is there any program / way / script that will show me what is hanging at boot ?

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troyquigley

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my desktop takes 15 minutes to boot

I5 quad core cpu
16gb ram
ssd
nvidia gpu

i have gone thru all the services
full windows update with drivers
verified all the processes
ran SFC
cleared prefetch folder
did a clean boot via msconfig
cleared startup apps

nothing helped at all.

is there any way to diagnose what the problem actually is ?
 
Since you used MSCONFIG you are using Windows 7 perhaps? I would run a test on the HDD to be safe. It could be the drive failing or have bad sectors in the areas it needs while booting. When did it start? You could try a Windows Restore Point to a time when it booted fine to see if a new program or driver update is causing Windows to boot slowly.
 
yeah os and a little more background info could help. disconnect anything and everything that isn't essential.
 
oh....sorry
windows 10 1803
benched the ssd and it was running as intended

msconfig is also in w10

the problem i have the same issue with 2 different desktops, and have different specs.

i did the clean boot (minimum drivers and services) - which did not help.

wondering if it is a group policy issue - not sure how to log how long a GP takes to finish
 
troyquigley said:
oh....sorry
windows 10 1803
benched the ssd and it was running as intended

msconfig is also in w10

the problem i have the same issue with 2 different desktops, and have different specs.

i did the clean boot (minimum drivers and services) - which did not help.

wondering if it is a group policy issue - not sure how to log how long a GP takes to finish
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Disconnect all external peripherals, except mouse and keyboard, as mentioned by pen.

If two systems are having the same issue there has to be a common problem. Maybe a network issue? Unplug everything but mouse and keyboard and try again.
 
do you have an aggressive A/V package? ive seen some still loading in the background in safe mode...
 
troyquigley said:
oh....sorry
msconfig is also in w10
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True for services but for startup programs, msconfig just links to task manager as that is where disabling startup items has moved.

auntjemima said:
Disconnect all external peripherals, except mouse and keyboard, as mentioned by pen.

If two systems are having the same issue there has to be a common problem. Maybe a network issue? Unplug everything but mouse and keyboard and try again.
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This... maybe even unplug the keyboard and mouse honestly. When you say "to boot" do you mean to the login screen or does it boot to login fast and then 15 mins for the desktop? If its 15 mins only after you login then you will need the keyboard to login. If its happening on both PCs it could be a network issue if they are on a domain or something. If they boot fast when not connected to the network and slow when connected and it is a domain, that certainly could be an issue as you mention with group policy.
 
does it do it in safe mode? if not - start disabling startup, services, if safe mode start is slow - chkdsk,
 
The last time I remember running into a problem like this it was due to an NIC. It used to be somewhat common to have really long boot times if you had NICs in a machine and no ethernet cable attached. I have no clue if this is still a problem at all but in days past Windows would sometimes sit there for what seemed like forever looking for a network signal which would never come since the NIC wasn't plugged into anything. This was also back in the days when you had to have an add-in NIC and either plugging the NIC to a network or removing the NIC took care of the problem.
 
Try completely uninstalling your antivirus and see if the boot time returns to normal. Windows 10 boots in 30 seconds even with a slow hdd.
 
Mazzspeed said:
This is a process that is actually 'far' easier under Linux, however monitoring the boot process is entirely possible under Windows using the Process Monitor Tool:

https://www.msigeek.com/6231/how-to-enable-system-boot-time-logging-using-process-monitor-tool
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This is definitely where my knowledge was lacking. Linux boot issue? I can help you out. For something like this, this is what I needed to know for anytime I run in to Windows issues. Although, it won't be often with as much as I can do on Linux...
 
I am gonna disconnect everything and boot
If that does not work
I will uninstall webroot

crosses fingers
 
Ok.

I unplugged everything (including network and keyboard/mouse) = boot was 15 minutes

I disabled wifi and bluetooth via bios = boot was 15 minutes

safe mode = boot was 15 minutes

uninstalled WEBROOT = boot was 15 minutes

i have found no reason why it is taking 15 minutes to just get to the login screen...
 
One option is power supply failing -> leading to multiple errors during boot from dirty power.
 
troyquigley said:
Ok.

I unplugged everything (including network and keyboard/mouse) = boot was 15 minutes

I disabled wifi and bluetooth via bios = boot was 15 minutes

safe mode = boot was 15 minutes

uninstalled WEBROOT = boot was 15 minutes

i have found no reason why it is taking 15 minutes to just get to the login screen...
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If you do not have anything important that precludes you from doing everything from scratch, backup your data and redo from scratch. Let us know if the install process went quickly or if it took a long time as well.
 
OK.
I ran "procmon.exe"
had it create the boot logging file.
rebooted and looked at the log

i rebooted at 12:29 - the login screen appeared at 12:44

the log did not show entries before 12:44
it does not show anything from 12:29 - 12:44

what in the world did i do wrong ?
 
grab a spare hdd and do a fresh install on one of them. disconnect everything but the essentials. see how it acts.
 
troyquigley said:
OK.
I ran "procmon.exe"
had it create the boot logging file.
rebooted and looked at the log

i rebooted at 12:29 - the login screen appeared at 12:44

the log did not show entries before 12:44
it does not show anything from 12:29 - 12:44

what in the world did i do wrong ?
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It probably means that your boot process hangs at hardware detection before Windows even loads. You have a broken computer.
 
process monitor (procmon.exe)
shows the computer at "idle" for 14 minutes.
it shows absolutely nothing is happening for 14 minutes, according to process monitor using boot logging.
 
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