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Brave Software releases Origin for a paid, bloat-free browsing experience

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"Today, Brave is announcing the release of Brave Origin, a paid version of the browser for users who don't need all of Brave's out-of-the-box features, but still want the privacy that only Brave offers," the company explains.

According to Brave, the browser turns off features such as Brave Rewards, Brave Wallet, Brave VPN promotions, Brave Leo AI, Brave News, Brave Talk, sponsored images, and other promotional or monetization components included in the standard browser.

This is absurdly idiotic. They're basically admitting their browser is now insanely bloated. It's easy to disable ... but wtf?
 
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I turned off those options years ago, so I don't get it.
I think it's the same people who ask for a "bloat free Windows" even though that stuff can be easily disabled too within 5 to 10 minutes of installing it. Maybe that's the market Brave is after?

EDIT: It's not even badly priced, so maybe one could view it as a convenience fee ;).
 
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Pricing is hefty in this case, but I rather like the principle of the old-fashioned true purchase of software without any monetization annoyances. If the company can be trusted to to not alter the deal after purchase and truly provide a life-time manure-free experience, that is.

Yes, it is not that hard to arrange for oneself but, nowadays, it requires some research to make sure you caught everything and, ultimately, does not provide peace of mind because the developer also has to eat.
 
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FYI it's 100% free on Linux. If anyone wants to support the company, here's a discount code for 30% off: BRAVE30
 
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/ne...in-for-a-paid-bloat-free-browsing-experience/



This is absurdly idiotic. They're basically admitting their browser is now insanely bloated. It's easy to disable ... but wtf?
I read it as: "We plan on adding data harvesting to the free tier of our Brave browser for machine learning purposes, so if privacy is important to you we now have a super awesome paid variant of our browser called Origin"...

Firefox with Ublock and some tweaks FTW.
 
I read it as: "We plan on adding data harvesting to the free tier of our Brave browser for machine learning purposes, so if privacy is important to you we now have a super awesome paid variant of our browser called Origin"...

Firefox with Ublock and some tweaks FTW.
That's literally not what they're saying.
 
Librewolf. There are so many alternatives to web browsers that paying for a stripped down version is asinine. There's even a script that does this to Brave itself. Brave Origin is for people who don't know.
It's for people who want to support the company and no other reason. It would only be asinine if they were paywalling features that the normal browser didn't have. But they aren't. This is just a donation browser. Brave and Firefox can both be easily stripped of nonsense. I don't like LibreWolf because I can't sync it to my phone. You can make the normal Firefox the same as LibreWolf quite quickly. I didn't know there was a Brave debloater. I already made one myself recently with AI.

And yet, they've done nothing as shady as stuffing privacy focused features behind a paywall.
You fundamentally have no idea what you're talking about. There isn't anything in this donation version that isn't in the normal version. They have exactly the same privacy features. One is just more slim and doesn't require any extra features to be disabled ... which again ... can be disabled in the normal version. Crypto isn't even on by default it has to be enabled. So even if you just used Brave as is, it's fine.
 
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You fundamentally have no idea what you're talking about.
And yet, fundamentally, we have this quote:

According to Brave, the browser turns off features such as Brave Rewards, Brave Wallet, Brave VPN promotions, Brave Leo AI, Brave News, Brave Talk, sponsored images, and other promotional or monetization components included in the standard browser.

So, in another three years when Brave force data harvesting on their free tier, I'll let you buy me a nice steak dinner at the local bar.

Linux users get Origin for free as we're awesome. (y)
 
And yet, fundamentally, we have this quote:
All things that you can turn off in the standard browser. I have them turned off right now.

So, in another three years when Brave force data harvesting on their free tier, I'll let you buy me a nice steak dinner at the local bar.
You're just talking out of your ass. Any "data harvesting" is done to improve the browser. They don't sell data to third parties. 80% of Mozilla's funding still comes from Google, which is still concerning. They're supposed to be the last bastion of hope for a Chromium alternative browser and yet they wouldn't exist without Google. And they've had plenty of actual data harvesting scandals in the last few years. Such as the Mr Robot spyware and feeding data to Meta / Facebook by default. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. They even made a statement about de-platforming people that don't follow their shitty ideologies, which received a ton of backlash. They've also rewritten their ToS many times, including recently, and have been called out for their hypocrisy.

Linux users get Origin for free as we're awesome. (y)
Yes I know. I already stated that above.
 
All things that you can turn off in the standard browser. I have them turned off right now.
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That's not what they're saying...Yet. They've got to apply lube first.

They're supposed to be the last bastion of hope for a Chromium alternative browser and yet they wouldn't exist without Google

They use Google as their default search engine, you can select another quite easily.

It's a browser, relax, you have options.
 
They use Google as their default search engine, you can select another quite easily.
That has literally nothing to do with what I said. 80% of their funding comes from Google. Changing the search engine doesn't change that.


It's a browser, relax, you have options.
I'm relaxed. I'm just pointing out the nonsense you're spouting.
 
That has literally nothing to do with what I said. 80% of their funding comes from Google. Changing the search engine doesn't change that.

And that funding is a result of Mozilla making Google the default search engine under FF. There's no data harvesting conspiracy here, even the Mr Robot saga was nothing more than a promotional game that in no way harvested user data, and Mozilla were quick to remove it as a result of user feedback.

I'm relaxed. I'm just pointing out the nonsense you're spouting.

Actually, you're totally on the defensive here - over a browser based on Chromium of all things...
 
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80% of Mozilla's funding still comes from Google, which is still concerning. They're supposed to be the last bastion of hope for a Chromium alternative browser and yet they wouldn't exist without Google.

Weird concern when Brave is built upon Chromium and literally couldn't exist without Google.
 
I turned off those options years ago, so I don't get it.
This, it takes like 1 minute after a clean install to turn that off....so now they want people to pay for a version where it is off, or not included at all....

I get it, Brave is likely looking for ways to monetize their product..
 
This, it takes like 1 minute after a clean install to turn that off....so now they want people to pay for a version where it is off, or not included at all....

I get it, Brave is likely looking for ways to monetize their product..
Yep, they aren't a charity.
 
Weird concern when Brave is built upon Chromium and literally couldn't exist without Google.
These claims are always questionable..

If Google never made Chromium, someone else would of created something that would of filled it's place, so sure, they may not of existed on Chromium, but I believe Brave on iOS is using Firefox as the underlying engine...
 
People decided web browsers needed to be free a long time ago.

Netscape Navigator (which eventually turned into Firefox) originally cost $50. Opera originally had a banner ad you had to pay money to remove and they eventually got rid of that.


I don't think the paid version is going to be good for them. It might hurt their reputation more than it is worth. Making people think they're getting spied on with the free one.
 
Neither company could. That's why this entire argument is silly.

Except one is built upon Chromium, of which Google is the primary driver, accounting for ~94% of all contributions with over 100,000 commits in 2004. While Mozilla receive a search royalty via Google for making Google the default search engine under Firefox.

https://blog.google/chromium/announcing-supporters-of-chromium-based/

With the exception of Manifest V3, which is backwards compatible with Manifest V2 and far less restrictive under FF and basically essential under any modern browser, Mozilla is 100% independent and not for profit. Yes, loosing Google's royalties would definitely be a problem in relation to the funding of Firefox, but Google has nothing to do with the development of Firefox whatsoever.
 
Brave is a silly web browser. It's Chromium with adblocker, which isn't special. You could also just use Vivaldi which is also a Chromium based browser that blocks ads by default. Opera is also a Chromium based browser that blocks ads by default. You can see this isn't something special, and I haven't even mentioned FireFox based browsers.
 
Brave is a silly web browser. It's Chromium with adblocker, which isn't special. You could also just use Vivaldi which is also a Chromium based browser that blocks ads by default. Opera is also a Chromium based browser that blocks ads by default. You can see this isn't something special, and I haven't even mentioned FireFox based browsers.
Thank you for sharing with us that you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
Thank you for sharing with us that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Well he does.

Brave is Chromium somewhat deGoogled, with a stack of privacy invasive bloatware added by Brave themselves that has to be stripped out before privacy can even be called a feature. Under Firefox, enhanced tracked protection is enabled by default - just disable telemetry data collection and enable encrypted DNS (you can even make use of the free VPN with 50GB of free data per month included by default for additional privacy), add uBlock Origin and possibly Font Fingerprint Defender, and you're basically good to go.

You can't really fully deGoogle a browser that's ~94% developed by Google.
 
Thanks all for the info, I usually spend 30 minutes on a fresh install turning just about everything OFF.
 
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