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LG and others spying on you

are closed said:
That was a sarcasm-infused comment.
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Either way I could care less about spying. Have multiple LG Oled TV's in the house, and I'm not worried. Another overblown occurrence for the media to blow out of proportion.
 
Niner said:
Either way I could care less about spying. Have multiple LG Oled TV's in the house, and I'm not worried. Another overblown occurrence for the media to blow out of proportion.
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Well, it is mild inconvenience, knowing there is a third person in the room when you are arguing with your husband.
 
Niner said:
Either way I could care less about spying. Have multiple LG Oled TV's in the house, and I'm not worried. Another overblown occurrence for the media to blow out of proportion.
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I can't put myself in this mindset at all. Why would you willingly accept corporations spying on your private in-home activities? It's evidently more than just tracking what you watch...

Those who "could care less" (it's couldn't) are the reason they keep pushing the boundaries of what's acceptable and getting away with it.

I do not consent.
 
For one it’s not just the television spying on you. I don’t consent myself, but again if they want to hear about my wife’s and my days at our long hour jobs then oh well.
 
Senn said:
I can't put myself in this mindset at all. Why would you willingly accept corporations spying on your private in-home activities? It's evidently more than just tracking what you watch...

Those who "could care less" (it's couldn't) are the reason they keep pushing the boundaries of what's acceptable and getting away with it.

I do not consent.
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I don't like it, but realistically what can you do?

1."Don't connect it to the internet."
Then you won't be able to use any of the apps, and I think it still tries to connect to open wi-fi spots in order to send data anyway even if you don't manually connect it to the internet.

2. "Don't buy an LG TV."
As if any other brand DOESN'T spy on you? Instead of giving your data to LG, you'll just be giving it to Samsung/TCL/Hisense/etc instead.

3. "Don't buy a smart TV period."
Dumb TV's don't exist anymore, and large format monitors aren't quite on the same level.
 
MistaSparkul said:
I don't like it, but realistically what can you do?

1."Don't connect it to the internet."
Then you won't be able to use any of the apps, and I think it still tries to connect to open wi-fi spots in order to send data anyway even if you don't manually connect it to the internet.

2. "Don't buy an LG TV."
As if any other brand DOESN'T spy on you? Instead of giving your data to LG, you'll just be giving it to Samsung/TCL/Hisense/etc instead.

3. "Don't buy a smart TV period."
Dumb TV's don't exist anymore, and large format monitors aren't quite on the same level.
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Option 1 is my go-to because I don't care one bit for the apps. I use it as a "dumb" screen connected to a PC, all the "smart" platforms are just ad-ridden malware that endlessly collect data.

As for the connecting to open wi-fi spots, there aren't any open ones here and is there solid proof of TVs doing this? And if so, which ones? Genuine question because it's pretty serious if they're all doing this nonsense. I'm only using a pair of HDMI ports, nothing else.
 
Senn said:
Option 1 is my go-to because I don't care one bit for the apps. I use it as a "dumb" screen connected to a PC, all the "smart" platforms are just ad-ridden malware that endlessly collect data.

As for the connecting to open wi-fi spots, there aren't any open ones here and is there solid proof of TVs doing this? And if so, which ones? Genuine question because it's pretty serious if they're all doing this nonsense. I'm only using a pair of HDMI ports, nothing else.
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Not sure about the wi-fi thing honestly, the GN video is over 2 hours long so I didn't watch it, but that accusation keeps popping up on various forums. Not everyone has a PC to bypass the smart platform btw, and not everyone is willing to add another device to their setup to do all their TV things, they just want to be able to do their TV things on their TV. Picking up a Roku or Amazon firestick now just means you'll let them spy on you instead of LG.
 
pendragon1 said:
both of those could potentially be doing this too. maybe just less due to a lack of storage space. (both have voice input too)
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The roku could be, but it would probably be known if it did. The mic on the remote is supposedly push to talk. It's minimizing risk where I can, at least :).
 
are closed said:
Not doing anything illegal.
I have nothing to hide.
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"I have nothing to hide" is why your privacy is being stripped away more and more like the frog in the boiling water metaphor.

This is why I blacklist my TV from my WiFi router except to check for updates once in a while and use my Apple TV to stream everything. Roku definitely harvests data ... and Google and Amazon are ... well ... Google and Amazon. NVIDIA Shield was good but now NVIDIA is all into AI now.

LG's TV UI is a huge steaming pile of dookey anyway.
 
Shoganai said:
"I have nothing to hide" is why your privacy is being stripped away more and more like the frog in the boiling water metaphor.

This is why I blacklist my TV from my WiFi router except to check for updates once in a while and use my Apple TV to stream everything. Roku definitely harvests data ... and Google and Amazon are ... well ... Google and Amazon. NVIDIA Shield was good but now NVIDIA is all into AI now.

LG's TV UI is a huge steaming pile of dookey anyway.
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I liked LG UI tbh. Much better then the shit that is Tizen on Samsung. It was bad enough I brought a Google 4k streamer. I disconnected the Samsung OLED from the internet. Google already has all my info through my phone so wth. I still have a LG CX in my bedroom but I never use it.
 
vegeta535 said:
I liked LG UI tbh. Much better then the shit that is Tizen on Samsung. It was bad enough I brought a Google 4k streamer. I disconnected the Samsung OLED from the internet. Google already has all my info through my phone so wth. I still have a LG CX in my bedroom but I never use it.
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The Samsung UI makes me want to gouge out my eyes.
 
MistaSparkul said:
It's a valid option, but I don't see it being a realistic one for the vast majority of TV users. Roku/Apple TV or something like that is probably the best alternative at the moment since they don't record audio like you mentioned.
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Agreed. Apple TV is probably the best option at this point, but at least personally I'm waiting until they release a new version of that box as the current one is fairly old.

Using a PC for streaming services is absolutely a worse experience for some services. Some don't support e.g above 1080p resolution or HDR etc. They're deliberately gimped due to fears of piracy or something.

It's a tough situation because all the TV operating systems suck. LG has made WebOS so much worse with newer versions whereas the one on my CX is pretty good as it's out of the way and not full screen bollocks just to show you ads. Samsung's TizenOS is a huge pile of crap.

I have no idea how e.g Sony or Philips are in this regard. HiSense and TCL aren't offering much in my country so I'm not familiar with them.

Might be still best to just pick a TV with the image quality/features you like best and try to deal with its operating system.
 
are closed said:
Not doing anything illegal.
I have nothing to hide.
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I know this comment was in jest, but I used to feel this way about things. I have become quite jaded lately though.

What's illegal can change, and court of public opinion is becoming lynch mobs over wrong think so even legal private moments can ruin lives.

Data about how I use the device makes some sense and I could appreciate them using it to improve the experience, but the lack of transparency and massive terms of use for basically a display screen are concerning.

We can, at a minimum, continue to voice concerns and try to change the minds of those around us who seem blissfully unaware of the risks and slippery slope. Maybe one day, enough people will cry wolf for change to come about. Like flock cameras getting banned across the country.
 
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