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Playstation single player games will no longer be ported to PC

DukenukemX said:
If the console version comes out first then of course that's the version people will play. What game that was released on PC+console would heavily favor console in sales? Elden Ring sold more copies on PC then it did on PS5+Xbox. They do console first because they're milking people who would likely buy 2 copies. A PS5 and Xbox owner is more likely to buy a PC version later on than a PC gamer would who later on buy a console version.
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You really over estimating how many people double dip like that. You also completely ignore how they make 20 times more a week from console then they do PC. A few double dips dont make up the amount they make of MT.
 
stuffmonger said:
Something with bad keyboard and mouse controls like Crimson Desert?
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As it stands Crimson Desert has 50/50 sales on PC and console. So yea, no.
stuffmonger said:
Isn't that only 20% of Steam users?
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That's because Keyboard+Mouse is superior to gamepad. Even when the OG DarkSouls was released to PC with horrible KB+Mouse controls, I still preferred that over a gamepad. Also someone released a patch that not only helped fix the controls but enhanced the graphics. Then they released Dark Souls Remastered. Lots of games want you to use a gamepad, but obviously work better with keyboard+mouse. Look at Kingdom Come Deliverance II and lock picking. A breeze with KB+Mouse but a pain with a gamepad.


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vegeta535 said:
You really over estimating how many people double dip like that. You also completely ignore how they make 20 times more a week from console then they do PC. A few double dips dont make up the amount they make of MT.
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They make 20 times more because there's 20 times more sales because the games were released on console first. What other reason would they have to delay the release for PC?
 
DukenukemX said:
Sony lost their shit and won't make games on physical media after 2028.
https://blog.playstation.com/2026/0...-new-games-releasing-on-playstation-consoles/
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Well there goes the secondhand market unless the EU steps in and forces the ability to trade keys (I don’t see the USA defending consumers that way). I don’t think they’ll get the increase in sales they’re expecting by removing resale. People just won’t buy the game.

Of course they’ll get a nice bump from removing the middleman in new sales.
 
zehoo said:
Well there goes the secondhand market unless the EU steps in and forces the ability to trade keys (I don’t see the USA defending consumers that way). I don’t think they’ll get the increase in sales they’re expecting by removing resale. People just won’t buy the game.
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It's terrible how USA lets so many business get away with anti consumer practices. This is the last stage of technofeudalism.
Of course they’ll get a nice bump from removing the middleman in new sales.
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I believe that's the whole point. Physical media will generally go down in value faster than digital copies you can download. This is an easy way to maintain value.
vegeta535 said:
I was only a matter of time til someone pushed the button for no physical copies. Expect MS to follow shortly.
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I don't expect either consoles to survive for another generation. We pretend that physical media doesn't matter, until you find that one game that changed your life, then you want like 10 physical copies. What exactly separates game consoles from PC at this point? You're looking at the death of video game consoles.
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DukenukemX said:
What exactly separates game consoles from PC at this point?
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What separates a Mac from a PC from a unix station? Consoles only ever were specialized computers.

On PC digital releases have been declining to being non-existent since Steam released way back on '02/'03 - and PC gaming has only increased since.

This won't kill the consoles.

This is though probably about trying to reduce overhead/stop resales/squeeze very last drop of blood out of the money stone for them as the entire gaming industry across ecosystems, thus especially for a gaming only ecosystem, is in dire straits (also of their own doing, but whatever).
 
Wonder what the amount of sales of physical disc is compared to the digital format. Is getting rid of it really anti-consumer or has the consumer communicated that they no longer want that format? Probably the juice isn't worth the squeeze anymore getting discs made and distributed on top of retail stores wanting their 30%.

It sucks but I honestly expected it with seeing the popularity of digital game stores versus how many people step into a gamestop or best buy anymore.
 
Darunion said:
Wonder what the amount of sales of physical disc is compared to the digital format. Is getting rid of it really anti-consumer or has the consumer communicated that they no longer want that format? Probably the juice isn't worth the squeeze anymore getting discs made and distributed on top of retail stores wanting their 30%.

It sucks but I honestly expected it with seeing the popularity of digital game stores versus how many people step into a gamestop or best buy anymore.
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There’s nothing wrong with it going all digital, but this will remove your ability to resell your license like you used to be able to do with a physical copy.

edit* Just remembered that no physical copy means Sony can just delete the game from your account whenever they want. So there are issues with digital only. For instance, if Gabe ever left Valve, I'd immediately backup all the games in my library I care about.

Anyway this is getting off topic, someone should probably make a new thread.
 
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kram182 said:
What separates a Mac from a PC from a unix station?
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One can run Photoshop and the other can't. The point here is that both a PC and console can run games, except one does a lot more.
Consoles only ever were specialized computers.
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Also dirt cheap. People forget IBM Compatible PC's were well over a grand, while a SNES was like $150. I heard the PS6 will be $900, which also defeats the purpose of owning a console.
On PC digital releases have been declining to being non-existent since Steam released way back on '02/'03 - and PC gaming has only increased since.
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Yes but if consoles do what PC's do then why go console? I'd personally like to own a physical copy of games for PC as well. I do have physical copies of Doom and Final Fantasy 7 for PC.
This won't kill the consoles.
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Should be console as in plural because Xbox is already on life support.
This is though probably about trying to reduce overhead/stop resales/squeeze very last drop of blood out of the money stone for them as the entire gaming industry across ecosystems, thus especially for a gaming only ecosystem, is in dire straits (also of their own doing, but whatever).
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This is literally about squeezing blood from a stone. Blu-Ray discs aren't exactly expensive and aren't effected by the DRAM crisis. They are literally saving themselves 75¢, with the plastic box costing 25¢. This is just Sony pushing for their technofeudalism.
 
All I really have to say is that I bought a PS 3 Slim in 2013 I think, and bought a PS 5 pro used last year and a disc drive, this will undoubtedly be my last console I ever own. Maybe a Switch 2, but this is it for sony or microsoft.
 
Comixbooks said:
Yeah GameSpot is done can't stay in business with Switch games and just console sales.
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I can see them staying in business if they become big with 3rd party controllers and accessories. Lots of good 3rd party controllers coming out, lots of great mice, but hard to get a feel for them if you can't hold them before hand. They'd need to more or less transition fully to a store that sells good quality peripherals at a good price. I can see it working, even if more of a niche store. But for games they are done. Just Switch games left really and Nintendo seems to be wanting to do the same. They can likely save cost/space on the Switch 3 without physical games.
 
EBGames (what GameStop is branded as in my country) has pretty much become a toy store for anime/games merchandise, board games, Pokémon cards etc etc, that also happens to sell games PC accessories and consoles. Though I imagine there will probably some more downsizing if they don’t branch out even more.

They should probably think about making their own Steam Machine clone to sell. Break in early to SteamOS, and expand upon the Valve customisation thing by making their whole case easy to customise with kid’s favourite games/anime that you sell as extras. And they already have locations everywhere like Apple making it easy for someone to bring it in for a service if required.

Kids won’t have an entire back catalogue of Windows games/applications and will be the easiest to convert to SteamOS (excluding Valve fanboys).
 
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DukenukemX said:
Sony lost their shit and won't make games on physical media after 2028.
https://blog.playstation.com/2026/0...-new-games-releasing-on-playstation-consoles/
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A big reason I even owned any consoles is because I knew I could just sell it with all games at a relatively small loss. But with this change, if I were to sell a console I'd be stuck with a library of games that I can't play, can't sell, can't do anything with.

Prepare for PSN account trading to be the new trend, I guess.
 
I haven't purchased a physical game of any sort in 15 years, so I couldn't care less about this.
 
I have bought a handful of second hand physical games on this generation but only 1 or 2 new. I mean a single hand. I like the idea of being able to buy used games on the cheap, but honestly getting up and slapping a disc in is a chore and doesn't jibe with my PS Portal anyway. Also I seem to notice that I'll buy a game on the cheap, and then shortly after it shows up on PS Plus making it moot.

Now, movies? Yeah I still buy 4K UHD discs but how much longer? If the drive goes kaput on my PS5, I'm kinda hosed (although I mostly watch the digital versions that come with the physical copies, out of convenience).

I'm in no rush to buy a $1000 PS6, honestly the PS5 wasn't a gigantic upgrade over PS4 for me and I only bought it bc a friend needed cash and was selling. I've always said, the PS5 is the best PS4 ever! har har
 
I don't know why people are shocked. Physical ownership is nice, but discs are increasingly limiting... and more and more devs are treating hard copies as download codes in a box. Add the environmental impact and the cost of including a drive and it makes more sense to omit a disc drive than keep it.

The big challenge is preserving those older games as the drives go away. I'd like to see more options beyond "subscribe to PS Plus" (or Xbox Game Pass, or...) that include buying or even converting existing disc copies to digital versions, so you own them in some form.
 
Aurelius said:
I don't know why people are shocked. Physical ownership is nice, but discs are increasingly limiting... and more and more devs are treating hard copies as download codes in a box. Add the environmental impact and the cost of including a drive and it makes more sense to omit a disc drive than keep it.

The big challenge is preserving those older games as the drives go away. I'd like to see more options beyond "subscribe to PS Plus" (or Xbox Game Pass, or...) that include buying or even converting existing disc copies to digital versions, so you own them in some form.
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I don't see how you could convert physical games into digital without losing the physical disc. I doubt they care enough to give such an option.
 
vegeta535 said:
I don't see how you could convert physical games into digital without losing the physical disc. I doubt they care enough to give such an option.
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In theory you could get a unique identifier from the game copy or note that it was played in the past. Microsoft is reportedly testing a "Disc2Digital" feature that would do something similar, and even change based on where the disc goes (if you give the physical game to a friend, for instance). I hope Sony does something similar.

We also have to accept that, to some degree, we're not guaranteed to have access to every game forever. I've played more than a few ancient, obscure PC games that might never be released as-is on sites like GOG, let alone get compatibility updates or remasters. Some old games might only ever persist as "unofficial" copies, or as dusty boxes in people's basements.
 
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EA already had this option in Origin ages ago, I was able to add a bunch of my physical games to my digital library, and they can't do anything to prevent me from installing those games from the original discs on a compatible computer.
 
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