I made a mistake going X99/2011-v3...

Archaea said:
If you are using that beasty 7820x primarily for gaming at nearly 4K resolution, sadly there has been little reason to upgrade since the I7-2600k.

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/05/26/definitive_amd_ryzen_7_realworld_gaming_guide/13

Kyle Thoughts:

4K Gaming

The Ryzen 7 was slower than our new Intel 7700K across the board today at 4K gaming resolution, however at no time was there an instance where it made our gaming experience any different than the 7700K. In our real-world gameplay we are talking about average framerate differences of less than 5%. In most cases the Ryzen 7 was right in line with the 2600K at 4.5GHz, and still these framerates are all jammed up very close together. Gaming at the high end of the resolution spectrum has been GPU-limited for as long as I recall, and it seems to be the same today. If you are gaming at 4K, I would suggest that you would never be able to differentiate the gaming experience on a Ryzen system at 4GHz, the 7700K at 5GHz, and the 2600K at 4.5GHz in a blind "taste test."
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This was not a gaming specific build. I was going for well rounded high performance. I actually upgraded from a 2700k.
 
kirbyrj said:
1.92V?!? You better buy a couple of them if you find them on sale as backups.

When I had my 7820x, I ran it at 1.25V tops.
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Budwise said:
That's gotta be a bug in CPUZ. No way he could run that voltage and still have a living chip.
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Budwise is correct. It is a CPU-z glitch. I run 1.285v at 4.8GHz. The chip is dellided. Here is the actual voltage and temps durring 12hrs of Prime95...

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kirbyrj said:
I just like playing with new things ;). But I kind of wonder if I'm going to feel the same way about ditching my 7820x. I should have just kept it.
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I like my 7820x.

I had a purpose built E3 Xeon before it that satisfied what I was doing, but workflow is more horizontal and less narrow/deep.

You can game on anything, throw a 1080ti in anything middling+ and crank your resolution up.
 
somebrains said:
I like my 7820x.

I had a purpose built E3 Xeon before it that satisfied what I was doing, but workflow is more horizontal and less narrow/deep.

You can game on anything, throw a 1080ti in anything middling+ and crank your resolution up.
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Same story here, had a 14 core Xeon, and I wouldn't upgrade until I could get both width AND depth in one upgrade.
 
Kaby lake x is EOL in a few months but Skylake X is not and they are releasing some refreshes so x299 will be here for a minute.
 
NovaCloud said:
ehhh.. I have trouble running mine at anything over 4.7GHz with a delid already done.. The temps aren't the problem.. I think its because I run it with quad ddr4-4000 ram... I hear there is stability issues with running really high speed ram..
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I run quad 3600, but I guess it could be the ram speed.
 
What I want to know is why the 6950x is still $1649. The 7900X is better in every way, same number of cores, and it's a little over $900. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

But after Spectre and Meltdown, I wouldn't even consider a Broadwell-E. I could probably live with 6 cores. An 8700k is tempting me.
 
Been debating selling my 6850k and x99 board to move over to a 2700x. No regrets on the x99 purchase, but man the AMD stuff is cheap.
 
The X99 platform is great and still holds a lot of value. Its just that they perform similar to Ryzen parts that are very cheap right now (with the Ryzen refresh pushing used original Ryzen prices down.) All things considered i'd rather have a X99 system (5820k/6800k) vs a Ryzen 1600.
 
Bumping really late, for my part it was a great choice...more having a 1080 ti and a 4K monitor that makes almost any CPU so far not that important for gaming for instance, while on the other hand never had to worry about lanes, quantity of RAM and stuff...the bad side mainly is: lack of Optane, iGPU (very useful when facing a GPU issue or when selling the GPU while deciding to upgrade) and Quick(sthg) for some adobe aplications....and of course those great threadrippers...

Still the other good bits? enjoying M2 pcie ex nvme, once multiple SSDs and benchamrks on pair of current mainstream best cpus...yet I've to say that I luckly upgraded pretty soon after my initial 5820K to a rare Xeon 2673 v3 since years for less than the price of a 5960x at that moment and putting my 5820K to lower the price, a great deal very soon made me enjoy an over the top platform for years ....this way I've obtained lots of lanes and 12 Cores since ages when those were pretty hefty and far from common. Plus, I now have my Xeon hacked in turbo mode all my cores at 3.0. and since it's low TDP I don't even need too much hassle to keep temps (and consumption) on check.

That kind of stuff and longevity became priceless BUT...I'm really wanting some change before it becomes to late to obtain some bucks with my current X99 system:

1. Ive bought a Fractal NANO and I'm really tempted to go the mini itx route...problem is that I'm not that sure to ditch now my current system with a 8700 or 2700 with such a similar perfomance, while loosing so many lanes, quad channel RAM, quantity of RAM etc...so I would maybe try an invest in the threadripper or even x299 route, but the first doesn't have any mini itx board and the second is too expensive for my taste...so I'm in some kind of a riddle of what to do...

2. Maybe is better to stay with my current X99 and search for anothe Xeon on a good price, but I guess that still are pretty costly, plus whjat is the best Xeon for X99?
 
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Bronson2018 said:
Bumping really late, for my part it was a great choice...more having a 1080 ti and a 4K monitor that makes almost any CPU so far not that important for gaming for instance, while on the other hand never had to worry about lanes, quantity of RAM and stuff...the bad side mainly is: lack of Optane, iGPU (very useful when facing a GPU issue or when selling the GPU while deciding to upgrade) and Quick(sthg) for some adobe aplications....and of course those great threadrippers...

Still the other good bits? enjoying M2 pcie ex nvme, once multiple SSDs and benchamrks on pair of current mainstream best cpus...yet I've to say that I luckly upgraded pretty soon after my initial 5820K to a rare Xeon 2673 v3 since years for less than the price of a 5960x at that moment and putting my 5820K to lower the price, a great deal very soon made me enjoy an over the top platform for years ....this way I've obtained lots of lanes and 12 Cores since ages when those were pretty hefty and far from common. Plus, I now have my Xeon hacked in turbo mode all my cores at 3.0. and since it's low TDP I don't even need too much hassle to keep temps (and consume) on check.

That kind of stuff and longevity became priceless BUT...I'm really wanting some change before it becomes to late to obtain some bucks with my current X99 system:

1. Ive bought a Fractal NANO and I'm really tempted to go the mini itx route...problem is that I'm not that sure to ditch now my current system with a 8700 or 2700 with such a similar perfomance, while loosing so many lanes, quad channel RAM, quantity of RAM etc...so I would maybe try an invest in the threadripper or even x299 route, but the first doesn't have any mini itx board and the second is too expensive for my taste...so I'm in some kind of a riddle of what to do...

2. Maybe is better to stay with my current X99 and search for anothe Xeon on a good price, but I guess that still are pretty costly, plus whjat is the ebst Xeon for X99?
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Not much reason, yet, to upgrade from what you currently have except boredom.
 
I bought mine in Aug 2015 and will not even consider upgrading for another couple of years. No regrets.
 
My main rig at home is a 5930K but I've built other rigs since - 2400G, 1700, 2700x - and to be honest in day to day use I can't notice any difference.between any of them. It really comes down to the storage and graphics to differentiate them via user experience for my particular workload / workflow. If I was doing video processing or machine learning or big databases or ... I'm sure things would be more obvious but if you aren't at the $$$ bleeding edge $$$, being in the fat middle of the curve is more the same, than different.

I was debating taking my 5930 rig apart and keeping the 2700x but since it has more PCIE lanes (which might be handy if I decide to keep my 2x Titan Xp setup), quad channel ram and 6 cores still works just fine. I think I may just replace the mobo (has one bad ram socket) with a spare and call it a day.
 
Do not regret buying my 5820k, great CPU. At the time I purchased it, the cost was less than the mainstream i7 and I got 6 cores vs. 4 with HT. Only recently gave it up when I migrated to the 8086 because I wanted to have one... MY2c.
 
I've looked at HEDT continuously, but I've had a hard time with the use case- more expensive boards, more memory slots to populate, for mostly the same end-user experience.

Hard to justify for so many things, though as I've been working on my homelab a bit, I've started to see cases where it would be helpful if not a solid requirement.
 
Archaea said:
Not much reason, yet, to upgrade from what you currently have except boredom.
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Yeap I know, but at the same time I really want a mini itx system....and right now? I can't have both rigs...so I dunno what to do...BTW anyone knows what is the best Xeon option fo an x99? I guess they are still pricey nope?
 
I was just checking the Xeons myself on ebay for my 5930k rig and yep, the xeon alternatives are still pricey ... unless you can get them from some corporate cleanout or upgrade or something. I know some places are moving to cloud services so there's always a shot.
 
dvsman said:
I was just checking the Xeons myself on ebay for my 5930k rig and yep, the xeon alternatives are still pricey ... unless you can get them from some corporate cleanout or upgrade or something. I know some places are moving to cloud services so there's always a shot.
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I see people here saying they got Xeons for 20 bucks and all.. how so?

I got some for that price for Socket 775 mods, but that was it. Anything past Nehalem the price goes way up.
 
You have to wait for the business lease cycle to end. Generally four or five years after the release date of the processor. That's where all these chips come from Off Lease machines that are parted out. When that happens there will be a lot of them available and the price will decrease significantly. By year six you will see them drop to the point of being $20 to $50 depending on the core count and speed.
 
If memory serves, the Xeon 2670 was the last big hurrah for Xeons flooding the market on the cheap a couple of years ago. Good value for the cores and speed for ~$70 at the bottom, iirc. They've gone up since then.
 
If I did not have a 8700k I would have easily gone for the 7820x, a CPU that does not get enough credit. Solid stuff especially on OC.
 
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