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Open Source Software to be Banned on 3D Printers and Other Maker Machines by Michael Bloomberg

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The "grassroots" organization, Everytown for Gun Safety, behind the ban on 3D printers and other maker devices such as CNC mills running Open Source software in the name of gun safety. Louis Rossmann investigated and followed the money trail behind the group that is influencing maker laws in states across the USA and found it to be heavily funded by billionaire and former NYC mayor Michael Bloomberg. Their objective is to kill Open Source software and have all machines that can create physical objects report back to the government to grant permission for what you want to create, and then log what you actually created. They will accomplish this with A.I. that identifies the object to be created and block the machine from operating if it looks "close enough" to a banned object. This will undoubtedly stifle innovation and cause machinery to become like the printer toner cartridge industry where consumers were forced to buy official expensive ink or a subscription to a service with approved government physical shapes and objects.

The links for more reading are found under the YouTube video.


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New York's 3D printer blocking technology mandate is a state law that, once its rules are written, will prohibit the sale or delivery of any 3D printer in New York unless the machine is equipped with blocking technology that refuses to run a print job until the file has been checked by a firearms-blueprint detection algorithm against a state-maintained library of gun blueprints.[1] The provision was enacted as Part C of the FY2026-2027 budget bill S. 9005-C / A. 10005-C, signed by Governor Kathy Hochul on May 27, 2026.[2][1] The device-sales requirement is not yet in force: it takes effect one year after the Division of Criminal Justice Services promulgates performance standards, which cannot happen until an expert working group reports, and a feasibility clause lets the working group defer the mandate if it finds the scanning technology is not technologically feasible.[1][3]


My thoughts...

My issue with the thing is that putting all the inventions from everyone on a few servers is just inviting bastions of democracy like North Korea, China, and Russia to have an all you can eat platter for hacking and stealing IP. Also why would an AI do the checking when the information an AI sees influences it permanently. Thus it would be asinine for the company running the checks to not use the information running through its servers to borrow ideas from the entire world for free. Just add it to the 100 page EULA on page 97 in small writing.

Since California and NYC are economies of scale, this will make all maker machines ship with this software installed as no manufacturer is going to run multiple separate assembly lines for open source and "locked down software." That's not economically feasible. I foresee the machine bricking itself if the user tries flashing open source software and air gap solutions sending end users to prison or eventually silently phoning home.

Maybe I'm too dystopian, but I learned when the DMCA was invented and everyone was apathetic to opening their mouths; look what happened. Try sharing a Kindle book with a colleague at work you really connected with. Then try sharing a paperback book you bought. Honestly what is the difference other than format? One will send you to jail if caught because you would have to defeat the DRM to accomplish it. I remember donating to many a legal fund for parents during the Napster era. So yeah it did happen.
 
You can file this under stupid people who think they know how technology works. The first problem is that they think they're cute when they can block open source. This the same problem with ID verification AKA, age verification because they think they have total control over the hardware. I'm going to use OnStar as an example because they did this 10 years ago by putting cameras inside cars and logging your driving, which they then sold the data to insurance companies, because of course they did. Ex engineer got into the system and now people know how to disable it. They're not going to block open source software. You can literally build your own 3D printer, as many people done. Building a gun with metal pipes is still a thing.

What's with idiots using AI to determine things? They're trying to do this with drunk driving by using a camera to watch you as you drive and then AI to determine if you're drunk. AI will make mistakes and do terrible things, but I believe this is what they want.

Also, fuck Michael Bloomberg. Of course it's a man in his 80's and of course he's a staunch Zionist. Every new law that breaks American privacy has a Zionist behind it lately.
 
The cool thing about 3d printers is they are very simple devices. Even if you couldn't replace the control/driver board with one that runs your choice of software (you can), you could also easily design and print your own 3d printer and replace the entire system if you wanted.

I forget where, but there are people who sell boards specifically for this and cnc already.
 
1_rick said:
He has money. He doesn't need to be literate to save you from yourself whether you want it or not.
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He can spend all the money in the world but what will inevitably happen is that people will just work around it. At some point, all this effort and work will come to an end when some guy finds a registry entry that disables it when you put a 0 instead of a 1. Or in the case of Linux, nobody giving a shit when making open source drivers for 3D printers.

Also, lets be honest because nobody is their right mind would use a 3D printer to make a gun. I can barely make parts that hold together when given a bit of pressure. Not when you can go to Home Depot and just spend $20 and build one based on the Unabomber design.

View: https://youtu.be/2zV7w3ZDGMg?si=_v_cXcqkJsGdBSAX
Nobu said:
The cool thing about 3d printers is they are very simple devices. Even if you couldn't replace the control/driver board with one that runs your choice of software (you can), you could also easily design and print your own 3d printer and replace the entire system if you wanted.

I forget where, but there are people who sell boards specifically for this and cnc already.
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3D printing is extremely simple, and cheaper than printing paper. I made this clip for my Audi A4's wiper blade because I didn't feel like spending $25 for a plastic clip. Printed it with ABS because Sun get hot. This is why they want to monitor what you print. Look at what Honda did when they found out people were 3D printing parts?
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View: https://youtu.be/iSZE2rs54CM?si=yopLglAeZMZXZvbU
 
Nobu said:
I forget where, but there are people who sell boards specifically for this and cnc already.
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All I had to do was flash the machine and use nautical themed software when I purchased a six axis for my inexpensive, casual hobby.

As soon as there's corporate gremlins in these things they will gut core functions with the power of enshitification and patent law. Or both, they kind of go hand-in-hand these days.

I've 3D printed intakes, gaskets, trim sections, vents, safety equipment, you name it. How long would these fuckers wait before they're preventing you from making custom parts for some old piece of equipment they don't want you to repair? Ai might be shit at making pretty much everything, but it's extremely good at oppressive, invasive surveillance and detecting data patterns. Is their little IP-Theft Gremlin going to loiter in a new 3D printer's firmware to see if I want to print an intake boot for an FD3 and stop me because of Mazda's patents? Would Mazda even need to be involved? Or would the software just work on a worst case metric, with false-positives effectively making your machines a fraction of what they should be. Kind of like the way YouTube polices intellectual property. I really do wonder how far these dirt bags can take this crap, the surveillance potential of Ai is horrifying.

We will work around this shit, at least current generations will, but it's the next generation and future generations that will really pay for this.. like always. Banning something isn't about making it vanish, it's about making it fade away.
 
Twisted Kidney said:
We will work around this shit, at least current generations will, but it's the next generation and future generations that will really pay for this.. like always. Banning something isn't about making it vanish, it's about making it fade away.
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The current generation of college grads is already paying/suffering a lot from AI.
 
DukenukemX said:
Also, lets be honest because nobody is their right mind would use a 3D printer to make a gun. I can barely make parts that hold together when given a bit of pressure. Not when you can go to Home Depot and just spend $20 and build one based on the Unabomber design.
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You don't 3D print the barrel or slide. You use rails to mount that stuff to the 3D printed frame. A 3D printed option is 1000x more reliable and accurate than the Home Depot route. Check out wind chime kits for example. Places like MAF Arms cater to the 3D printed market, and they're epic. The good thing about 3D printing is you have limitless accessories and designs. Don't quite like how your favorite firearm feels in your hand -- download the frame and tweak/test fit it until it feels perfect.
 
w1retap said:
You don't 3D print the barrel or slide. You use rails to mount that stuff to the 3D printed frame. A 3D printed option is 1000x more reliable and accurate than the Home Depot route. Check out wind chime kits for example. Places like MAF Arms cater to the 3D printed market, and they're epic. The good thing about 3D printing is you have limitless accessories and designs. Don't quite like how your favorite firearm feels in your hand -- download the frame and tweak/test fit it until it feels perfect.
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A few things on this. Firstly, if you're stuffing the gun with metal parts then how much of it needed to be 3D printed? The 3D printed parts are just plastic housing. Do you know how many methods there are to get that housing? 3D printing isn't even the best method, it's just the most accessible method. It's legal to make a gun so long as it's for personal use. Also, at the end of the day you can just go buy a gun.

I just don't see how this law is going to effect anything?


View: https://youtu.be/gR8KYgABLao?si=sEG-CN4CkXL7Y-5k


View: https://youtu.be/FAR7BbvcO-Y?si=kAyzLnSIvvquuCQp
 
Twisted Kidney said:
With 3D printers it's so easy to make blanks for sand casting, I think everyone should give it a shot. It's incredibly satisfying.

Actually 3D printing, in general, is probably the most important tool advancement in my life time.
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I thought about how you could make a mold for silicone parts... for science, of course. More for fishing lures or whatever to try and cheap out. Didn't think about sand casting. That's a hell of a great idea. :) May have to give that a try.
 
Axman said:
The part that the law recognizes as a firearm or is otherwise controlled. Most gun parts are considered consumable so it doesn't make sense to regulate them.
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Pretty much anything with a fire control assembly. In other words, it's the part that would house the hammer and trigger with springs. The p320/m17 from sig is basically just a trigger and sear. For ar15 clones it's the lower receiver. For bolt action rfiles its the bolt action. And this is a little weird because the FCA isn't serialized for bolt actions. Except that you can technically make ar15 rifles bolt actions. Mainly because there's no one single design.

But even basic rifled barrels are manufacturable at thins point.

Last but not least is the ENTIRE 2a regulatory framework is predicated on the commerce clause. The federal government only has enumerated powers and courts have held that the federal government can regulate the transfer of firearms as part of the commerce clause.

States can ban things, but the federal government can "unban".

Whole thing is stupid and literally impossible to regulate. Let Bloomberg waste his billions, it won't change anything at all.
 
If printing "insertables" make sure your seam is set to random to provide a more bumpy texture and not just a straight line which can be unpleasant.
 
Twisted Kidney said:
With 3D printers it's so easy to make blanks for sand casting, I think everyone should give it a shot. It's incredibly satisfying.

Actually 3D printing, in general, is probably the most important tool advancement in my life time.
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I've looked into casting for car parts because you can't possible find anymore. Plastic only works to a degree. Lets just say the Porsche 928 community isn't happy with all the 3D parts I've designed and shared. Turns out a number of people who visit rennlist are trying to get people to buy what little parts they have for sale. I'm also in the middle of trying to make a COSAM Sega Neptune housing for my console. I'm not paying $300 for a plastic shell.

3D printing has changed the game and Michael Bloomberg isn't after guns. Just like how age verification isn't for protecting children. If he's afraid for his wealthy elite to prevent another Luigi then this won't change a thing. After all, Luigi didn't 3D print a gun to do what he did. On the other hand, this could limit what parts people can print. Especially AI which is going to hallucinate in their favor.
 
DukenukemX said:
I've looked into casting for car parts because you can't possible find anymore. Plastic only works to a degree. Lets just say the Porsche 928 community isn't happy with all the 3D parts I've designed and shared. Turns out a number of people who visit rennlist are trying to get people to buy what little parts they have for sale. I'm also in the middle of trying to make a COSAM Sega Neptune housing for my console. I'm not paying $300 for a plastic shell.

3D printing has changed the game and Michael Bloomberg isn't after guns. Just like how age verification isn't for protecting children. If he's afraid for his wealthy elite to prevent another Luigi then this won't change a thing. After all, Luigi didn't 3D print a gun to do what he did. On the other hand, this could limit what parts people can print. Especially AI which is going to hallucinate in their favor.
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Next thing will be coming for 3D Scanners and limiting the parts they can scan. Want to scan that BMW part? Sorry, that's proprietary!
 
DukenukemX said:
I've looked into casting for car parts because you can't possible find anymore. Plastic only works to a degree. Lets just say the Porsche 928 community isn't happy with all the 3D parts I've designed and shared. Turns out a number of people who visit rennlist are trying to get people to buy what little parts they have for sale. I'm also in the middle of trying to make a COSAM Sega Neptune housing for my console. I'm not paying $300 for a plastic shell.

3D printing has changed the game and Michael Bloomberg isn't after guns. Just like how age verification isn't for protecting children. If he's afraid for his wealthy elite to prevent another Luigi then this won't change a thing. After all, Luigi didn't 3D print a gun to do what he did. On the other hand, this could limit what parts people can print. Especially AI which is going to hallucinate in their favor.
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I've had decent luck for simpler sand casts, but I had a six rotor manifold 3D printed and I am absolutely blown away by the result. I have to do some clean up on it for sure, but it's really solid quality. Way better than sintering was just a couple of years ago.

Casual. Inexpensive. Hobby.
 
Twisted Kidney said:
I've had decent luck for simpler sand casts, but I had a six rotor manifold 3D printed and I am absolutely blown away by the result. I have to do some clean up on it for sure, but it's really solid quality. Way better than sintering was just a couple of years ago.

Casual. Inexpensive. Hobby.
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Can't just drop that one, call it casual and not give us anything else. Have photos?
 
Twisted Kidney said:
I've had decent luck for simpler sand casts, but I had a six rotor manifold 3D printed and I am absolutely blown away by the result. I have to do some clean up on it for sure, but it's really solid quality. Way better than sintering was just a couple of years ago.

Casual. Inexpensive. Hobby.
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Ok, now this I gotta see. I haven't done anything that crazy, but I have made an elbow to help with the air flow in my 928. I printed it and haven't installed it yet. I think I tried and it didn't fit, but I haven't tried hard enough. Too many more important issues for me to tackle. I liked the idea of making my own plenum with a 3D printer because that big thing that says V8 4C 32V is a 90 degree turn and that's terrible for horsepower. Also, my 3D printer can't make anything that big.
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Ididar said:
Next thing will be coming for 3D Scanners and limiting the parts they can scan. Want to scan that BMW part? Sorry, that's proprietary!
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I want a 3D scanner so bad it hurts, it's very hard to find a reason to buy one for log homes.

Even harder to justify for my casual, inexpensive hobby.
Extra-Titanian said:
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Can't just drop that one, call it casual and not give us anything else. Have photos?
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Woah there, I don't even have studs yet, nor have I machined the housings and plates to take bigger studs. We're a long way from anything that can be assembled let alone run, and I'm in way over my head.

Honestly it makes me want to order one from Australia... but $120K(+) dollarydoos is pretty tough to justify when I don't even have a vehicle to put it in yet.


Anyway, we're derailing a thread.
 
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Twisted Kidney said:
I want a 3D scanner so bad it hurts, it's very hard to find a reason to buy one for log homes.

Even harder to justify for my casual, inexpensive hobby.

Woah there, I don't even have studs yet, nor have I machined the housings and plates to take bigger studs. We're a long way from anything that can be assembled let alone run, and I'm in way over my head.

Honestly it makes me want to order one from Australia... but $120K(+) dollarydoos is pretty tough to justify when I don't even have a vehicle to put it in yet.


Anyway, we're derailing a thread.
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Get a Leica RTC360. Can get certified use/demo units direct from Leica for like $26k right now with the launch of the new RTC300/500/700 this week.
 
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