You lost: Microsoft is NOT walking back Windows 11’s AI overload — scaling up Copilot and NOT rethinking Recall, business as usual

Most people are clueless about what M$ is doing so this will change nothing for 99.9% of users. I’ve already switched a couple of my systems over to Linux and my main box is next, just waiting to see if SteamOS can get their nvidia drivers sorted out.
 
This makes Apple look tastefully restrained, even with Siri AI woven throughout its software. You can leave the AI alone and it won't be in your face.
 
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I've been mostly Linux at home for 20 years, The biggest reason I still use Windows now that Linux has become more capable for games is work. Most office work is so deeply entrenched in the Microsoft/Office/365 ecosystem that it is inescapable.

Prince Valiant said:
If Linux shipped by default and had a few tutorials on startup most people probably wouldn't notice.
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Grandmothers probably wouldn't.

Where the typical low skill user would notice is when their friends or some online guide tell them to download a specific piece of software and install it. They won't be sophisticated enough to know to look for Linux work-a-likes, and even if they are, might freak out if the work-a-like has a slightly different name, or slightly different UI. That causes basic users to completely freak out.
 
gtrguy said:
just waiting to see if SteamOS can get their nvidia drivers sorted out.
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Have you considered giving Bazzite a try? I haven't yet, but I understand it already works really well, as long as you don't want DLSS5, as that is still maturing.

The biggest impediments to linux gaming these days seem to be minor frame pacing issues in some titles and the lack of kernel mode anti-cheat support in some competitive titles. Other than that, it is pretty much there now, on both AMD and Nvidia hardware, and in some cases where the CPU is the limiting factor it actually performs better in Linux than in Windows. Even HDR works these days.
 
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I switched to Kubuntu on most of my machines a little over 3 years ago and couldn't be happier. Except for the whole AMD HDMI 2.1 debacle (which should be fully resolved in 7.3) there is not been a single time that I have ever thought about changing back.

Only machines in my whole house not on Kubuntu is my ROG ally which is Bazzite, and my 9 to 5 job laptop which is a shitbox dell windows machine.

MS can do what ever they want, IDAF anymore.
 
I'm still using windows, when I see a change I don't want... like really don't want, I'll find a way to disable it, and if I cant... well then I'll worry about making my life more difficult by switching to something new
 
sfsuphysics said:
I'm still using windows, when I see a change I don't want... like really don't want, I'll find a way to disable it, and if I cant... well then I'll worry about making my life more difficult by switching to something new
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The switch is always difficult, but once you get used to it, I actually find it makes my life easier, not harder. There are so many frustrating things about how Windows is configured and set up that make me want to smash my head against a wall. Linux is not perfect either, but in my personal experience Linux is easier to live with for a competent Linux user, than Windows is to live with for a competent Windows user.

But yeah, the transition can be rough.
 
sfsuphysics said:
I'm still using windows, when I see a change I don't want... like really don't want, I'll find a way to disable it, and if I cant... well then I'll worry about making my life more difficult by switching to something new
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You'll be on Windows for a while because Microsoft is going to ride that enshittification edge until Windows 12. I imagine that you can't avoid not logging into your Microsoft account by Windows 12.
Zarathustra[H] said:
The switch is always difficult, but once you get used to it, I actually find it makes my life easier, not harder. There are so many frustrating things about how Windows is configured and set up that make me want to smash my head against a wall. Linux is not perfect either, but in my personal experience Linux is easier to live with for a competent Linux user, than Windows is to live with for a competent Windows user.

But yeah, the transition can be rough.
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Wasn't easy for me when I did it in 2021. I've been using Linux since around 2013 but never my main PC. It's always some laptop or NAS/HTPC server that I use Linux. When Windows 11 was released then I figure that was the time to switch. I had problems just playing WoW Classic, which at the time was TBC. Battle net would screw up every month and I would have to hunt down a solution. Those solutions weren't obvious either. That was before I found out about Heroic Game Launcher which automatically uses GE-PROTON. Right now there's a clean room Photoshop and Premiere called Photocraft and Filmcraft. Haven't used them but they do look like something from Adobe.
 
DukenukemX said:
Right now there's a clean room Photoshop and Premiere called Photocraft and Filmcraft. Haven't used them but they do look like something from Adobe.
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Interesting. I wasn't aware of those. I'll have to give them a try,

My needs in that area are pretty limited though. I've been happy with the likes of Gimp, even though it really just resembles the capabilities Photoishop 6 from ca 2000.

DukenukemX said:
I had problems just playing WoW Classic, which at the time was TBC. Battle net would screw up every month and I would have to hunt down a solution. Those solutions weren't obvious either. That was before I found out about Heroic Game Launcher which automatically uses GE-PROTON.
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As far as gaming goes, I haven't tried the latest and greatest yet. 2021 was probably about the last time I did, and my experience mimicked yours, that it was really cool how far it had come, but it wasn't quite ready yet, at least for me.

From what I have read, in the last couple of years most of that gap has been closed. When I finally get my game machine back up and running after the never ending custom project, I'm looking forward to give Linux gaming a try and see if I am finally happy with it.
 
DukenukemX said:
You'll be on Windows for a while because Microsoft is going to ride that enshittification edge until Windows 12. I imagine that you can't avoid not logging into your Microsoft account by Windows 12.

Wasn't easy for me when I did it in 2021. I've been using Linux since around 2013 but never my main PC. It's always some laptop or NAS/HTPC server that I use Linux. When Windows 11 was released then I figure that was the time to switch. I had problems just playing WoW Classic, which at the time was TBC. Battle net would screw up every month and I would have to hunt down a solution. Those solutions weren't obvious either. That was before I found out about Heroic Game Launcher which automatically uses GE-PROTON. Right now there's a clean room Photoshop and Premiere called Photocraft and Filmcraft. Haven't used them but they do look like something from Adobe.
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I have played Diablo 4 fine on proton, Civ series up to the latest, Arc Raiders, The Finals, all work great, most games that wont work have kernel level anti-cheats.

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Windows (11) annoyed me one time too many last year so I decided to try Linux on my main desktop. I play games but not competive shooters, and my computer is also my TV so I watch TV shows and movies on it. LG OLED 65" CX, Ryzen 7950X, Radeon 9070XT, 32G RAM, Intel X540 10G NIC, SoundBlaster AE5-Plus.

Started with Debian Trixie because it seemed the most supported and stable. Software-wise? Everything I tried worked fine. Hardware-wise? Everything worked except HDR (all washed out) and the soundcard (stereo only, I needed Dolby Digital for my 5.1 audio system) so I went back to Windows 11.

I talked about the problems I was having with it on this forum and someone suggested trying Kubuntu (25.10) since it had a much more recent version of KDE with improved HDR support -- and the HDR worked perfectly! Still couldn't get my Dolby Digital working. I decided I'd have to break down and hook up the 5.1 system using analog outputs and I could live with it. Right after I bought the cables to do this, of course the 5.1 Dolby Digital... just started working on it's own.

It wasn't any updates that made it work, I had everything in the system updated immediately after install. After a couple of re-installations, I tracked it to installing the MPV player (a video player that supports HDR playback), I don't know why but shortly after installing it (and only after installing it) the Dolby Digital support just shows up.

Mostly smooth sailing ever since. I DID run into problems installing games onto my NTFS partitioned drive. The fix for that was to install them on an Ext4 partitioned drive instead -- apparently Heroic and Steam use symlinks and filenames that don't work on NTFS. After about 3 months of never rebooting over to Windows, I just deleted it and recovered the space.

I have a Windows VM for a couple of utilities that I still prefer using but it only gets fired up a few times a month. Some things in Linux are easier to do than in Windows and vice-versa. Overall, it all equals out to be about the same level of effort; just without the annoyances.

My wife and kids are still on Windows 11, and I still keep up with their system maintenance for them. My wife has no troubles switching between our machines -- she's fine on either. I don't preach the Linux gospel, but for me, it pretty much just works. I've been on DOS from 3.3 on up, OS/2 2.1 and Warp 3.0, and every version of Windows from 3.0 to 11 INCLUDING Windows 2000 Pro (the overall best Windows release ever IMHO). And I was surprised to discover that I don't miss it.
 
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Mostly smooth sailing ever since. I DID run into problems installing games onto my NTFS partitioned drive. The fix for that was to install them on an Ext4 partitioned drive instead -- apparently Heroic and Steam use symlinks and filenames that don't work on NTFS. After about 3 months of never rebooting over to Windows, I just deleted it and recovered the space.
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The NTFS drive I have is for Windows 10. Otherwise I've moved everything to EXT4.
My wife and kids are still on Windows 11, and I still keep up with their system maintenance for them. My wife has no troubles switching between our machines -- she's fine on either. I don't preach the Linux gospel, but for me, it pretty much just works. I've been on DOS from 3.3 on up, OS/2 2.1 and Warp 3.0, and every version of Windows from 3.0 to 11 INCLUDING Windows 2000 Pro (the overall best Windows release ever IMHO). And I was surprised to discover that I don't miss it.
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Linux is not ready yet for normies to use. Until the day comes that I can just double click on a .exe and run it like it's on Windows is the day I can recommend Linux. Even better, double click a .exe and the OS warns me that a native Linux version exits of this app. Until then I can't recommend Linux for someone who can barely use a computer.
 
DukenukemX said:
The NTFS drive I have is for Windows 10. Otherwise I've moved everything to EXT4.

Linux is not ready yet for normies to use. Until the day comes that I can just double click on a .exe and run it like it's on Windows is the day I can recommend Linux. Even better, double click a .exe and the OS warns me that a native Linux version exits of this app. Until then I can't recommend Linux for someone who can barely use a computer.
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Since web apps became a thing who is actually clicking on exe's? Certainly not grandma, or grandpa. They pretty much use the browser for everything. I would estimate 90% of the regular users do as well. We're at a place were a large amount of people don't even have desktops anymore. They use their phones and a lot of them from Apple or Android with Windows no where to be seen. I use full blown applications for some really niche things like transcoding, messing around with AI, some graphical design stuff. None of that is mainstream.

In terms of Linux being ready, I think its ready for the people that think it is and it's not for the people who think it's not. The people who think its ready largely use it without issue. The people who don't think its ready will always have some crazy set up that can't be catered to because it's not mainstream enough.
 
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