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Fox to Acquire Roku, Joining the Battle for the Living Room

I'm already looking for a replacement for my last Roku TV. The OS itself long ago went to shit and now it has far too many ads shoved in your face. Not to mention Roku devices talk to the mother ship more than any other device on my network. My Pi-hole's top blocked queries are always Roku garbage.

My primary Pi-hole
liberty.logs.roku.com 45%
scribe.logs.roku.com 20%

My secondary Pi-hole which has less overall traffic
liberty.logs.roku.com 83%
scribe.logs.roku.com 15%
 
Gross. Though I tend to just put an apple tv on them and keep the tv off the network, since it seems roku tvs end up with decent deals when I am looking for a new tv
 
I hope somebody remembered to check if BlackRock's algorithm will decide this Merger and/or Acquisition is a line-go-up one or just a regular effort to reduce consumer choice one.

Darunion said:
Gross. Though I tend to just put an apple tv on them and keep the tv off the network, since it seems roku tvs end up with decent deals when I am looking for a new tv
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After forever trying to find a streaming box that wasn't shit for my parents place, I gave up and bought them three Apple TV machines. The remote is moronic but the experience is light-years better than anything Roku or Android. A 78 and 81 year old found learning the Apple remote to be less obnoxious than the simple act of using AndroidTV.
 
Twisted Kidney said:
After forever trying to find a streaming box that wasn't shit for my parents place, I gave up and bought them three Apple TV machines. The remote is moronic but the experience is light-years better than anything Roku or Android. A 78 and 81 year old found learning the Apple remote to be less obnoxious than the simple act of using AndroidTV.
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Yea i think mine are 5 or 6 years old now, still much snappier and better experience than roku tv i got last year. I still have the touch remote which is stupid. And glass by the way as I learned when I dropped one on the basement floor lol.
 
THRESHIN said:
people still care about roku?
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Like it or not, yes. There are over 100 milliion households using it (as Roku put it in the PR), and it's one of the most popular choices in the US, in part because the platform is on legions of cheap TVs.

I'm reminded of how some Android fans are baffled that the iPhone is so popular; they forget that the criteria that matters to them isn't the same as what matters to most of the general public. An Apple TV or Google TV Streamer is often a better device, but they're both more expensive and won't register for people who just want a quick-and-cheap way to watch Netflix or Prime Video.

It's certainly fine to have devices aimed at enthusiasts and power users; we should just remember that they're not the ones driving the most sales.
 
Vermillion said:
I'm already looking for a replacement for my last Roku TV. The OS itself long ago went to shit and now it has far too many ads shoved in your face. Not to mention Roku devices talk to the mother ship more than any other device on my network. My Pi-hole's top blocked queries are always Roku garbage.

My primary Pi-hole
liberty.logs.roku.com 45%
scribe.logs.roku.com 20%

My secondary Pi-hole which has less overall traffic
liberty.logs.roku.com 83%
scribe.logs.roku.com 15%
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I agree, we have had our Roku ultra for a long time and its now terrible. The UI is buggy, navigation is slow and yeah ADs. I am looking forward to getting the new Apple TV when it comes out.
 
I had to look this up the other day because my first thought was Fox as in the "Disney (movie studio) Fox, that's kinda cool"... d'oh, stupid me. Yeah, this is "Fox" as in the shithole cable channel Fox 'news'. Blech.

THRESHIN said:
people still care about roku?
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Hah, not after this.

So I guess the best bet is to insert the Roku into my garbage can and pick up an Apple TV or Nvidia Shield Pro. Any opinions as to which one of those is any better than the other? Any other streaming boxes worthing looking at?
 
I was thinking about getting a Roku box because I hate the most recent update Samsung pushed to my OLED. I didn't like their OS to begin with and the update made changes for the worst.
 
SamuelL421 said:
I had to look this up the other day because my first thought was Fox as in the "Disney (movie studio) Fox, that's kinda cool"... d'oh, stupid me. Yeah, this is "Fox" as in the shithole cable channel Fox 'news'. Blech.


Hah, not after this.

So I guess the best bet is to insert the Roku into my garbage can and pick up an Apple TV or Nvidia Shield Pro. Any opinions as to which one of those is any better than the other? Any other streaming boxes worthing looking at?
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Apple TV (although if you can wait until a possible fall update, do). The Shield Pro is even older (2019!), and the general rule is that virtually every media service is available through Apple's box.

More importantly, Apple is clearly committed to its hardware while you can't say the same for Nvidia. I haven't even seen rumors of a new Shield.
 
THRESHIN said:
people still care about roku?
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Roku is a kick ass little box and is the most installed brand, beating every competitor by a substantial amount.

me i personally don't watch TV, but if i did i'd get a roku.

makes me wonder why they were so eager to sell, or the buyout offers were just too good to refuse?
 
Tengis said:
It works perfectly fine. I'm picking a Roku tv over the slew of other options built into TVs any day.

Standalone Roku devices are way faster than the devices built into TVs.
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'Anything' is better HW wise than built-in but even with built-in Roku is the market leader IIRC
 
SamuelL421 said:
So I guess the best bet is to insert the Roku into my garbage can and pick up an Apple TV or Nvidia Shield Pro. Any opinions as to which one of those is any better than the other? Any other streaming boxes worthing looking at?
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Apple TV is cool. SOmetimes/often the iOS versions of apps are better than the Android versions. The only problem is that Apple constantly wants you to re-login.
 
Tengis said:
It works perfectly fine. I'm picking a Roku tv over the slew of other options built into TVs any day.

Standalone Roku devices are way faster than the devices built into TVs.
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I hate that there is no easy way to script Roku button inputs
 
Aurelius said:
I suspect this will mainly involve prioritizing and promoting Fox services, but there is the concern that Fox is pulling a Paramount and trying to control a major media avenue so that differing political views are pushed out.
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I don't think that's it. Just like any company, they have to look towards future growth. The truth is that traditional channel media is going away; it will be replaced by timed release streaming, and news programs will be viewable online, either 100% for free (with ads) or exclusively through streaming platforms.

Fox is a brand, just like Disney, NBC, CNN, Paramount, HBO, etc. They have to grow in order to remain relevant. It has nothing to do with politics.
 
THRESHIN said:
people still care about roku?
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Why wouldn't they? It's only the biggest streaming box/hardware system out there. It's easy to use and makes accessing multiple different streaming services easy enough even the village idiot can use it. That's not even counting the default streaming channels included without even subscribing to anything.

The purchase makes a lot of sense as cable and broadcast has been slowly dying for years and neither the cable nor broadcasting stations have enough brain cells to rub together to stop the slide into irrelevance. It didn't have to be this way but most of the major players were morons who jumped onto the political and ideological bandwagons and effectively destroyed their news and entertainment products. The inability to control budgets knowing that they no longer would have the revenue to continue the same budgets is another negative. The inability to take risks and chances on something new and different and instead make or remake the same thing over and over is another nail in the coffin. Really, how many different versions of CSI does anyone really need? They also got addicted to the super cheap to make reality shows and pumped them out on an assembly line killing that golden goose through oversaturation and burned out the audiences.

The real negative is how this will lower the quality of Roku and eventually drive it into the ground. Fox will not let it continue to work as it currently does and will continually mess with it until it's little more than an ad for Fox stuff. This is an attempt at Fox trying to gain some marketshare in the streaming market and I expect it to fail.

The people who have no idea how to make cable and broadcast appealing will not do anything beneficial with a streaming box company. They'll try to run it the same as they do the cable and broadcast channels which is exactly how they have landed in the lousy position they are currently in. They will not learn.
 
madpistol said:
I don't think that's it. Just like any company, they have to look towards future growth. The truth is that traditional channel media is going away; it will be replaced by timed release streaming, and news programs will be viewable online, either 100% for free (with ads) or exclusively through streaming platforms.

Fox is a brand, just like Disney, NBC, CNN, Paramount, HBO, etc. They have to grow in order to remain relevant. It has nothing to do with politics.
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I think it's mostly business in this case — it's just easy to see Fox News being front and center, at least when you first start it up.
 
Axman said:
Doesn’t Disney own Fox?
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Disney bought 21st Century Fox, aka the movie and TV show business (think Alien, The Simpsons and beyond). Fox Corporation is still separate, and it's the one that runs Fox News, Fox Sports, and the like.
 
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