AMD’s next-gen Zen 5 X3D CPUs target September release (rumor)

criccio said:
About a minute and a half in and it was clearly just clickbait raging for views. Nothing new was going to be learned there
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I think his point was that there's barely any difference between the new X870E and previous X670E...if you already have the 670E then no real reason to wait for the 870E (unless WiFi 7 vs WiFi 6E is important to you)
 
polonyc2 said:
I think his point was that there's barely any difference between the new X870E and previous X670E...if you already have the 670E then no real reason to wait for the 870E (unless WiFi 7 vs WiFi 6E is important to you)
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Only other changes are an unknown amount of board level improvements to enable faster RAM and more motherboards having PCIe slot easy release buttons/toggles/switches/whatever.

The 870E boards will also have slightly less variability and flexibility in PCIe slot and Gen 5 m.2 configurations because now some of that connectivity is mandated to be locked into USB4.
 
polonyc2 said:
I think his point was that there's barely any difference between the new X870E and previous X670E...if you already have the 670E then no real reason to wait for the 870E (unless WiFi 7 vs WiFi 6E is important to you)
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This is accurate. The X870E Taichi and my X670E Taichi differ primarily in the addition of Wifi 7 and 5GbE, neither of which I have any use for. Other than that it just re-arranged some of the fan headers and 7-segment display (admittedly moving to the top right corner where you can actually see it with a GPU installed)

Same dual Prom 21 chipsets. Its essentially the same board.

This is all pretty par for the course given that they aren't even launching with Ryzen 9000 and will come later. Just a generational refresh of X670.
 
Rev. Night said:
So how them gen5 ssds turning out?

Crickets
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Essentially useless for most people.

Gen5 for storage will be useful is someone implements only x2 lanes per M.2 slot and then commonplace x2 Gen5 drives.

Plenty of speed and more lanes for other things freed up.
 
Rev. Night said:
So how them gen5 ssds turning out?

Crickets
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I wouldn't know. Mine got fried within days of buying one and I wasn't going to make a warranty claim on a drive with client protected data or replace it with a new one when the net price to me had gone back post-sale from $300 back to just under $600 at the time.

My SN850x 4TB is almost good enough.
 
Armenius said:
Probably true, but I can notice a difference in loading times between my SN850X and 970 Pro.
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Maybe you load stuff most people do not (and his the difference due to the higher max bandwith or the drive being better otherwise ?):


For example:
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Look at the gen3.0x4 970 evo plus versus the SN850-980Pro, if you do not go Optane hard to be 10% faster and that would have nothing to do with the max bandwith (slower on the 905p than the 970 evo).
 
LukeTbk said:
Maybe you load stuff most people do not (and his the difference due to the higher max bandwith or the drive being better otherwise ?):


For example:
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Look at the gen3.0x4 970 evo plus versus the SN850-980Pro, if you do not go Optane hard to be 10% faster and that would have nothing to do with the max bandwith (slower on the 905p than the 970 evo).
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That's an old as fuck optane drive too. I've got a couple dozen of the 4800X and the last release sitting around. The 905P was the first good one - but there are better.

I use them as game drives because WTF not.
 
lopoetve said:
That's an old as fuck optane drive too. I've got a couple dozen of the 4800X and the last release sitting around. The 905P was the first good one - but there are better.

I use them as game drives because WTF not.
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Option drives were expensive for a reason, their controllers were badass. They included all the optional features and punched well above their weight class.
 
lopoetve said:
but there are better.
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Yes but for what regular people do, how often the 905P max raw bandwith ever a significant issue.

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The PCI 5.0 reviews/benchmark of new drive will often not have any common scenario for common people showing a significant advantage of going above 8,000 mBs could be true, but that was already mostly true for the 4.0 drives before them (and I have 3 of them in this PC right now, if the 5.0 version ever get at a good price point I will still buy them even if their max bandwith is almost always useless to me would be my prediction)
 
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Lakados said:
Option drives were expensive for a reason, their controllers were badass. They included all the optional features and punched well above their weight class.
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Also can read/write simultaneously with no performance penalty, zero latency (or close to), etc. They're not consumer parts - but collecting them has been hehe fun.
 
LukeTbk said:
Yes but for what regular people do, how often the 905P max raw bandwith ever a significant issue.

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The PCI 5.0 reviews/benchmark of new drive will often not have any common scenario for common people showing a significant advantage of going above 8,000 mbs could be true, but that was already mostly true for the 4.0 drives before them (and I have 3 of them on this right now, if the 5.0 version ever get at a good price point I will still buy them even if their max bandwith is almost always useless to me would be my prediction)
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Oh totally - it's just funny that a second gen optane still spanks that much, never mind 3rd/4th.
 
Lakados said:
Intel sold the tech and the facilities that made it to SK Hynix, SK then spun it off as Solidigm.
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Someday soon we will have SoC with 64 gb of DRAM on package.

The motherboard memory slots will be used for some type of optane like persistent memory via CXL for people who actual need more memory then is on chip.
 
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