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I'm with ya OP. I like the 2400G. It's a great value. But where's a Ryzen 5 2600 + RX580 chip? A Ryzen 7 2700X + VEGA64? Make what people are going to pair up anyways and add value/reduce cost. I think it really does come down to sockets as someone mentioned. OEM's dont' want to deal with another, and AMD can't fit anymore than a 2400G into what they have at the moment as it is.
That would probably take a whole new form factor. How is all that supposed to fit on a chip? What about the Gddr? Or is it just using system ram, at those speeds that would seem to be a huge bottleneck.I'm with ya OP. I like the 2400G. It's a great value. But where's a Ryzen 5 2600 + RX580 chip? A Ryzen 7 2700X + VEGA64? Make what people are going to pair up anyways and add value/reduce cost. I think it really does come down to sockets as someone mentioned. OEM's dont' want to deal with another, and AMD can't fit anymore than a 2400G into what they have at the moment as it is.
When I build, I specifically avoid APU/IGP, even if the machine will only a basic computer. Even generations old basic video cards tend to work better for basic functions than integrated, some of which can be had for dirt cheap new or secondary market.
When I build, I specifically avoid APU/IGP, even if the machine will only a basic computer.
I mean, IGP's are not meant for power users, except maybe kabylake-g.
So, nothing but Xeons & non-APU Ryzens / Threadrippers for you, even if it is "only a basic computer"...?!?
Seeing as how the Kaby Lake G has dedicated memory for the Vega graphics portion of the package, is it really an APU, or a CPU with a dedicated GPU that just happens to be adjacent to the CPU...?
This is patently false.
'Generations old video cards' can easily have sub-par support for modern decoding in hardware that your average user actually cares about, while IGPs are generally kept up to date. This is doubly so if any encoding is involved.
It is patently true when all you need is basic video display with a good buffer. As I mentioned before, most people do not play games - only watching videos online, email, porn, general internet browsing, and the occasional .pdf/.doc/.xls document. A generations old video card will do the same thing.
My Phenom II with my old ATI 6850(2010 production) ran circles around my present company laptop I7-7700HQ in Bentley Microstation(CAD-E). That ATI card is now in my Plex/home server.
So, nothing but Xeons & non-APU Ryzens / Threadrippers for you, even if it is "only a basic computer"...?!?
Seeing as how the Kaby Lake G has dedicated memory for the Vega graphics portion of the package, is it really an APU, or a CPU with a dedicated GPU that just happens to be adjacent to the CPU...?
Given its it's a single package and the move to chiplets in general, I consider it an apu, but even if it's not the point stands - igp is fine for everything except higher end gaming and high performance computing, where discrete graphics do, and will for the foreseeable future, rule. 720p high quality is more than adequate for casual gaming, and amds apus pull that off without issue. Intel igp not so much, so AMD is fulfilling their promise.