Intel Teases Threadripper Challenger and 5GHz 6-Core at Computex

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Charlie Demerjian has dutiflee posted Intel's entire teaser PR from Computex outlining its upcoming 6-core 5GHz CPU that it is pushing as its 50th anniversary processor. Intel also teased an upcoming LGA3647 28-core 5GHz monster as well to put against AMD's Threadripper coming up in Q4 of this year. Intel has a page up as well that outlines its new 8th Gen Intel® Core™ i7 8086k Limited Edition Processor challenger. Amazing what Intel can do for the consumer when it has a bit of competition. You can get a chance to win one as well, and it even has some of your favorite YouTubers shilling for the product as well. Here are the good bits.

What is the 8th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-8086k Limited Edition processor?
To celebrate the anniversary of 40 years of x86 processor architecture, Intel is releasing a limited edition processor, which will be available in limited quantities and for a limited time.

What’s so special about this processor?
This processor is Intel’s first 5Ghz out of the box consumer desktop processor, featuring 6 cores and 12 threads, and is unlocked for overclocking*. The product will come in special commemorative packaging celebrating this special anniversary.

Intel's New 28 Core Monster 5GHz Desktop Processor Is Most Powerful Ever
Intel has revealed what could be a major challenge to AMD's Threadripper 2 processors in the form of its most powerful desktop CPU ever. The yet unnamed CPU was revealed at the Computex trade show in Taiwan and during the presentation, the CPU appears to be able to sit at a massive 5GHz across all cores too and is due for release in Q4 this year.

28 Core Shown off here.

 
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Wonder what they had to cut to get 28 cores at 5GHz...what alternative tech they're using in place of speculative execution, if any. I'm thinking slightly reduced IPC, and trimmed the extensions a bit. Should still be a killer cpu, regardless...with a killer price to match.
 
Don't worry guys, Intel went back to the Pentium 4 arch and was finally able to reach 5Ghz due to the smaller process.

Remember when they said they would release a 4Ghz P4? Well.. they went above and beyond after all these years and got 5Ghz.
 
My wallent isn't ready, but hey.. that's what credit cards are for. XD
 
But is Meltdown/Spectre fixed for these chips? if no its a hard pass for me, I already have one of those things in my PC until they fix that ill wait or go with AMD.
Funny how all of the sudden you are getting a massive jump in (on paper) performance in the next iteration of chips when they took a beating for the last few months with competition and flaws marring their bottom line.
 
I liked the 'shilling' part.. it's almost like he's implying something.. :p
 
Nobu said:
Wonder what they had to cut to get 28 cores at 5GHz...what alternative tech they're using in place of speculative execution, if any. I'm thinking slightly reduced IPC, and trimmed the extensions a bit. Should still be a killer cpu, regardless...with a killer price to match.
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Hey guys look at our fancy new 28 core 5Ghz processor.. it's going to kick threadrippers ass, as long as you only run single threaded applications on this 6k dollar processor.. they couldn't even get 3Ghz out of the 18 core processor, there's no way in hell they're getting 5Ghz out of a 28 core processor. i'd be surprised if they can even hit 5Ghz on a single thread.
 
SCSI-Terminator said:
Probably just 14 cores with hyper threading. Just sayin.
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Already been a few lawsuits about core/module conflation, I doubt Intel makes that mistake here with threads. Not saying they're equivalent to current intel threads, but I doubt they're being ambiguous/misleading in that way here.
 
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Nobu said:
Wonder what they had to cut to get 28 cores at 5GHz...what alternative tech they're using in place of speculative execution, if any. I'm thinking slightly reduced IPC, and trimmed the extensions a bit. Should still be a killer cpu, regardless...with a killer price to match.
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Or it gets delayed indefinitely like so many other "too good to be true" Intel products
 
Put a link to the keynote above at the 28 CORE mark.
 
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brucethemoose said:
I'd say this is an EPYC refresh competitor more than a Threadripper one.

For all we know, AMD could push a mobo vendor to release a "consumer" EPYC refresh board as a response (which would be amazing). Or maybe that's what Intel is responding to.



The "5ghz" thing was an overclock. They probably just ran it at 400W, which a big AIO like the one in the demo can handle.
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Intel already has 24 core CPUs for enterprise. https://hardforum.com/threads/feast...60-and-what-it-does-to-cinebench-r15.1960823/

I would suggest this is very much about the HEDT space.
 
7334 for the Intel 24-Core at 5GHz on Cinebench. Our 1950X Threadripper 16-Core at 4GHz did 3469. So if you just look at it per core, that is 306 pts per core for Intel and 216 pts for AMD.

Given that we are seeing this from Intel, I would not doubt that we see a 32-core Threadripper from AMD this year. Just a guess.
 
So Skylake X with 14 cores has an overclock that tops out in the mid 4.5GHz range and despite all the design/production problems Intel has been having the new chip based supposedly a near identical architecture but with twice as many cores is going to run at 5 GHz across all the cores? Consider me skeptical.

At least the contest is giving out 2,086 cpus stateside.

Would a 32 core Threadripper be essentially an Epyc chip on HEDT, with all modules being chips rather than two chips and two spacers?
 
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Teenyman45 said:
So Skylake X with 14 cores has an overclock that tops out in the mid 4.5GHz range and despite all the design/production problems Intel has been having the new chip based supposedly a near identical architecture but with twice as many cores is going to run at 5 GHz across all the cores? Consider me skeptical.
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All you need is glue ;) .
 
Teenyman45 said:
So Skylake X with 14 cores has an overclock that tops out in the mid 4.5GHz range and despite all the design/production problems Intel has been having the new chip based supposedly a near identical architecture but with twice as many cores is going to run at 5 GHz across all the cores? Consider me skeptical.
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Remember that Threadripper is basically 4 chips under a single heat spreader. Intel could do something similar, and put a lot of cores in a single "chip"
 
cyclone3d said:
Don't worry guys, Intel went back to the Pentium 4 arch and was finally able to reach 5Ghz due to the smaller process.

Remember when they said they would release a 4Ghz P4? Well.. they went above and beyond after all these years and got 5Ghz.
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Intel originally promised that we would eventually see 10 GHz and beyond on the NetBurst architecture. Sure, if you make the pipeline long enough, feed it enough power, deal with the power leakage, and cool it efficiently. Ah, the speed wars were fun times.
 
I'll for sure enter to win that 8086K processor. Would probably be the only way I get to upgrade a system with my current budget. Though I will still feel a bit missing out on only having 6 cores, instead of 8!
 
It's not a competitor if it's going to cost $3k-$6k + DLC Codes. I am willing to buy a Threadripper 2 and upgrade my CPU since it's the same socket even if it's slower that Intel's, but I won't be buying a $4k processor from Intel that probably has like 16 PCI-E lanes with a special "unlock code" to actually use all the features lol.
 
tangoseal said:
Well ....AMD has built the threadripper so they can just snap...er... glue... Some more CCXs together in a whim. 32 cores is already probably being made right now at the fab.
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Would probably need to go 8 channel memory though to make that happen on desktop, which would mean X499 chipset this year.
 
As far as the Core i7 8086k goes, that's nothing but a special badge. My 8700k does all cores at 5GHz easily, and I haven't even delidded it. They probably haven't even changed the TIM inside it.

That 28 core "monster" chip is probably 3.2GHz with a one core turbo of 5GHz. Not a big deal there, either.

Intel has been unimpressive for many years now. They're too arrogant to move forward too much. They got caught flatfooted last year with the release of Ryzen, but they still haven't taken that competition seriously enough yet. They're putting out half-assed efforts, and charging too much for them. With the rumors that the TSMC 7nm process could take the next gen Zen up to 5GHz and that Ryzen 3 dies will have 12 to 16 cores each, AMD could very well have a Threadripper with 32 cores at 5GHz before Intel manages to release that "monster" chip, and likely have more PCIe lanes and cost half as much as the Intel competition.
 
Did I read that the 5GHz is only single core? Jeeze. Do better.
 
sirmonkey1985 said:
Hey guys look at our fancy new 28 core 5Ghz processor.. it's going to kick threadrippers ass, as long as you only run single threaded applications on this 6k dollar processor.. they couldn't even get 3Ghz out of the 18 core processor, there's no way in hell they're getting 5Ghz out of a 28 core processor. i'd be surprised if they can even hit 5Ghz on a single thread.
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SCSI-Terminator said:
Probably just 14 cores with hyper threading. Just sayin.
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If this this really can sustain 5 Ghz across 28C/56T on air and isn't crazy expensive, $2k max, it should be a hit in HEDT space. Also would be nice for it to be fully patched against Meltdown/Spectre.
 
Does it have 2 intel chips glued together? if this is just a single die it would instantly melt itself at 14 nm.
 
Typical.
If I get one of these it will cut short the fun of my NCore V1 arriving in August.

Then again, it might fit ...
 
Master_shake_ said:
I'm sure the price will sink this CPU.

Intel will price it like they're still in a one horse race.
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While the first line is correct 2nd is incorrect.
Intel will price it with low margins.

AMD Threadripper 16 core is exactly 2x cost of an ryzen 8 core.
an Intel 12 core is not 2x the cost of an 6 core, it's way way way higher due to the large die size.

The price is gonna be the one sinking it, and it's not cause Intel is greedy, it's cause they cannot sell it for less....
 
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