samsung gives. I hope it can do 8K a 240Hz. I also check Amazon, Ugreen has one, but their advertising has discrepancy:

https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-DisplayPort-FreeSync-Compatible-Graphics/dp/B0DL59ZSBB/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2RLFN25K3C409&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.f4CN0p6N7wBPwTOdlDJx042bKvgMvmVu8mWH1ymzmjm2qmpQlXnGN5GJZoEUixhIsgMQdV4HMdMlb_xll4rfuzVms7iOI5zu3L7w2oSCRZ984dY_GfwP6SSAKwpYqqjLcBqCUrUIC-uzBYf1kXloWPN48VdYmGtsHxGvLaTvwM_2S15yVGCyuYvR_U0mCcxwZhCoh5pW0YONkQaljagE4iBROTmLIIGlie-NA9Nt8Ls.pkAnGBVgLX34MiR941q6lUpb5PdittvrpqXfyXFcB_Y&dib_tag=se&keywords=UGREEN+16K@60Hz+Displayport+Cable+2.1,+DP+Cable+8K@240Hz+4K@480Hz+80Gbps&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1792908031&sprefix=ugreen+16k+60hz+displayport+cable+2.1,+dp+cable+8k+240hz+4k+480hz+80gbps,aps,192&sr=8-1&th=1

they said 8K@240Hz on their description, but on those photos, it says 8K at 60 or 120Hz only. I did email Ugreen.

If any of us bought a better Display Port 2.1 cable, and the cable can do 8K at 240Hz w/ DSC or w/o DSC, please post the make and model.

P.S. the only small thing I forgot to mention, is from the above video, that guy said there is RGB ring at the back. My one doesn't have it. So I would imagine it's at the firmware somewhere that I have to set it. But if that can affect the rest of the LCD monitor, such as shorten the lifespan, then I'll pass
I've confirmed that the cable that comes with the display can do 7680x2160 (which is closer to 6k, not 8k), at 240Hz. The problem is that the cable is way too short for much of anything. So I had to buy a longer cable to properly utilize the display. Also, you worry about the weirdest shit. Yours almost certainly has the RGB ring on it and that has nothing to do with the rest of the monitor.
 
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I've confirmed that the cable that comes with the display can do 7680x2160 (which is closer to 6k, not 8k), at 240Hz. The problem is that the cable is way too short for much of anything. So I had to buy a longer cable to properly utilize the display. Also, you worry about the weirdest shit. Yours almost certainly has the RGB ring on it and that has nothing to do with the rest of the monitor.
Been there, done that with HDMI cables. The included cable is way too short, so I have to get another one. Cheap "Inland" 8k HDMI 15' cable from Microcenter worked most of the time... until it glitched. Again. I think that cable was evil. It was fine until I was just about to do a head shot in some game and then... glitch. Ok, maybe not that bad, but it was mostly ok until it glitched at the worst possible time. That cable wasn't certified, but at least it was cheap. Tried a couple so-called "cerfified" cables from Amazon. Those were shit. Much worse than the cheap uncertified Microcenter cable. I bet a shorter Inland cable would have been just fine. Got fed up with it and bought a Rocketfish cable from Best Buy. It's a Best Buy store brand. That worked. So did the next one, and the one and two after that. Not cheap, but works, and I'd rather spend $50-80 on a cable than have to deal with returning multiple cheap ones until I find something that works.
 
That's not quite right. My Dell U5226KW flickers at a particular setting & hurts my eyes. This is totally different hardware so my point is just that yes it does happen, but my Dell screen flickers if I run it at less than 120Hz in "fast" mode. Fast mode for this screen is 5ms. Standard mode is 8ms. So not a gaming monitor. At any rate if I run it in fast mode I can't let the refresh drop below 120. In standard mode it's fine at 60. I'm thinking you might be running into something similar.
I agree. My guess is, Samsung "Quality". This monitor is made in Viet Nam. By contrast, my last 2 x UHD Monitor, 1 from Viewsonic, 1 from LG Philip, are all at 60Hz (they only c/w 60Hz), and the LG philip last 4.5 yr., the Viewsonic is 9 yr. So w/ those 2 monitor, there is no flickering at 60Hz, but w/ this Samsung, definitely some serious flickering at 60Hz
 
I've confirmed that the cable that comes with the display can do 7680x2160 (which is closer to 6k, not 8k), at 240Hz. The problem is that the cable is way too short for much of anything. So I had to buy a longer cable to properly utilize the display. Also, you worry about the weirdest shit. Yours almost certainly has the RGB ring on it and that has nothing to do with the rest of the monitor.
Exactly, the 3 ft. cable is too short. I don't understand why they cut corner on a 3 ft. cable, 6 ft. cable is what I need, as my video card is vertical mount, suspend in mid air. So what brand did you end up buying? that it can do 8K at 240Hz?



P.S. Pendragon1 and I have the same problem: we both suffer from a male version of PMS.
 
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Exactly, the 3 ft. cable is too short. I don't understand why they cut corner on a 3 ft. cable, 6 ft. cable is what I need, as my video card is vertical mount, suspend in mid air. So what brand did you end up buying? that it can do 8K at 240Hz?
As I said, the Odyssey G9 57" isn't an 8K monitor. It's native resolution is 7680x2160. That's roughly "6K" if you want to get technical. That's the highest resolution I've tested it at. That said, the cable can do it according to the specs.
 
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you end up w/ Silkland? I didn't buy them because they are not a famous brand. I'm still waiting for Ugreen to get back to me on their amazon listing discrepancy
 
I'm not a cable snob and it works like advertised. The cable was high quality and gets the job done.
 
alright, I'll do it if Ugreen ditch me. Normally, these chinese brands, the ones that should be somewhat better, are the ones that has some R&D on product such as docking station. So using Ugreen as an eg., they have some docking station, so they should be a slightly bigger co. w/ some R&D. But like you said, in the end, these are all a bunch of mid size chinese co., they are not like giant corp. w/ billions on R&D. As long as Silkland works for you all these time, I can go w/ that.
 
Exactly, the 3 ft. cable is too short. I don't understand why they cut corner on a 3 ft. cable
The reason is likely to have a reliable cable that is up to spec. The Samsung was one of the first DP 2.1 displays back then and the longer length DP 2.1 cable specs weren't a thing. So it comes with a short cable.

Should Samsung include a longer cable on units sold today? IMO yes, but it's not like someone will not buy the display if they don't.

I don't have a DP 2.1 GPU so I can't confirm what cables work.
 
I wonder for those in the PC world, what GPU are they having on their Samsung? and is there any samsung owner upgrading to faster GPU card for the upcoming Xmas purchase
 
I wonder for those in the PC world, what GPU are they having on their Samsung? and is there any samsung owner upgrading to faster GPU card for the upcoming Xmas purchase
I don't have it connected to it, but I have a 4090. I don't see any reason to upgrade with the current shitshow of poor availability and absurd prices.
 
I wonder for those in the PC world, what GPU are they having on their Samsung? and is there any samsung owner upgrading to faster GPU card for the upcoming Xmas purchase
I got my GeForce RTX 5090 before I got the Samsung Odyssey G9 57. As for a faster GPU, the only thing out there that is faster would be the A6000, and I am not going to spend a couple desks of cash on something like that.
 
those are extremely fast video card. Good thing I don't play First person shooter game. I'll settle for RTX 5060 of any version that is cheap, since you guys told me 8GB of RAM will do, I'll stick to 8GB of RAM
 
FFS you know he meant 8K x 2K. It doesn't help being pedantic.
It's not 8kx2k, pixel count is roughly "6K". Its one of the reasons I don't like designations like that. They are inaccurate. Call it pedantic if you like but I'm technically correct, which is the best kind of correct. To answer the question more specifically, no. It doesn't automatically do anything. A cable that is capable of actual 8K resolution (which is 7680x4320), only means that it's capable of delivering the bandwidth required for such resolutions at the advertised refresh rates. It's a high bandwidth cable, that's kind of the point. To use that monitor to its fullest, you have to have a DisplayPort 2.1 capable graphics card and the appropriate cable. You need both.
 
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